I would still put your dom as what leads you which seems like introverted perception followed by Ti even if going by time under tension puts Ti in the lead. or as a 4 letter dichotomy stick with ISTx. if someone cares to ask you can just explain that your really middle of the road. Its your call though what you decide.They all have merit. Its just a preference of whats more important...dom or time under tension. time under tension if you don't control life can and will change since its not your dom. Change it when time under tension changes if you choose Ti+Si+Se. A lot of ISTJs I know have a very high Se, as time goes on it is known to dwindle down lower....time under tension...and a more mature and stable Fi will rear its head.
OK. Why do you think I lead with Pi? I really want to hear some logical reasoning for this one or at least provide me the data that made you see that/describe your impression or whatever.
Why not Ti > Si, why Si > Ti, essentially, as I did give you both TP and TJ aspects about myself?
Of course it is my call to decide on this, this is a no brainer.
What do you mean by "dom or time under tension"? I'm again not following there as you again went a bit too random in wording your stuff. I don't mind, it's just real hard to follow. Note I'm not a native speaker of English. Maybe that also gets in the way...? I focus on grammar a bit more in this language than in my own native language. (Tho' I'm pretty oriented towards it in my first language too)
I do figure you are trying to say something like, ISTJ would spend more time with Ti under stress? But you talked about some change stuff too, what was that? I couldn't decipher that part
What does this high Se for ISTJs look like? I don't think my Se dwindled down over time. It's still the same as when I was a kid.
When does their Fi come out first? At what age usually? 'Cuz I cannot see a trace of Fi in myself and I'm not exactly a teenager. Though I'm not old either, no I'm past 25 a bit.
Hmm. So ISTJ or ISTP. That is easier to distinguish!
My mother is an ISTJ (e1) So was an ex (3 years together). ISTJ's are lead sensors, so they often have really good ability with hands-on things, sports, etc.
Yeah it's one of those two, I suppose, no need to overcomplicate it with other options that I've basically excluded.
Their stereotypes/profiles are some of the saddest, IMO. I met my ex because at a birthday party for a mutual friend he, not knowing me, approached and placed icing on my cheek and then licked it off.
Just saying.
What, lol, was he/she drunk?
Not boring. Any reason why you haven't entertained ISTJ?
It's annoying to read the bullshit on liking traditions and whatever peaceful crap. I couldn't give a flying fuck about that peaceful orientation thing. I don't revere authority either, I am my own authority.
Lol but seriously, I just cannot relate to any of that in the ISTJ descriptions. I do relate to some Jish things including ability to stick to some commitments. Some. I can get irresponsible in smaller things.
I also cannot relate to the part where it says ISTJs readily absorb unconnected facts being listed. No, I have to first link them. I cannot absorb them to actually remember them in any other way. My mind just does not take them in as separate facts. Maybe unconsciously it can do it somewhat as I do surprise myself with automatic recall of facts here and there where the context calls for it, so this is a highly context dependent recall of them. But, I do prefer to understand them, not just rote learning of them. Again, in a conscious fashion I just cannot learn facts without first linking them together in an understanding.
Si and Ti are easy to figure. Have you looked into these functions? This would help with your J/P dilemma
I don't get the idea on Si tbh. Isn't it supposed to be a perceptual function? Descriptions are full of things that sound like jungian Rationality, that is, actually
judging things internally, like, strict organization and categorization of details. Not simply perceiving them but actually going into the trouble of processing them in a Rational way, making *distinct* judgments. It does not seem to simply "flow" on its own like perceptions do. Or maybe I misunderstand something there...
More importantly, a core concept about Si seems to be that it's about collections of impressions. That does seem to be irrational/perceptual, not rationality/judging. But, I don't seem to be doing this in a conscious fashion or I haven't noticed. I don't ever consciously reason "I experienced this in the past and this is now different from that". I can notice if something changed if say, an object is in a different location than before. Or a different object is there, with different colour, shape, etc... But that's about it I think.
OK, now, out of curiosity - give me your definition and/or description on how you live your own Ti.
Yeah, I don't like ISTJ descriptions and I don't like some ISTP ones either. I think the ISTP ones make us bigger and more badass then we really are. And I think that ISTJ ones make them more boring then they really are. Its the whole...dom Ti means the person is this way with other people...no it means they are this way with themselves internally. How they are with others is a combination or nature and nurture and experience
Hm, I think ESTP is made to sound a lot more badass tbh. :shrug
ISTP descriptions seem realistic, somehow. To me anyway. I can see where it tries to go overboard but I can still fit those parts into reality in the correctly modified way (made more realistic easily). Whatever that means.
As for the Ti-dom being whatever way internally. I do think the ISTP descriptions describe ISTP from a POV that's too external, not written by an ISTP, just by someone who observed them. Hardly anything is noted about how things truly work internally for them. (Or for other types, either, I think)
I did read the Lenore Thomson descriptions of ISTP and ISTJ and those do attempt to show the things going on internally in the mind, that is nice, but the interpretations she gives are weird to me. I think her main tenet of linking functions to either the right or the left brain hemisphere is fundamentally flawed so her reasoning is also flawed.
