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    I think one of the best ways to find your socionics type is to find which quadra you identify with most. ISFp(MBTI ISFJ) and ESFj are both Alpha Quadra and value Fe/Si/Ne/Ti. Beta Quadra, which includes ENFj values Fe/Se/Ti/Ni.
    Alpha- Alpha Quadra - Wikisocion
    Beta- Beta Quadra - Wikisocion

    Also, if you are ENFj, your dual is ISTj(MBTI ISTP). If you are ESFj, your dual is INTj(MBTI INTP) and ISFp's (MBTI ISFJ) dual is ENTp. These are supposed to be the best relationships.

    ENFj is Ti seeking
    ESFj is Ti seeking
    ISFp is Ne seeking

    Also, ENFj is Si PoLR, ESFj is Ni PoLR, and ISFp is Te PoLR. Point of least resistance, or your weakest area.

    P in Socionics= irrationality
    J= Rationality

    You can also decide which you identify with most here: Rationality and irrationality - Wikisocion

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    Also, I must add, some disagree with the j/p switch.
    J/P switch - Wikisocion

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    @Cygnus: Parts of both resonate with me, but overall the second one clicks with me more, I think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violet Rose View Post
    I think one of the best ways to find your socionics type is to find which quadra you identify with most. ISFp(MBTI ISFJ) and ESFj are both Alpha Quadra and value Fe/Si/Ne/Ti. Beta Quadra, which includes ENFj values Fe/Se/Ti/Ni.
    Alpha- Alpha Quadra - Wikisocion
    Beta- Beta Quadra - Wikisocion

    Also, if you are ENFj, your dual is ISTj(MBTI ISTP). If you are ESFj, your dual is INTj(MBTI INTP) and ISFp's (MBTI ISFJ) dual is ENTp. These are supposed to be the best relationships.

    ENFj is Ti seeking
    ESFj is Ti seeking
    ISFp is Ne seeking

    Also, ENFj is Si PoLR, ESFj is Ni PoLR, and ISFp is Te PoLR. Point of least resistance, or your weakest area.

    P in Socionics= irrationality
    J= Rationality

    You can also decide which you identify with most here: Rationality and irrationality - Wikisocion
    I definitely would be the J. Also, I'd say I identify more with the Alpha Quadra using the reading you provided.
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    Also, I must add, some disagree with the j/p switch.
    J/P switch - Wikisocion
    Why must everything be complicated lol
    Thanks for sharing this. I've got some reading to do

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    Junior Member Violet Rose's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21lux View Post
    @Cygnus: Parts of both resonate with me, but overall the second one clicks with me more, I think.



    I definitely would be the J. Also, I'd say I identify more with the Alpha Quadra using the reading you provided.


    Why must everything be complicated lol
    Thanks for sharing this. I've got some reading to do
    No problem! You seemed to me more Alpha from your posts in your thread. If you do find yourself having a problem deciding between the two Alpha SF's, ESFj (ESE) or ISFp (SEI), or considering something else, you can always go by temperament, too. But if you identify with rational and Alpha, you are probably ESFj or ESFJ.

    ESFj-
    EJ temperament - Wikisocion

    ISFp-
    IP temperament - Wikisocion

    Also, there is Reinin Dichotomies to help distinguish the difference between types. The Alpha SF's have quite a few differences in Dichotomies.

    Dichotomies - Wikisocion

    •SEI
    ISFp
    carefree*
    yielding*
    dynamic
    democratic
    strategic*
    emotivist*
    negativist *
    judicious
    merry
    process*
    declaring

    •ESE
    ESFj
    farsighted*
    obstinate*
    dynamic
    democratic
    tactical*
    constructivist*
    positivist*
    judicious
    merry
    result*
    declaring

    Reinin Dichotomies 'test' (might make things easier):
    Sociotypograph — determine sociotype
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violet Rose View Post
    No problem! You seemed to me more Alpha from your posts in your thread. If you do find yourself having a problem deciding between the two Alpha SF's, ESFj (ESE) or ISFp (SEI), or considering something else, you can always go by temperament, too. But if you identify with rational and Alpha, you are probably ESFj or ESFJ.

    ESFj-
    EJ temperament - Wikisocion

    ISFp-
    IP temperament - Wikisocion

    Also, there is Reinin Dichotomies to help distinguish the difference between types. The Alpha SF's have quite a few differences in Dichotomies.

    Dichotomies - Wikisocion

    •SEI
    ISFp
    carefree*
    yielding*
    dynamic
    democratic
    strategic*
    emotivist*
    negativist *
    judicious
    merry
    process*
    declaring

    •ESE
    ESFj
    farsighted*
    obstinate*
    dynamic
    democratic
    tactical*
    constructivist*
    positivist*
    judicious
    merry
    result*
    declaring

    Reinin Dichotomies 'test' (might make things easier):
    Sociotypograph — determine sociotype
    Thanks for all the help Seems to me that ESE is the better fit

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