User Tag List

First 12

Results 11 to 19 of 19

  1. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    MBTI
    INFJ
    Enneagram
    9w1
    Socionics
    INFp Ni
    Posts
    145

    Default

    OMG!!! Another one! Same exact predicament. I picked INFJ.

    Reason. People say you are a T, because Ni dom makes you quite dreamy, and not prone to socializing. You spit out that one really profound thing once in a while, which makes people see you as an intelectual. I lol at this.

    You listen to them because Fe wants agreement.

    Then you go back and think (Ni). Logical disagreement found, I'm not good at math (Ti). Then you do research, which is Se when you are a hermit with access to an infinite source of data labeled the internet.

    Finally, INFJs are probably NOT good at functioning normally in social situations. No Fi, can't pick up on subtle gestures.

    Fe wants agreement, not a conspiracy found out because this guy raised his eyebrows. I'm not going into why you are not INTP. It goes on the idea that Einstein isn't Bach or Tesla, and Bach or Tesla are both INT, but not the same one. I also believe Edison was the E version of Bach. But yeah, don't ask me what Einstein was if not INTP. Probably a sensor with an incredibly high intellect.

    If yes, this should make sense. Even if I'm wrong. Which I know think I am. Darn it. Einstein wasn't an INTP though. Probably Ne dom ENTP.

  2. #12
    Senior Member Alea_iacta_est's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Socionics
    ILI
    Posts
    1,838

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    Meh, so I get back again at the INTJ/INTP dilemma.

    I had narrowed down that I was INTx, then came to know of the loops and of the possibility of being an INFJ or ISTP but, after ruling those two out, I'm back again at the same point.

    If I had to type myself using functions, I'd say: Ni, Ti, Fi, Se with Ni and Ti switchable, which doesn't fit any system.
    Well, this statement:
    Generally, those who type as LII (or ILI) tend to also type as INTx in MBTI.
    was primarily a deterrent against pointless arguing that might arise over whether or not MBTI and Socionics are exactly correlative, meaning one type in one system matches with specifically one other type in the other system. Declaring this viewpoint often leads some individuals to pipe up, specifically those who happen to believe they are one type in one system and are, simultaneously, another completely different type in the other system, seeing themselves as evidence to the contrary since their own self-typing is assumed to be certain. This, as mentioned, leads to pointless arguing that tends to escalate when accusations are made that one person is mistyped (usually the one who "doesn't fit the mold" as they would put it).

    Realistically and for all intents and purposes, LII = Ti-Ne, which, in the Jungian Analysis of MBTI, is denoted as the 'INTP' type.

    Socionics is a superior system, anyhow.
    Likes Cygnus liked this post

  3. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    MBTI
    NOPE
    Socionics
    DONE Ni
    Posts
    224

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Well, this statement:
    was primarily a deterrent against pointless arguing that might arise over whether or not MBTI and Socionics are exactly correlative, meaning one type in one system matches with specifically one other type in the other system. Declaring this viewpoint often leads some individuals to pipe up, specifically those who happen to believe they are one type in one system and are, simultaneously, another completely different type in the other system, seeing themselves as evidence to the contrary since their own self-typing is assumed to be certain. This, as mentioned, leads to pointless arguing that tends to escalate when accusations are made that one person is mistyped (usually the one who "doesn't fit the mold" as they would put it).

    Realistically and for all intents and purposes, LII = Ti-Ne, which, in the Jungian Analysis of MBTI, is denoted as the 'INTP' type.

    Socionics is a superior system, anyhow.

    The infj is one percent of the population, so the probability that anyone would be an infj is almost impossible, but not entirely.
    "...Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
    I doubted if I should ever come back.
    I shall be telling this with a sigh
    Somewhere ages and ages hence:
    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
    I took the one less traveled by,
    And that has made all the difference."
    -The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost

  4. #14
    Senior Member Alea_iacta_est's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Socionics
    ILI
    Posts
    1,838

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mychemicalkilljoy View Post
    The infj is one percent of the population, so the probability that anyone would be an infj is almost impossible, but not entirely.
    Not sure if you were wanting to reply to the person above me, or not.

    I'm generally of the opinion anyways that sociotypes are spread more evenly among the population [i.e., I'm not too trusting of the listed population-percentages], as it would be terrible for SLEs to never find their dual type.
    Likes Cygnus liked this post

  5. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    MBTI
    NOPE
    Socionics
    DONE Ni
    Posts
    224

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Not sure if you were wanting to reply to the person above me, or not.

    I'm generally of the opinion anyways that sociotypes are spread more evenly among the population [i.e., I'm not too trusting of the listed population-percentages], as it would be terrible for SLEs to never find their dual type.
    Ok. Where did you get that info from and what makes it true?
    "...Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
    I doubted if I should ever come back.
    I shall be telling this with a sigh
    Somewhere ages and ages hence:
    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
    I took the one less traveled by,
    And that has made all the difference."
    -The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost

  6. #16
    Senior Member Alea_iacta_est's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Socionics
    ILI
    Posts
    1,838

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mychemicalkilljoy View Post
    Ok. Where did you get that info from and what makes it true?
    It isn't proven true, as denoted by the issuing of "generally of the opinion". It's a common viewpoint held by the vast majority of people who study Socionics due to studies made that point to an even distribution among the population by virtue of dichotomy. It is by no means the only view, however, as some seem to carry the MBTI percentages assessed from dichotomial preferences over to Socionics, saying that IEI, for instance, only occurs within 1-2% of the population with its correlative type in MBTI, the INFJ.

    And I still believe you meant to respond to the person that posted above me, Alomoes, as your original statement:
    The infj is one percent of the population, so the probability that anyone would be an infj is almost impossible, but not entirely.
    doesn't seem to pertain to my original post, which was assessing a common viewpoint that Socionics and MBTI types are exactly correlative. I didn't mention the 'INFJ' type at all nor did I assess type distribution originally. Alomoes's post references the 'INFJ'.

  7. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Posts
    409

    Default

    This wing brings Twos an extra measure of sociability and the capacity to make things happen. When healthy, can be charming, good-natured and heartfelt. Really get things done, serve effectively on projects that involve the well-being of others. Thrive on group process and are generally good communicators. Enjoy keeping several threads or profjects going at once.

  8. #18
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    MBTI
    NOPE
    Socionics
    DONE Ni
    Posts
    224

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    It isn't proven true, as denoted by the issuing of "generally of the opinion". It's a common viewpoint held by the vast majority of people who study Socionics due to studies made that point to an even distribution among the population by virtue of dichotomy. It is by no means the only view, however, as some seem to carry the MBTI percentages assessed from dichotomial preferences over to Socionics, saying that IEI, for instance, only occurs within 1-2% of the population with its correlative type in MBTI, the INFJ.

    And I still believe you meant to respond to the person that posted above me, Alomoes, as your original statement:
    doesn't seem to pertain to my original post, which was assessing a common viewpoint that Socionics and MBTI types are exactly correlative. I didn't mention the 'INFJ' type at all nor did I assess type distribution originally. Alomoes's post references the 'INFJ'.
    Ohhh lol sorry. But I guess the population percentage is never true bc someone is born like every second... So I guess everyone is more common. You're smart, I gotta say.
    So the MBTI and socionics don't correlate? So I've always been wondering what is more accurate...MBTI or socionics. I'm def a perceiver, but infjs ARE perceived in socionics though... So then again I may be an infp in MBTI? I'm confused.
    "...Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
    I doubted if I should ever come back.
    I shall be telling this with a sigh
    Somewhere ages and ages hence:
    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
    I took the one less traveled by,
    And that has made all the difference."
    -The Road Not Taken by Robert Frost

  9. #19
    Senior Member Alea_iacta_est's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Socionics
    ILI
    Posts
    1,838

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mychemicalkilljoy View Post
    Ohhh lol sorry. But I guess the population percentage is never true bc someone is born like every second... So I guess everyone is more common. You're smart, I gotta say.
    So the MBTI and socionics don't correlate? So I've always been wondering what is more accurate...MBTI or socionics. I'm def a perceiver, but infjs ARE perceived in socionics though... So then again I may be an infp in MBTI? I'm confused.
    There is no unanimous opinion that Socionics and MBTI correlate. There are many viewpoints that offer perspective, however, which include:

    • MBTI and Socionics directly correlate, with respect to Jung's cognitive functions. (LII = INTP, SEE = ESFP)
    • MBTI and Socionics partly correlate. (LII = INTx, SEE = ESFx)
    • MBTI and Socionics are completely different systems. (LII may equal ISTP, ENFJ, ENTP, or even ESFP)
    • MBTI and Socionics directly correlate, with respect to MBTI's dichotomies. (LII = INTJ, SEE = ESFP)


    Now, I support the first theory, that MBTI and Socionics directly correlate with Jung's cognitive functions in mind. However, I am of the opinion that Socionics is a superior system, and really don't care about correlations to MBTI, except for the fact that practically the only way people will ever get introduced to Socionics is through exposure to MBTI.

Similar Threads

  1. Really confused what is my enneagram type?
    By Forever in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 10-11-2013, 05:35 PM
  2. What is my enneagram type?
    By Fay in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-09-2013, 05:45 PM
  3. What is my MBTI type?
    By surfing_usa_timez in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 15
    Last Post: 01-07-2013, 02:00 PM
  4. What is my true type.
    By jixmixfix in forum Myers-Briggs and Jungian Cognitive Functions
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 08-01-2012, 10:17 PM
  5. What is my enneagram type?
    By Eckhart in forum Enneagram
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 12-06-2010, 04:51 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO