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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Chainsaw View Post
    Religion is a way of finding comfort, not truth. Sure, a deity of sorts is feasibly consistent with science but of the ones humans have anthropomorphised? I think you're being purposely facetious.
    I didn't say anything about deities. It's a particularly western misconception that religion and theism are one and the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    @Starcrash Yes there is. There can only be One Truth, that supercedes all other truths.

    At least that is what monotheism is. I suppose if you don't hold monotheism as a truth, then you would see that there could be many truths.
    I don't think I made myself very clear.

    Yes, there may be one universal truth, but I was trying to articulate my idea that, in the grand scheme of things, all of the clashing "truths" in this world need not be seen as being at odds with one another. All truths stem from a greater truth. I'm not necessarily talking about God, although you're welcome to interpret it that way. There is truth in religion and there is truth in science. There are also falsehoods to be found within both. All of it is ultimately part of the same fabric and ultimately, even one person's falsehood is another's truth.

    I think I just confused myself more. It all seemed so clear in my head.

    Anyway, I'm not trying to force a belief or philosophy on you or anyone else, and I apologize for taking this thread off topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Chainsaw View Post
    Religion is a way of finding comfort, not truth. Sure, a deity of sorts is feasibly consistent with science but of the ones humans have anthropomorphised? I think you're being purposely facetious.
    This is true, but I think religion originated as a way of explaining the unknown, the unseen, and also explaining why the world and its inhabitants exist as they do and do the things they do--why do stars shine, why do people die, why is poop brown, etc. In that sense, I think religion and science have the same basic g

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    @Starcrash

    I think I know what you mean. When I was an atheist, I found a common denominator in that there is One Good, even though some of us might be heading there in different ways. That there is one way up, and many different paths to that way.

    But that is actually falacious thinking. And I discovered that by crashing and burning. My failure? Loving too much? How can that be?

    That can be because even though I intuited truth and love, I did not hold its Creator, God, in esteem, or even consider Him. Because I did not know Him or love Him or even care one whit about Him, I had no real idea what I should do, how I should express my excessive love, or how to really live for the best good.

    So there are NOT many paths to righteousness. There is only one, narrow path, and only few who find that path, and few who will follow that path. Many are following wrong paths, thinking they will find heaven. They, sadly, will not. The only way to nirvana or Heaven is through loving God, and seeking to know Him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    @Starcrash

    I think I know what you mean. When I was an atheist, I found a common denominator in that there is One Good, even though some of us might be heading there in different ways. That there is one way up, and many different paths to that way.

    But that is actually falacious thinking. And I discovered that by crashing and burning. My failure? Loving too much? How can that be?

    That can be because even though I intuited truth and love, I did not hold its Creator, God, in esteem, or even consider Him. Because I did not know Him or love Him or even care one whit about Him, I had no real idea what I should do, how I should express my excessive love, or how to really live for the best good.

    So there are NOT many paths to righteousness. There is only one, narrow path, and only few who find that path, and few who will follow that path. Many are following wrong paths, thinking they will find heaven. They, sadly, will not. The only way to nirvana or Heaven is through loving God, and seeking to know Him.
    Why must God be a He or She?

    I've never been able to grasp that. If there is a god, I don't see how it could be embodied in any form, at least one that mere mortals could see or experience without blowing their minds.

    Have you read the writings of Krishnamurti and/or Alan Watts? MAYBE I could accept their version of God or something close. I can't accept the idea of one supreme monarch ruling from the heavens. Might as well worship Zeus. I also agree with Einstein that God does not play dice.

    However, I don't want to insult your beliefs. If it works for you and makes you a happier person, then that should be enough for you.

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    Alan Watts is fantastic. A bit wishy-wash at times but what else would you expect from a career philosopher?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
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    After seeing my results again, and living as an INTP for about a week now, there is a real chance I might really be an INFJ......But just a tough minded, critical one who likes to keep things open-ended (P-ish).

    The thing that belies that, however, is the phone consultation I had with the specialist. We discussed my preference for T/F and my preference for J/P and it was clear in talking with him that I was more T and more P; to him and to me. And I was going off of childhood memories as well as adult ways of being as much as I could in working out my J/P and T/F.

    I guess it's like I have 2 faces. The 2 faces of aphrodite lol. My infj face i reserve for my clients and new people, and my intp face which is more my normal way of being. Hence why I like to get snarky on here, but not as snarky as the TJs. I think the INTP side of me just went dormant while with my ISTP ex because his Ti overruled mine, and it was easier as a mother and midwife to be an infj.
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    I know plenty of tough-minded INFJs. They tend to gradually become more cynical - and more flexible - as they get older.

    It's really funny. An INFJ dance friend and I almost always end up deciding to "wing it", deciding whether to dance at the last minute based on circumstance. An ENFP dance friend of mine was bragging about how she has all of her time scheduled so she can maximize her fun.

    Younger INFJs in my experience aren't so flexible and can seem a bit stuck up. Younger ENFPs in my experience only stick to schedules that they have to stick to (to keep a job, for example), and even then they resent them.

    There is an overall ironic truth, here. Those who are naturally particular (J) eventually learn that they are more likely to get something close to what they want if they're more flexible. Those who are naturally more flexible eventually learn that they are more able to enjoy their flexibility if they add structure to their lives.
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    I see what you mean.

    Perhaps as we get older, we really just become Dom/Aux xx?
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    I have thought about it some more and to the extent it is helpful, I feel relatively certain that you prefer Ti over Te and Fe over Fi. Understanding if you prefer Ne or Ni would seem to be an essential thing in coming to an answer.

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    @AphroditeGoneAwry: Did your consultant talk about type in terms of cognitive functions? Were functions part of the discussion at all?

    For good or for bad, forums probably rely on them in their definitions of the type much more than consultants do; and so I wouldn't be surprised at any mismatch between the consultant's perception and the forum's.
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