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    failure to thrive AphroditeGoneAwry's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by blahblahbob View Post
    IDK, he (Harry Chapin) won the Congressional Gold Medal...
    Okay. With a famous song? Oh, he did cats in the cradle....I see
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Okay. With a famous song? Oh, he did cats in the cradle....I see
    what do you see miss isfj ?
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    What do you care? You just called me an idiot!

    And I'm not a good enough homemaker to be an isfj~
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    you dont know entps, do you ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post

    I think you can chalk this up to J types (especially EJs) being more solution-focused rather than Fe.
    I agree, about the J factor- though generally the "you should"s will be aimed at the respective T/F criteria. And I think- in addition to feeling an urgency to reduce chaos in the external environment- it's largely just clumsiness and not realizing that Ti/Fi take it like a grenade.

    (And I loved the rest of your post.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by blahblahbob View Post
    Fe's destroy lives, they gossip, slander, libel, manipulate, ostracize... I don't blame you.
    I'm sensing a wee bit of hate here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    I'm summoning @Hard to this thread so his 1w2 ass can have a field day. And I'm sure you can add more to help the OP as well.
    Ha!

    It really comes down to this:

    Fe focuses on external order and meaning of the world and how others respond to things. It takes "satistics" of others to heart very heavily, often feeling that if many people think, believe, or act a certain way, there's likely a good reason for it. There is the incorrect assumption that this is simply taken at face value. It's merely a starting point.

    Fi focuses on internal order and meaning. It sees the self as the best way to order information about others and the world and how it applies. Usually from the mindset that others don't have the ability or skill to view things as nuanced as the individual; others are more error prone, and the individual matters most. There is often the incorrect assumption that Fi is selfish and self-absorbed. It merely needs to act as an independent entity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    I think you can chalk this up to J types (especially EJs) being more solution-focused rather than Fe.
    I got this from a few INFJs [emoji33]
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    Quote Originally Posted by blahblahbob View Post
    Fe's destroy lives, they gossip, slander, libel, manipulate, ostracize... I don't blame you.
    There's nothing helpful about a post like this^ at all.

    I have been reading your thoughts here and in other threads and find your interpretations and your typing based on outward-facing superficial qualities. Unless you are a very young INFP, your typings feel more ISTJ to me, so reading how you present your thoughts leads me to question your own type more than anything else.

    Here is what I have found: the manifestation of the judging function is highly reliant on a pairing with the instinctual subtypes of the enneagram, as AGA pointed out above.
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    other things become ugly.
    When people see some things as good,
    other things become bad."
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    - Internal Dynamics of Objects
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    's attention state (when it is being utilized) involves tracking the emotional environment's movement and actively putting forth effort to change or influence it to the user's will. types can always detect who is having fun at a party, for instance, and who isn't, and attempts to bring the latter into the emotional fray so that they can enjoy the experience with everyone else. types possess relatively strong emotions that almost leak out of them into the environment, allowing them to infect others with their extreme passions and emotional state. They know exactly how to produce an emotional affect out of people and always seek out emotional reactions in those around them through any means, and they also know how people directly affect each other, whether or not people are complementary, for instance.

    's attention state (when it is being utilized) is really the analysis of emotions themselves, along with the moral, ethical analysis of actions performed in the environment. Thus, types tend to perceive reality in terms of right and wrong, of attractive and repulsive, and many other dichotomies. Everything that catches their attention is filtered according to these dichotomies; people are constantly filtered according to whether or not the user personally prefers them or dislikes them, and actions are constantly filtered according to whether or not they were right or wrong. They also are able to tell if other people attract each other or repulse each other, whether one person likes or dislikes the other person, able to read others' own personal sentiments.

    organizes everything into a web that clarifies each object or person's relation to other objects or people, always detailing how some people or objects relate to each other in the ethical, emotional sense.

    interacts with everything in the environment to produce an emotional reaction or a desired ethical result, always taking note as to how things or people affect each other emotionally.
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