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    Or INTP, or INFP. A lot of what you said sounds like what I would say, which is Ne. BUT, a lot of what you said doesn't. I don't know.

    There is actually a game about autism, and it is exactly this.

    "I was overwhelmed by all the noise and the screaming and children running around so fast (they were friggin' barbarians). UGH."

    That is sensory overload. Sensory overload - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I'm confused.
    I identify with Ti, but what if I use Te?
    What if Si>Se?
    What if- NO PLEASE STAHP

    Ne. Asking what if questions is an Ne thing.

    I relate to what a lot of you said. It could be because ISTJ and INFP share the same functions in a similar order, but I don't know. You seem to have multiple psychoses, and I don't know.

    When I was little, I did the exact same thing in kindergarten. I was like "Why is everybody talking? That is against the rules!".

    Formed my personality mostly since, or was a result of my forming personality.

    Fi is an impossible thing to describe. So that is my description. You interpret data based on your feelings?

    Ti and Fi are often confused because they are so similar. Both are the same type of function, the interpreting function.

    An Fi user who does not mask this would break into some kind of random dance, while a Ti user would analyze our insanity, while a Te user would be like "STAHP!"

    Am I right? I really don't know.

    An Fe user would do whatever seems most socially acceptable.

    Problem is, most Fi users mask their Fi in Ne. It is because logic is so much more valued in this world. Fi + Ne looks like Ti + Ne. Also, your description of Si reminds me of myself.

    I really don't know whether ISTJ or INFP. You question a TON. Ne is strong with thee. My next question is whether you focus upon tangible things, or fantasy land type stuff.

    In conclusion, I don't know, but probably not Ti. Ti and Fi cannot be seen with the naked eye except with the combination of Ne or Fe or Te. You don't have Se.

    Oh and you lack Fe so you are a Te/Fi user.

    Conclusion is that you are INFP/ISTJ, and I don't know anymore than that.

    Questions to answer: Do you tend to think more about fantasy or about more tangible things? Do you have indescribable feelings about things?

    Hope the Wikipedia article on sensory overload helped though.

    And I grew up in a similar environment, less the sensory overload, so I can relate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alomoes View Post
    Questions to answer: Do you tend to think more about fantasy or about more tangible things? Do you have indescribable feelings about things?
    I don't know. When I don't like what I have to deal with I withdraw and retreat into my head, where everything is nice, and I hope that whatever is scaring me goes away. I asked my mum and a close friend what they thought, one said I'm always on another planet and should face reality instead of ignoring it, the other that I'm more practical and concrete. I can be practical when there's a tangible problem that needs to be solved (fix something, build or assemble an IKEA table... I like working with my hands), but I avoid dealing with problems like school, my social anxiety, the fact that I'll never find a job (so I daydream about not having to worry about these things instead of trying to do something)... I wish I could find a practical solution to those too, I wish I could open my skull and rewire my brain or something. The reason why I though I used Ti is that I'm often wondering about how things work: when I see an interesting mechanism internally my reaction is ":O", I get excited when something makes perfect sense and all the pieces of the metaphorical jigsaw puzzle are in the right place, and when I grab something with my hand and I see the tendons in my arm moving I'm like "whoa, give me a screwdriver I want to know exactly what's happening inside... oh. No screws". I'd much rather learn about anatomy by dissecting a corpse than by studying on a book. I guess I'm more hands-on than imaginative.

    Fi... maybe. I couldn't relate at all to the thing about actions that must be in sync with moral beliefs, because I don't really have an internal belief system, but if Fi is more than what's written in the descriptions and is impossible to explain, than I've probably never understood what it is.
    Sometimes (not very often) when I see something bad happening I think "this is wrong", but then I start thinking "why is it wrong? What is 'wrong'? Wrong doesn't exist", and if something feels wrong, it doesn't always mean that I won't do it.
    Often I laugh when tragedies happen because I see a funny aspect in them and people think I'm insensitive, but, I mean, people die all the time. Deal with it. Sometimes I have thoughts like "would I feel guilty if I killed someone? I should try." or, "to prove this theory we could do this: *experiment that involves keeping infants in a cage*", and I would deal drugs or become an assassin if it meant making a living out of it.
    My dream life is on a deserted island where winters are cold and snowy and summers are hot and where I can lie on a white beach all day with my laptop without worrying about anything and without being involved in the shit other people do to complicate their and others' lives (war, economy, politics or any other form of entertainment they use these days). It's kinda selfish, I guess, but what other people do is none of my business and I want no part in it, so if I use Fi am I suppressing it by not caring?
    When I was ten the first line of one of my writing assignments was: First of all, I wish my life was easier, for example I would like to go to school only two days a week. My life wasn't hard, it was busy. I had to do everything my mother wanted me to do (mostly things that I hated) and I almost had no time to just lie in my bed and waste time doing absolutely nothing, which is my favourite 'activity'. Well it's literally the opposite of an activity, but you know what I mean.

    ^see how I write? I don't know how to make connections between different things. This has always been a problem. Is writing style relevant in the typing process?

    Also, when someone tells me there's a problem, I try to find a solution by asking many yes or no questions rather than allowing the person to explain. Te?

    Hope the Wikipedia article on sensory overload helped though.
    Yes, a lot. Thank you. I don't like self-diagnosing stuff but I almost certainly have this.

    I'm sorry for the length of this post :/

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    ^You sound like you might have some antisocial personality characteristics.
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    Hrrm. Have you ever thought about Si?

    From site here: Introverted Sensing (Si)
    I don't like this site, but it is a shortish description, and that is what we need. No three page essay.
    Introverted Sensing often involves storing data and information, then comparing and contrasting the current situation with similar ones.

    The immediate experience or words are instantly linked with the prior experiences, and we register a similarity or a difference—for example, noticing that some food doesn't taste the same or is saltier than it usually is.

    Introverted Sensing is also operating when we see someone who reminds us of someone else.

    Sometimes a feeling associated with the recalled image comes into our awareness along with the information itself. Then the image can be so strong, our body responds as if reliving the experience. The process also involves reviewing the past to draw on the lessons of history, hindsight, and experience.

    With introverted Sensing, there is often great attention to detail and getting a clear picture of goals and objectives and what is to happen. There can be a oneness with ageless customs that help sustain civilization and culture and protect what is known and long-lasting, even while what is reliable changes.


    But yeah, I can relate to not having a belief system. Writing style is half evident of type. Mostly not. If yes, than likely ISFJ. If no, then I lose!

    But I can say you are NOT ISTP because of the presence of Ne, something they don't have, unless you are weird/a mutant/whatever. I'm assuming you are not a mutant.

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    I do have some antisocial tendencies but I try to hide them. I'd say I'm not dangerous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alomoes View Post
    I don't like this site
    Ew, neither do I (yellow on a purple background? srsly? (just kidding))

    The immediate experience or words are instantly linked with the prior experiences, and we register a similarity or a difference—for example, noticing that some food doesn't taste the same or is saltier than it usually is.
    Nah. My mother is always getting angry at me because I never notice the difference between, say, yesterday's meat sauce and today's meat sauce, or because I can't answer questions like "is this too salty?". I'm not saying that for me all food tastes the same, but sometimes I ju

    Introverted Sensing is also operating when we see someone who reminds us of someone else.
    Happens with objects or buildings more than with people.

    Sometimes a feeling associated with the recalled image comes into our awareness along with the information itself. Then the image can be so strong, our body responds as if reliving the experience. The process also involves reviewing the past to draw on the lessons of history, hindsight, and experience.
    No. This is the first thing that led me to question whether I used Si or not: I never feel, I just recall the information. If I there's a building that looks like one from my past, I'll just think "oh, that building looks like one from my past". Maybe I'll smile, most likely not, but I'm not very nostalgic.

    With introverted Sensing, there is often great attention to detail and getting a clear picture of goals and objectives and what is to happen. There can be a oneness with ageless customs that help sustain civilization and culture and protect what is known and long-lasting, even while what is reliable changes.
    If society is changing, then those 'ageless' customs should be left in the past. Why preserve them if they're no longer useful?

    But I can say you are NOT ISTP because of the presence of Ne, something they don't have, unless you are weird/a mutant/whatever. I'm assuming you are not a mutant.
    I'm no mutant and I don't have dissociative identity disorder, but the first time I posted in this subforum everyone agreed on ISTP (and from what I had written in that post it made sense). I don't think my personality has changed so there's probably something wrong with my perception of myself.

    (I doubt I'm ISFJ. The only thing in me that slightly resembles Fe is when I feel like I have to dress in a certain way or watch a certain movie just because everyone dresses like that and everyone has seen that movie, because I'm expected to. Yet, I never put much effort in choosing what clothes to wear and I've never seen Star Wars)

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    Hiding them is not really a good idea, though, because usually issues that deep and serious become larger when repressed, and cause problems in so many facets of a life. And even though it is tempting on a site like this to explain those types of feelings with cognitive functions, it isn't accurate.

    Not picking on you, and I hope you don't take what I am saying with offense, just giving you my opinion since you posted. :hugs:
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    Well. I believe that leaves ISJ out. As such, INFP or INTP. So in the end, I shall finish by asking YOU. What do you think you are? You can be I or E, N or S, T or F, and finally P or J. Disregard anything anyone else has said. I'm pretty sure you know. All I do is make sure your definition of N, or E or F matches up with mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Hiding them is not really a good idea, though, because usually issues that deep and serious become larger when repressed, and cause problems in so many facets of a life. And even though it is tempting on a site like this to explain those types of feelings with cognitive functions, it isn't accurate.

    Not picking on you, and I hope you don't take what I am saying with offense, just giving you my opinion since you posted. :hugs:
    I know, and I'm starting to notice now. It's probably related to a passive anger issue I have yet to solve, so hopefully when I do this will go away as well... and 8 functions can't describe every aspect of something so complex and multifaceted as human personality, but you're right, it is tempting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alomoes View Post
    Well. I believe that leaves ISJ out. As such, INFP or INTP. So in the end, I shall finish by asking YOU. What do you think you are? You can be I or E, N or S, T or F, and finally P or J. Disregard anything anyone else has said. I'm pretty sure you know. All I do is make sure your definition of N, or E or F matches up with mine.
    I think IxxP. I'm forgetful, I don't make plans and even when I do (very rarely) I don't stick to them, I'm not what you'd call a dependable hardworker, the only reason why I do what I'm told is that I don't want to get in trouble, in fact if I find a way to cheat without getting caught you can bet I'll do it. I don't like structure and I see it as a limitation of my freedom, I go with the flow, I work in bursts of energy, I'm always late for everything, I need a lot of time and information to make a decision (otherwise I'll choose impulsively), I'm adaptable, I don't go out with my ID because I'd probably lose it, *other stereotypical P traits*... and I'm definitely an introvert.

    Most likely S rather than N because I'm more hands-on than imaginative and I like to see results, but that would mean Se, which we excluded.
    At first I did think I was INTP (Ne-Si), but it was only because I looked like a stereotypical INxP (staying in my bedroom all day, spending way too much time on my laptop, not doing anything, reading about random interesting stuff on Wikipedia...), so I don't know.

    Si:



    Se:



    T vs F is blurry. I used to think I was a clear T but, truth is, I don't know.
    - I'm not very empathetic, I can try to comfort my friends because I care about them and because that's what I'm expected to do, but I won't feel what they're feeling and I probably won't fully understand.
    - When I feel, I can usually detach from what I'm feeling and analyze it, but when it's too much I want my rational part to just leave me alone and let me drown in my negative thoughts.
    - I value logical decisions more than ethical ones. If I'm arguing with someone who wants to make an ethical decision, I'll feel like I'm making much more more sense than them.
    - I wish I had more power over my feelings, I wish I could control them, not only suppress them.


    (I'm sorry I bumped this thread)

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    I don't think you're ISTJ. Your writing style doesn't seem like mine, and various things you've said I can't relate to. Not sure what your type would be though.

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    Intuitive.

    No S cares that much to talk about these things.
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