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    me

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    that is all

    i dunno what else to say so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Business View Post
    @Evee - Maybe...until I take over the world.
    @oneandonly - Judging from what I experienced on the outside world and on this forum, I have no choice but to produce the conclusion that I am the only being in the whole universe that INFJs in general, genuinely hate (I many be the perfect paragon of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, but come on)...they just don't want to admit it. Easier to deem the malcontent insane than admit that even they feel some level of resentment towards some people (not all INFJ, but I have a 99% success rate at infuriating them, the 1% refers to a good friend of mine whose energetic nature makes me think of him as ENFJ). Oh and I never asked anyone to call me upstairs from the underworld, I was having so much fun torturing souls and smoking weed with my bestie the new King of Hell (his name is Crowley, I do not refer to Lucifer, now that guy has some daddy issues, Crowley's got style). Nope, never had romantic relationships, other than the girl during senior year who kept saying I was her boyfriend. She was a bit nuts, I had some people look into her a bit and they concluded that she was obsessed with my influential nature...so yea, not a romantic. As I mentioned before, today-land is bad for people like me, back in the goodoldays it was so simple, as was human nature. Obey, or rebel were the two buttons in the single-player version of prisoner's dilemma and each had their pros and cons depending on the situation. I strategically pick Obey/Rebel. I rebel against my family because I see them as weak and ineffective (my grandfather gave up his post as second in command in a Ukrainian Aviation firm because my mother was sick and because he wanted to come to the US, where we had nobody, no friends, no allies, no knowledge of the language, no luck, everyone in my family became home attendants and their lack of care about their poverty infuriated me as the days rolled by. However, the change was beneficial, instead of being pampered (we left for the US when I was very young) I grew up on level one and have worked my way up until I became a student body leader in my senior year of high school...then I graduated, and yes my psyche suffered severely from my fall from grace, I felt betrayed even though I really wasn't) Anyway, long rant...I was very obedient in school, especially high school because I respected the teachers and Administrators (T types mostly) and I was blasted away by their passion and knowledge. I never once was suspended, called out for talking, sent to detention or the deans office, I was the perfect student...a little too perfect (eyes suddenly glow red). That means no ADHD. (I do have some level of OCD) I am 19, just turned 19 on 9/11 (no joke, seriously).

    @phobic - you mean...blessing...don't you? (INTJ death stare initiated)
    @Mal12345 - Well...I hope you're ok with "gluten free baby uvulas" -Crowley (I couldn't resist it...it just fits) Anyway, seems the INFJs are banding together against the current prevailing typing (what irony, they claim I'm rebelling...talk about the pot calling the kettle back) ENTP vs ENTJ it is... 3w4/4w3 vs 8wDEVIL...and it seems sp or sp/so it is. I smell an epic showdown...now its off to the sewer for me until the surface world cools down. (that makes me sound like a troll doesn't it?)
    I'm not worried about the dissenters because I'm certain of my call. 3w4 versus 4w3 does make a difference. But if you think it should be 4w3 that's ok with me.
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    @Mal12345 (as well as everyone else) - Tough call, I tend to go from 3w4 to 4w3 at the most random tims (right now I feel very much like a 3w4) a month ago I would have been unbending from 4w3. I am interested in self exploration, but I deeply resent emotions. So I might be an unhealthy 4w3, one who tries to repress emotions. Actually now that I think about it I realize that deep inside I am very sensitive and emotional on the inside and have been trying very hard (resorted to medication cocktails sometimes over the counter and other times under doctorial oversight) So I would not be against 4w3. In terms of MBTI I could be a very unhealthy xNFx type. I have to admit, I have this urge to cry, my nerves are killing me (its not pain though, its something else) and I have had a nervous breakdown recently where I just lay on the floor sobbing and wondering why I am so weak. Looking back, I so much resent being reduced to such a mess, and have deep seated emotions against all emotions. I also am deeply troubled by stuff in the news which causes my emotions to come out of the drain that I keep corked up, I verbally dismiss the news by saying to myself "these people deserved it" or "they are so pathetic" but deep inside I am fighting a guerilla rebellion of emotions. So at this point, I am really unsure whether I can stick to the current ENTJ MBTI type, but I may agree more with 4w3...but I don't have to like it. I just want to feel nothing, to be 100% rational, logical, and objective. I know that all types have good qualities and each have their own specialties, but there are types that I want to be more like than other types. Its like wanting to be a lawyer but not having the capacity to understand the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Business View Post
    @Mal12345 (as well as everyone else) - Tough call, I tend to go from 3w4 to 4w3 at the most random tims (right now I feel very much like a 3w4) a month ago I would have been unbending from 4w3. I am interested in self exploration, but I deeply resent emotions. So I might be an unhealthy 4w3, one who tries to repress emotions. Actually now that I think about it I realize that deep inside I am very sensitive and emotional on the inside and have been trying very hard (resorted to medication cocktails sometimes over the counter and other times under doctorial oversight) So I would not be against 4w3. In terms of MBTI I could be a very unhealthy xNFx type. I have to admit, I have this urge to cry, my nerves are killing me (its not pain though, its something else) and I have had a nervous breakdown recently where I just lay on the floor sobbing and wondering why I am so weak. Looking back, I so much resent being reduced to such a mess, and have deep seated emotions against all emotions. I also am deeply troubled by stuff in the news which causes my emotions to come out of the drain that I keep corked up, I verbally dismiss the news by saying to myself "these people deserved it" or "they are so pathetic" but deep inside I am fighting a guerrilla rebellion of emotions. So at this point, I am really unsure whether I can stick to the current ENTJ MBTI type, but I may agree more with 4w3...but I don't have to like it. I just want to feel nothing, to be 100% rational, logical, and objective. I know that all types have good qualities and each have their own specialties, but there are types that I want to be more like than other types. Its like wanting to be a lawyer but not having the capacity to understand the law.
    A quick post before heading off to work:

    The enneagram is a more flexible (or dynamic, as Riso described it) system than the MBTI. But the latter also has the JCF aspect to lend it some flexibility.

    The 4w3 is a conflicted type. This personality struggles between the 4's need for personal authenticity and the 3's need to appear competent in the eyes of others.
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    ENTP, enneagram 3. Welp. That was easy.

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    @Mal12345 - I'm going to stick with ENTx for now. Sp is still unchallenged. As for the Enneagram, I find the wing system to be a little bit more uncertain when it comes to typing someone initially so I will stick with tritypes which I am slightly inclined to claim to be 468 (I get 4 on the tests, and it fits my internal world, at work I act like an 8, and at home people tell me I am a 6) I would hypothesize the accurate typing as 4w3-6w5-8w7. But I need more evidence and I will check the web for more info on ENTJ/ENTP with that and similar enneagrams. I actually found something interesting, its about the hotheaded truther...nuff said:
    Any other 468 tritypes here?
    @boomslang - .........proof please? I am not against the 3 enneagram. Wait...what's this (looks at the word "Welp")...I am sure you meant the word "Well" but in any case, in the words of the might king of evil Uka-Uka: "I don't know whether to kiss you...or kill you" -Uka-Uka

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Business View Post
    @boomslang - .........proof please? I am not against the 3 enneagram. Wait...what's this (looks at the word "Welp")...I am sure you meant the word "Well" but in any case, in the words of the might king of evil Uka-Uka: "I don't know whether to kiss you...or kill you" -Uka-Uka
    The 'jokingly narcissist' archetype of ENTP 3s is one of the most common things I've seen on typology forums.

    I'll go through starting with the ENTP typing.

    I built up the profile of ENTP starting with:

    (1) I Like to be emerged in activities and am "novelty seeking" (Promethease's words not mine, in other words its more than a trait, its my genes)
    (Ne)

    (4) I am only interested in people from an analytical standpoint. (Ne+Ti)

    (5) Small talk and theorizing are both interesting to me (to a point) (Fe+Si, then Ne+Ti)

    (7) I am very reflective, I am the center in all my activities (nope, I'm not a narcissist, but yes I'm an egomaniac) (EP temperament)

    (10) I do not contribute (verbally) in groups, or talk to people at all. Unless I have power, or know that my voice and my expertise will not be ignored (ExTP, in my experience)

    (7) Not very curious and I like to BS (although many find my insights to be rather truthful...) (Te devaluing)

    (1) I am an ungrateful, inconsiderate, cold hearted demon (all things I gladly take in as compliments, and yes I have been called these things) (Weak and unvalued Fi)

    Ni - The epiphany part happens to me at times (usually when its too late) (Ni ignoring. Had an ENTP housemate that I never ceased to hear "looks like you right again" from as far as predictions went)

    (1) I am a Libertarian, a Deist, a Hobbesian and an Anarchist (I barely know much about them) (in my experience, these classifications in general have appealed more to Ti/Fe types. I find they classify belief systems, whereas Te/Fi types more often classify behaviour, phenomena and principles)

    (20) Everything I write ends up being all too long (Perceiving/Irrational)

    (21) I am a terrible listener and I enjoy being a presenter (Extraversion)
    And enneagram 3:

    (6) I am very impatient and look like I need anger management (although, much to other people's surprises, I tend to be cool when they expect me to burst)

    (7) I am very reflective, I am the center in all my activities (nope, I'm not a narcissist, but yes I'm an egomaniac)

    (4) I dislike authority (except if I am in charge, or if the boss is a flake) (assertive triad)

    (7) Not very curious and I like to BS (although many find my insights to be rather truthful...)

    (9) I am very sensitive to criticism (unless its work related, which is fine if there is a decent argument involved)

    (2) Power...me...like...(drools on the floor)

    (7) At one point I had 50 people who worked for me (best year of my high school life) lets just say many thought that we were the answer to the principal's "dissenter" problem and in many ways we were.

    (10) I like to wear suits (even when the alarm goes of in Pompeii) mostly because of self esteem issues

    (17) I have very high standards (personal standards are usually higher than those meant for others)
    With the enneagram, I started with the assertive triad (3, 7, 8) then looked for a whole host of things to confirm/preclude any of those three types. I'm guessing you think you're an 8 from how you wrote, but I think there's a whole host of things that didn't indicate that (which I don't want to spoil, because I'd rather not encourage swaying with new biases). 3w4 is what I ended up with, though I suspected 7w6 at one stage.

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    @boomslang - I happen to be a lot more organized than many ENTP I observed, however, I am very terrible at debate (good at arguing step by step though) I do have moments where I envision some idea, but I pride myself more on trying to change existing systems for the better or creating and implementing new ones. I am not so good at jokes outside the home, It either comes naturally or not at all, I tend to be a little too neurotic to the point where I can only rely on middle school English to communicate with others, unless I want to have five minute pauses to say something somewhat better than a 8th grader at a given point. That is why I prefer writing...at least until I can deal with my nerves, because I really enjoy talking, and I can't do that publically without hanging myself out to dry. Also about the ideology example, its just a baseline belief, these types of people to me come across as logical, reasonable, and neutral, which makes them ideal starting points for me to recuperate and construct my own ideology before launching it on the outside world. Its like my Stalin and Communism example, I claim an idea while doing something different with it. I mean I would claim autocracy or czarism as my ideologies but that would require me to be obedient to the concept of the ideology, which are the kings and czars, and I only believe in those concepts if I am in charge, or someone I deem worthy is in charge. Libertarians and Deists, are more loose in their requirements which make them the perfect beginners board for anyone who is against ineffective and corrupt authority (strong and fair leaders gain my respect. However, there have been fewer and fewer examples of such leaders as history advances into the next generation.)

    @all - I have read somewhere that body language and the facial structure of an individual helps type them. I myself do not find myself against posting a photo of myself for review, but I want to cover all legal bases before doing so. I'm not too much of a privacy oriented guy (except, when I am in a bad mood, but that's irrelevant) and I have not read anything explicit about self photos from the rules (no I do not plan to put a photo of me naked wearing a rubber duck life ring, wearing a steel bucket helmet, while holding a knife...at least not on this website.) So I would appreciate it if anyone could comment about whether or not (a) I should resort to such extremes (the real photo, not the outlandish example of a photo) or (b) If that is at all necessary (I mean we narrowed it to two MBTI types (ENTP vs ENTJ))

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    You're definitely not an introvert, nor judging/rational.

    Going via Socionics, I'd have you down as an Ti-ENTp (not INTj as you've picked out yourself). I just lived with one of those for the past 8 months. Most likely 7w6 and sp/so stacking.

    Like you, he considers himself an organised person, but in fact all he's doing is pretending to be confident in his decisions (which change extremely sharply upon any new external factor introduced, compared to looking at the big picture and considering all things old and new in the decision) and his planning (which falls apart because of his impulsiveness). He also over-explains himself and goes through every single step without making any intuitive leaps or assumed understanding on the part of the interlocutor. He sometimes takes 30 minutes to get to the point where a five word answer would have communicated exactly the same thing.

    It makes the eyes of Fe/Ti types light up, and the eyes of Te/Fi types glaze over.

    I don't think there's any way in hell you'd be an Extraverted Thinking type in Jung (which is what ENTJ would imply), but set it if you want, MBTI is kind of transient and there's a lack of cohesiveness in the cognitive functions compared to Socionics, so you might as well just put whatever four dichotomies a test spits out for it. I score all sorts of types on MBTI tests (most typically, ISTP, ISFP, ISTJ, ISFJ, even ENTJ sometimes), I just keep the ISFP thing up there because it lines up with the ESI-Se Socionics typing, which I think is a system easier to come to a type conclusion in.

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