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    0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.

    Anxiety, depression, and paranoia attributed to a serotonin deficiency (currently taking Citalopram)

    1. What is beauty? What is love?

    Beauty is a shallow concept; another category for people to be sorted into. It is programmed in our psyche to be desirable. However, depending on a person's perspective, it can be anything.

    Love is something (in my opinion) that is settled on. We do not choose our family, our friends are narrowed according to where we live (our true friends, not the online ones), and when two people cannot have who they want, they go for the next best thing.

    2. What are your most important values?

    My values depend on the situation and which perspective I am seeing. I'd say that the one, never-changing value I treasure is privacy. It is the reason I do not want friends; to not compromise my time to theirs. It is the need to be alone that keeps me from living my life the way most people do. But part of me does not want to change.

    3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

    Depends on the day. I'm not one of those people to use suffering as proof for the non-existence of God, because suffering is a natural part of life. I just think God (the biblical one) goes against every form of logic. However, the idea that everything happens because the universe follows laws that can be captured with a few mathematical equations, seems fishy to me. Therefore, I am not against the idea of intelligent design, and Agnostic Theist would make the most sense for myself.

    4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

    I hate the idea of patriotism, because people on both sides are dying. Nobody wins a war, you just lose less. And, in my opinion, a country is not worth dying for. I'd rather flee or risk prison than kill or be killed for a piece of land.

    Power is what people give to others. It can always be taken away.

    5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

    Beliefs and human nature, because even though broad generalizations are always apt to appear in these discussions, it is still a diverse and complex topic that pertains to existence, desires, and the beings that keep the world going.

    6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

    No, I am not interested in those topics.

    I am focused on my imperfections, which many other people fail to see.

    7. What do you think of daily chores?

    Boring.

    8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

    I like surreal works. I'm not very attached to reality, yet I do live in it. Imo, there is no reason for Rom-coms and such films to exist, because love can be experienced.

    Examples of works I love: Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Star Wars, Let the Right One In, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Pan's Labryinth, Harry Potter, etc.

    Now despite the list above, I'd say George RR Martin is a Godsend. He doesn't believe characters are wholly good or evil, isn't afraid to kill off people, and treats romance without the rose-colored glasses. More writers like him, please.

    9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

    I don't cry much. I'd say that I get watery eyed over sad things. I'm no different than other people in this regard.

    I smile at silly/stupid things I find funny.

    For example:

    Tyler, the Creator & Earl Sweatshirt: Hot Ass Beat Clap - YouTube

    10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

    I want to feel like I belong, but at the same time I'm an alien to everything normal.

    11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

    Laziness and self-esteem issues (by 'people' I'm referring to the people closest to me)

    I dislike how sensitive I am, as if I'm designed to be the most feminine guy on the planet.

    12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

    Intelligence and deep insight.

    I like how non-judgmental I can be to those whom society deems weird.

    13. In what areas of your life would you like help?

    Confidence, independence, socialization, and how to properly complete mundane tasks.

    14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

    For most of my life, because my mother is smothering and brainwashed me as a child to think strangers want to hurt me.

    Depression and anxiety.

    15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

    Dislike: Arrogance, extroverted, obnoxious/nosy, antagonizing, rude, judgmental, shallow, 'bros' and such social leeches.

    Like: Artistic, esoteric, original, creative, kind/gentle, humble, giving, open-minded, understanding.

    I get along with anyone who makes the effort.

    16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

    Part of me wants it because I feel like I have to, but part of me says I don't want it. I don't mind watching porn or fantasizing, but I do not want to be a part of any sexual acts.

    I'd want a partner to be all those things I said in question 15 for the 'like' section.

    17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

    Education, safety, and socialization. I'd take every measure possible to keep the child happy and healthy.

    18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

    Ask them why they feel that way. If the answer is stupid, either point it out or leave it alone, depending on my mood. If it makes sense, then just say "oh okay. I get you."

    19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

    I don't really have one. I can fit in if I have to, even though it may seem unnatural.

    People are people; complex and diverse with common biological functions.

    Media manipulation.

    20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?

    Friends = lack of privacy and having to play a role.

    I would choose them based on common interests if I wanted to socialize.

    21. How do you behave around strangers?

    Timid and awkward. I'm extremely shy.

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    Your enneagram is in the 4 - 5 area. I think most of your description points to 4w5. Your MBTI is INFJ.
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    Your enneagram is in the 4 - 5 area. I think most of your description points to 4w5. Your MBTI is INFJ.
    I had a feeling that might be (narrowed it down from IXFX to INF), but still I have to ask, how do you know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lain View Post
    0. Is there anything that may affect the way you answer the questions? For example, a stressful time, mental illness, medications, special life circumstances? Other useful information includes sex, age, and current state of mind.

    Anxiety, depression, and paranoia attributed to a serotonin deficiency (currently taking Citalopram)

    1. What is beauty? What is love?

    Beauty is a shallow concept; another category for people to be sorted into. It is programmed in our psyche to be desirable. However, depending on a person's perspective, it can be anything.

    Love is something (in my opinion) that is settled on. We do not choose our family, our friends are narrowed according to where we live (our true friends, not the online ones), and when two people cannot have who they want, they go for the next best thing.

    2. What are your most important values?

    My values depend on the situation and which perspective I am seeing. I'd say that the one, never-changing value I treasure is privacy. It is the reason I do not want friends; to not compromise my time to theirs. It is the need to be alone that keeps me from living my life the way most people do. But part of me does not want to change.

    3. Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

    Depends on the day. I'm not one of those people to use suffering as proof for the non-existence of God, because suffering is a natural part of life. I just think God (the biblical one) goes against every form of logic. However, the idea that everything happens because the universe follows laws that can be captured with a few mathematical equations, seems fishy to me. Therefore, I am not against the idea of intelligent design, and Agnostic Theist would make the most sense for myself.

    4. Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

    I hate the idea of patriotism, because people on both sides are dying. Nobody wins a war, you just lose less. And, in my opinion, a country is not worth dying for. I'd rather flee or risk prison than kill or be killed for a piece of land.

    Power is what people give to others. It can always be taken away.

    5. What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

    Beliefs and human nature, because even though broad generalizations are always apt to appear in these discussions, it is still a diverse and complex topic that pertains to existence, desires, and the beings that keep the world going.

    6. Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

    No, I am not interested in those topics.

    I am focused on my imperfections, which many other people fail to see.

    7. What do you think of daily chores?

    Boring.

    8. Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

    I like surreal works. I'm not very attached to reality, yet I do live in it. Imo, there is no reason for Rom-coms and such films to exist, because love can be experienced.

    Examples of works I love: Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Star Wars, Let the Right One In, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Pan's Labryinth, Harry Potter, etc.

    Now despite the list above, I'd say George RR Martin is a Godsend. He doesn't believe characters are wholly good or evil, isn't afraid to kill off people, and treats romance without the rose-colored glasses. More writers like him, please.

    9. What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?

    I don't cry much. I'd say that I get watery eyed over sad things. I'm no different than other people in this regard.

    I smile at silly/stupid things I find funny.

    For example:

    Tyler, the Creator & Earl Sweatshirt: Hot Ass Beat Clap - YouTube

    10. Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

    I want to feel like I belong, but at the same time I'm an alien to everything normal.

    11. What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

    Laziness and self-esteem issues (by 'people' I'm referring to the people closest to me)

    I dislike how sensitive I am, as if I'm designed to be the most feminine guy on the planet.

    12. What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

    Intelligence and deep insight.

    I like how non-judgmental I can be to those whom society deems weird.

    13. In what areas of your life would you like help?

    Confidence, independence, socialization, and how to properly complete mundane tasks.

    14. Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

    For most of my life, because my mother is smothering and brainwashed me as a child to think strangers want to hurt me.

    Depression and anxiety.

    15. What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

    Dislike: Arrogance, extroverted, obnoxious/nosy, antagonizing, rude, judgmental, shallow, 'bros' and such social leeches.

    Like: Artistic, esoteric, original, creative, kind/gentle, humble, giving, open-minded, understanding.

    I get along with anyone who makes the effort.

    16. How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

    Part of me wants it because I feel like I have to, but part of me says I don't want it. I don't mind watching porn or fantasizing, but I do not want to be a part of any sexual acts.

    I'd want a partner to be all those things I said in question 15 for the 'like' section.

    17. If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

    Education, safety, and socialization. I'd take every measure possible to keep the child happy and healthy.

    18. A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

    Ask them why they feel that way. If the answer is stupid, either point it out or leave it alone, depending on my mood. If it makes sense, then just say "oh okay. I get you."

    19. Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.

    I don't really have one. I can fit in if I have to, even though it may seem unnatural.

    People are people; complex and diverse with common biological functions.

    Media manipulation.

    20. How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?

    Friends = lack of privacy and having to play a role.

    I would choose them based on common interests if I wanted to socialize.

    21. How do you behave around strangers?

    Timid and awkward. I'm extremely shy.

    hey there, my fellow INFJ!
    Gosh, we are so similar in every ways. Are you my twin?

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    hey there, my fellow INFJ!
    Gosh, we are so similar in every ways. Are you my twin?
    Haha. I think my biggest doubt is that INFJ's are so rare. I don't imagine I'm that special.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lain View Post
    I had a feeling that might be (narrowed it down from IXFX to INF), but still I have to ask, how do you know?
    I don't know, per se. I deduced it from your description. You report severe introversion, a need for privacy, and a-social tendencies. Your Intuition is obvious. But it was hard to differentiate INFJ from INFP, or even INTP, in your description. This -
    "Like: Artistic, esoteric, original, creative, kind/gentle, humble, giving, open-minded, understanding."
    was very helpful. INFP remains a secondary possibility. The difference between INFJ and INFP can hinge upon simple things. INFJ may go more towards the various artistic disciplines while INFP more toward language arts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    I don't know, per se. I deduced it from your description. You report severe introversion, a need for privacy, and a-social tendencies. Your Intuition is obvious. But it was hard to differentiate INFJ from INFP, or even INTP, in your description. This -
    "Like: Artistic, esoteric, original, creative, kind/gentle, humble, giving, open-minded, understanding."
    was very helpful. INFP remains a secondary possibility. The difference between INFJ and INFP can hinge upon simple things. INFJ may go more towards the various artistic disciplines while INFP more toward language arts.
    Sorry I didn't mean it like that. I was just wondering why you thought so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lain View Post
    Sorry I didn't mean it like that. I was just wondering why you thought so.
    I still have questions about some of your responses, such as, "In what areas of your life would you like help? Confidence, independence, socialization, and how to properly complete mundane tasks." This sounds more INFP to me, simply because lacking things like confidence an independence is more of an INFP quality, while INFJs aren't lacking in independence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    I still have questions about some of your responses, such as, "In what areas of your life would you like help? Confidence, independence, socialization, and how to properly complete mundane tasks." This sounds more INFP to me, simply because lacking things like confidence an independence is more of an INFP quality, while INFJs aren't lacking in independence.

    I actually saw quite a bit of Ni-Fe in his answers. And the conversations that he talked about, his hobbies etc, all indicates that he uses Ni-Fe.
    He also describes himself as non-judgemental, INFJs are dominant perceivers, which explains his non-judgementalness. Whereas INFPs who often appear easygoing on the surface are actually much more judgemental than INFJ, they are dominant judgers after all. And the way he described beauty, he has a very open-ended way of viewing beauty, he is a perceiving dom.
    And lacking things like confidence and independence only indicates that he has anxiety, it doesn't really indicate whether he is INFJ or INFP.

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    I still have questions about some of your responses, such as, "In what areas of your life would you like help? Confidence, independence, socialization, and how to properly complete mundane tasks." This sounds more INFP to me, simply because lacking things like confidence an independence is more of an INFP quality, while INFJs aren't lacking in independence.
    What questions would you like me to answer?

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