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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    Don't know anything about Hard so I can't comment. Consider Sparrow.

    Forget enneagram for a second. You don't Te-dom. Nor do you Si it up. You also don't Fi it up and since that should be an ESTJs knee jerk inferior, it too should be strongly evident.

    How can you be an ESTJ when you don't display any of the functions?
    IME I display all of those functions. My videos are probably a better indicator of my real-life Te than my posts here. And the folks like @Jennifer who have met me irl can back me up there too.

    Earlier today I was cripplingly Si, actually. Was so stressed that I couldn't comprehend my coworker's instructions regarding a report I had to write, unless it fit into the report template I was using.

    Me: "I don't understand what you want from this. I can't use a corporation template or a foundation template because this report is about three different things, none of which are corporations OR foundations. This one is a SUBSIDIARY of a corporation, so I don't know whether I should include information about the parent company?? The format of the template means it has to be about one thing, so does that mean I have to write three reports?? Or just one with added sections? How many added sections would be required?? None of this makes sense with the template."
    Coworker: "I don't know why you're confused. Just write the background information."
    Me: "BUT THE TEMPLATE."
    (Etc. It got resolved.)
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    She was raised by INTP and INFJs, right?

    I think that likely did some tempering.
    "Hey Capa -- We're only stardust." ~ "Sunshine"

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    Not to question Jennifer's typing abilities but typical NT, I wanted to see your typing clip, found the post but the clip had been removed.

    Since I only have your forum posts, the Te ain't domming for me.

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    I've met a couple of STJs that were raised by hippies and for hippies. They kind of ring similarly like our EJCC. I buy ESTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    Not to question Jennifer's typing abilities but typical NT, I wanted to see your typing clip, found the post but the clip had been removed.

    Since I only have your forum posts, the Te ain't domming for me.
    Two relatively recent (2013) videos 4 U:

    Pre- hair dye and glasses

    Post- hair dye and glasses
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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    Not to question Jennifer's typing abilities but typical NT, I wanted to see your typing clip, found the post but the clip had been removed.
    If it helps (although I know you plan to watch the vids), I just listed all the types and crossed off everything I know she isn't.
    I crossed off all the other types as ones I am sure she isn't. Process of elimination, you know...

    I have some other ESTJ friends of both genders, and I would call her the most muted ESTJ I know, in terms of the median. The Te is noticeable in our interactions (she's noticeably more Te than me when we're together; she's not Ti, she's not an F, and her Te is stronger than her Fi anyway, hence she's Te), but it's why I see it likely that her parents and upbringing made her one of the less in-your-face ESTJ's I've met. I don't experience any of her functions as extreme. She's rather unique out of all the people I have met.
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    If it helps, my Dad is INTP and my Mom was INFJ, just like EJCC. Some of my type-savvy friends theorized that the reason I am not as abrasive as so many INTJs are is that I grew up in that intuitive Ti-Fe household, where Te-brashness and Fi-whininess get shot down very quickly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Two relatively recent (2013) videos 4 U:

    Pre- hair dye and glasses

    Post- hair dye and glasses
    Links keep going wonky on me since the recent update but I'm currently watching the one labeled Socionics Qs. Hope that's the first link since it sent me within a page of this clip.

    Yeah, there's Te in this clip, especially the last five minutes. And yes, formative environment has had huge impact on you, creating the dissonance of being direct vs. being nurtured to be sensitive to others. I'd like to see a clip of you in say, ten years time when you've moved away from your formative influence and manage to get into politics, particularly foreign affairs. Once you get your legs and some breathing room, you'll be swinging your war hammer like other Te-doms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    If it helps (although I know you plan to watch the vids), I just listed all the types and crossed off everything I know she isn't.
    I crossed off all the other types as ones I am sure she isn't. Process of elimination, you know...

    I have some other ESTJ friends of both genders, and I would call her the most muted ESTJ I know, in terms of the median. The Te is noticeable in our interactions (she's noticeably more Te than me when we're together; she's not Ti, she's not an F, and her Te is stronger than her Fi anyway, hence she's Te), but it's why I see it likely that her parents and upbringing made her one of the less in-your-face ESTJ's I've met. I don't experience any of her functions as extreme. She's rather unique out of all the people I have met.
    Yeah, noticed this in the clip she linked. Te is evident there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andante View Post
    Once you get your legs and some breathing room, you'll be swinging your war hammer like other Te-doms.
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