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Am I a 6w5 INTJ?

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I consistently score as an INTJ. I consistently score as a 6w5. Is there most likely some sort of error, or are these truly my types? I've only taken online tests, so the accuracy is perhaps questionable. I will answer any questions.
 
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I consistently score as an INTJ. I consistently score as a 6w5. From what I've read this combination is extremely rare. Is there most likely some sort of error, or are these truly my types? I've only taken online tests, so the accuracy is perhaps questionable. I will answer any questions.

Could you do this test and paste the results please?

Free Enneagram Personality Test
 

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I consistently score as an INTJ. I consistently score as a 6w5. From what I've read this combination is extremely rare. Is there most likely some sort of error, or are these truly my types? I've only taken online tests, so the accuracy is perhaps questionable. I will answer any questions.
[MENTION=5627]BlackCat[/MENTION] says it's common

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Apparently I was given false information about the rarity.


Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||||||||| 78%
Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||| 50%
Type 3 Image Focus |||||||||||||||||||| 86%
Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||||||| 62%
Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||||||||||| 90%
Type 7 Adventurousness |||| 18%
Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||||||||| 70%
Type 9 Calmness |||||||||| 38%

type score type behavior motivation
5 22 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
6 22 I must be secure and safe to survive.
3 21 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
1 19 I must be perfect and good to survive.
8 17 I must be strong and in control to survive.
4 15 I must be unique/different to survive.
2 12 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
9 9 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
7 4 I must be fun and entertained to survive.

Your main type is Type 5
Your variant stacking is spsosx
Your level of health is very low, i.e. very unhealthy

This is the first time I've scored as a 5, or taken that test.
 

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Apparently I was given false information about the rarity.

type score type behavior motivation
5 22 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
6 22 I must be secure and safe to survive.
3 21 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
1 19 I must be perfect and good to survive.
8 17 I must be strong and in control to survive.
4 15 I must be unique/different to survive.
2 12 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
9 9 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
7 4 I must be fun and entertained to survive.

Your main type is Type 5
Your variant stacking is spsosx
Your level of health is very low, i.e. very unhealthy

This is the first time I've scored as a 5, or taken that test.

6w5 (44), 3w4 (36), 1w2 (31), 8w9 (26) = Te Fe Ni Se. Sorry can't decide.

If I had to guess I'd say you are an ENxJ, with leaning more towards ENTJ.
 

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No no no, I'm extremely introverted. I have no friends, I'm very uncomfortable in social situations, and I spend a ton of time in my own head. Where did you get the E and the possible F from?
 
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No no no, I'm extremely introverted. I have no friends, I'm very uncomfortable in social situations, and I spend a ton of time in my own head. Where did you get the E and the possible F from?

Extroverts can have no friends, have social anxiety, and can spend a lot of time in their own heads.

Especially if they're "very unhealthy" as your test results suggest.
 

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No no no, I'm extremely introverted. I have no friends, I'm very uncomfortable in social situations, and I spend a ton of time in my own head. Where did you get the E and the possible F from?

The belowgiven is my own theory is not universally applicable so take it with a grain of salt:

Your type 3 and 4 scores are quite high. Enneagram types 2,3 and 4 are known as the heart triad and related F function. Enneagram 3 score implies that you want to impress people socially but you say you are uncomfortable in social situations, which seems to conflict with each other. The Fe comes from your 3w4, i.e. desire to impress people.

Your enneagram 6 score seems to as high as your 5. Enneagrams 5,6 and 7 are located in the head triad which I equate with thinking functions. 6s desire for security I believe manifests itself as Te. Te is about material and business world and is also related with utility value of objects and living beings. A type 6 person would keep checking whether he's valued by the Te (business?) framework, i.e., whether he's regarded by others as useful so that he won't be discarded and he'll be protected by the system.

So I assumed your high 5 and 6 scores must mean that your strongest function is either Ti or Te. So I guessed you must be Te-Ni-Se-Fi = ENTJ based on your results. High 3w4 score however means you feel too much about how you are valued by others as a person, which doesn't seem to fit with ENTJ.

Another test in a different system here to check it:

Socionics Tests
 

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Extroverts can have no friends, have social anxiety, and can spend a lot of time in their own heads.

Especially if they're "very unhealthy" as your test results suggest.

I see. Well, I'm open to the possibility. As a young child I was much more outgoing, but ever since adolescence I've been an extreme introvert.
 

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The belowgiven is my own theory is not universally applicable so take it with a grain of salt:

Your type 3 and 4 scores are quite high. Enneagram types 2,3 and 4 are known as the heart triad and related F function. Enneagram 3 score implies that you want to impress people socially but you say you are uncomfortable in social situations, which seems to conflict with each other. The Fe comes from your 3w4, i.e. desire to impress people.

Your enneagram 6 score seems to as high as your 5. Enneagrams 5,6 and 7 are located in the head triad which I equate with thinking functions. 6s desire for security I believe manifests itself as Te. Te is about material and business world and is also related with utility value of objects and living beings. A type 6 person would keep checking whether he's valued by the Te (business?) framework, i.e., whether he's regarded by others as useful so that he won't be discarded and he'll be protected by the system.

So I assumed your high 5 and 6 scores must mean that your strongest function is either Ti or Te. So I guessed you must be Te-Ni-Se-Fi = ENTJ based on your results. High 3w4 score however means you feel too much about how you are valued by others as a person, which doesn't seem to fit with ENTJ.

Another test in a different system here to check it:

Socionics Tests

Interesting. Yes, I do want to impress people socially, and I'm very aware of what people think about me. However, I'm also socially incompetent. I'm taking that test now.

Test Results

Your Sociotype: LII-1Ti (INTj)

Using introverted thinking as his base function and extroverted intuition as his creative, the LII is adept at creating a concept of reality through the synthesis and application of preformulated principles and rules. When formulating new principles, the LII methodically analyzes new information, taking the salient aspects and discarding the extraneous. Staying within the boundaries of his principles, the LII is capable of generating new ideas and possibilities of how the world could work. At its best, this ability gives the LII an aura of confidence and insightfulness into areas of abstraction and possibility that many other types don't have; at its worst, this ability may lead the LII to possibilities so impractical or unreachable that he is perceived as others to be out of touch with reality. Additionally, the LIIs inclination for deep isolated thoughts often leaves him disconnected from societal interaction--as if he is constantly an observer but never a participant. Learn more about the LII here! - See more at: Socionics Tests

Other Possible Types

ILI (INTp): 96% as likely as LII.
LIE (ENTj): 78% as likely as LII.
LSI (ISTj): 76% as likely as LII.
- See more at: Socionics Tests

Granted, I was uncertain about a lot of the questions, especially the visual section.
 
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Interesting. Yes, I do want to impress people socially, and I'm very aware of what people think about me. However, I'm also socially incompetent. I'm taking that test now.

Test Results

Your Sociotype: LII-1Ti (INTj)

Using introverted thinking as his base function and extroverted intuition as his creative, the LII is adept at creating a concept of reality through the synthesis and application of preformulated principles and rules. When formulating new principles, the LII methodically analyzes new information, taking the salient aspects and discarding the extraneous. Staying within the boundaries of his principles, the LII is capable of generating new ideas and possibilities of how the world could work. At its best, this ability gives the LII an aura of confidence and insightfulness into areas of abstraction and possibility that many other types don't have; at its worst, this ability may lead the LII to possibilities so impractical or unreachable that he is perceived as others to be out of touch with reality. Additionally, the LIIs inclination for deep isolated thoughts often leaves him disconnected from societal interaction--as if he is constantly an observer but never a participant. Learn more about the LII here! - See more at: Socionics Tests

Other Possible Types

ILI (INTp): 96% as likely as LII.
LIE (ENTj): 78% as likely as LII.
LSI (ISTj): 76% as likely as LII.
- See more at: Socionics Tests

Granted, I was uncertain about a lot of the questions, especially the visual section.

Your test result suggests you are a socionics INTj, which is normally equated to MBTI INTP. However, I believe socionics and MBTI types are directly correlated so I believe your result implies MBTI INTJ.

However, I also believe that you are sitting on the verge of INTP and ENTJ. Are you younger than 20? If yes, your type may have not been settled yet and may be shifting back and forth between the two.
 

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No. I'm twenty, turning twenty-one soon. As I said, I've been scoring as an INTJ for several years. I've never scored as an INTP or an ENTJ.
 

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No. I'm twenty, turning twenty-one soon. As I said, I've been scoring as an INTJ for several years. I've never scored as an INTP or an ENTJ.

Sorry, I am short of any other ideas.
 

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I appreciate the effort. I'm most likely just mental.
 

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Interesting. Yes, I do want to impress people socially, and I'm very aware of what people think about me. However, I'm also socially incompetent. I'm taking that test now.

Test Results

Your Sociotype: LII-1Ti (INTj)

Using introverted thinking as his base function and extroverted intuition as his creative, the LII is adept at creating a concept of reality through the synthesis and application of preformulated principles and rules. When formulating new principles, the LII methodically analyzes new information, taking the salient aspects and discarding the extraneous. Staying within the boundaries of his principles, the LII is capable of generating new ideas and possibilities of how the world could work. At its best, this ability gives the LII an aura of confidence and insightfulness into areas of abstraction and possibility that many other types don't have; at its worst, this ability may lead the LII to possibilities so impractical or unreachable that he is perceived as others to be out of touch with reality. Additionally, the LIIs inclination for deep isolated thoughts often leaves him disconnected from societal interaction--as if he is constantly an observer but never a participant. Learn more about the LII here! - See more at: Socionics Tests

Other Possible Types

ILI (INTp): 96% as likely as LII.
LIE (ENTj): 78% as likely as LII.
LSI (ISTj): 76% as likely as LII.
- See more at: Socionics Tests

Granted, I was uncertain about a lot of the questions, especially the visual section.

The visual section is part of an in-the-works theory that is highly controversial known as Visual Identification (to type others). The people you chose were probably used to estimate what Quadra you lie in, or something of the sort.

Logical Intuitive Introtratim corresponds to the JCF INTP (Ti-Ne-Si-Fe) with Lead Ti, Creative Ne, Mobilizing Si, and Suggestive Fe.

Keep in mind however, that Personality Tests themselves are relatively inaccurate due to the test taker's biases like the Forer Effect, so it might help to learn each of the functions and observe how they operate in yourself.

One key starting point might be the Vulnerable Function of Sociotypes, where the LII's (INTj/INTP) downfall is Extroverted Sensation and the ILI's (INTp/INTJ, and also your next closest type according to the test) downfall is Extroverted Ethics (a.k.a Extroverted Feeling).
 

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Seems that there is no easy answer. Judging from what I'm reading, I have very poor Extroverted Feeling. I keep a poker face almost constantly. I don't laugh at jokes. I'm not very polite. I do have a desire to connect with others, but it is not evidenced by expressions of warmth (or displeasure) and self-disclosure. I don't have the best Extroverted Sensing, but it isn't horrible.
 

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We won't get much adequate information just from tests. But you are vibing me as a definite combination of 5 and 6, with INTJ being obvious.

This is from the members only section of the Enneagram Institute regarding type misidentifications-



What do you think after reading that?
 

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I'd say I identify more with Six. I often do not trust that my mind can come to a meaningful conclusion on its own. I much prefer to find something or someone to trust, hence why I posted this thread. I also have very strong and radical political opinions. I seldom voice these opinions because I know I'll be negatively judged for them.

Though I did drop out of high school, so I don't identify with "the world of academia being my realm".
 
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I consistently score as an INTJ. I consistently score as a 6w5. From what I've read this combination is extremely rare. Is there most likely some sort of error, or are these truly my types? I've only taken online tests, so the accuracy is perhaps questionable. I will answer any questions.

It's not an extremely rare combination, so the premise behind your question is invalid.
 
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