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    Here is the enneagram results of the test, I noticed that I scored high in type 9 and then high in type 2 and then it was a general mix beyond that

    Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||| 42%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||||||| 70%
    Type 3 Image Focus |||||||||||| 42%
    Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||| 50%
    Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||| 50%
    Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||| 46%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||||| 30%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||| 34%
    Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||||||| 74%





    type score type behavior motivation
    9 18 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
    2 17 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
    4 12 I must be unique/different to survive.
    5 12 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
    6 11 I must be secure and safe to survive.
    1 10 I must be perfect and good to survive.
    3 10 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
    8 8 I must be strong and in control to survive.
    7 7 I must be fun and entertained to survive.




    Your main type is Type 9
    Your variant stacking is so/sp/sx
    Your level of health is average



    Your main type is which ever behavior you utilize most and/or prefer. Your variant reflects your scoring profile on all nine types: so = social variant (compliant, friendly), sx = sexual variant (assertive, intense), sp = self preservation variant (withdrawn, security seeking). For info on the flaws of the Enneagram system click here.

    I agree with the results that are described here.

    Now I tend to identify with very peaceful and yet deep feeling types of people, like Belldandy of Ah my goddess, or perhaps of Miyuki off of Lucky Star, I suppose. I cannot think of that many male characters right off the top of my head that I really identify with.

    I get a great deal of distress from conflict between people that I really care about or when I see those that I care about becoming quite down on themselves (it brings out the Fe, I guess and I just feel that I must cheer them up and help them in their issue they are dealing with no matter how long it takes. I also get a great deal of stress from dealing with problems requiring quick hand eye coordination and fast reflexes and responses, so I struggle to deal with being clumsy and slow in situations such as biking or driving or fighting or cooking in a fast food setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaeologist View Post
    Here is the enneagram results of the test, I noticed that I scored high in type 9 and then high in type 2 and then it was a general mix beyond that

    Type 1 Perfectionism |||||||||||| 42%
    Type 2 Helpfulness |||||||||||||||| 70%
    Type 3 Image Focus |||||||||||| 42%
    Type 4 Individualism |||||||||||| 50%
    Type 5 Intellectualism |||||||||||| 50%
    Type 6 Security Focus |||||||||||| 46%
    Type 7 Adventurousness |||||| 30%
    Type 8 Aggressiveness |||||||||| 34%
    Type 9 Calmness |||||||||||||||||| 74%

    type score type behavior motivation
    9 18 I must maintain peace/calm to survive.
    2 17 I must be helpful and caring to survive.
    4 12 I must be unique/different to survive.
    5 12 I must be knowledgeable to survive.
    6 11 I must be secure and safe to survive.
    1 10 I must be perfect and good to survive.
    3 10 I must be impressive and attractive to survive.
    8 8 I must be strong and in control to survive.
    7 7 I must be fun and entertained to survive.

    I agree with the results that are described here.

    Now I tend to identify with very peaceful and yet deep feeling types of people, like Belldandy of Ah my goddess, or perhaps of Miyuki off of Lucky Star, I suppose. I cannot think of that many male characters right off the top of my head that I really identify with.

    I get a great deal of distress from conflict between people that I really care about or when I see those that I care about becoming quite down on themselves (it brings out the Fe, I guess and I just feel that I must cheer them up and help them in their issue they are dealing with no matter how long it takes. I also get a great deal of stress from dealing with problems requiring quick hand eye coordination and fast reflexes and responses, so I struggle to deal with being clumsy and slow in situations such as biking or driving or fighting or cooking in a fast food setting.
    9w1 score = 28 2w1 score = 27 5w4 score = 24 which means according to my own theory Si - Fe - Ti = ISFJ

    Also your lowest score seems to be 7 which I equate with Ne, which means you are an Ne-inferior (i.e. your 4th function is Ne), which seems to fit with ISxJ.

    Your enenagram 1 score is low too, which I relate to Ni, so it also fits with your type being an ISxJ.

    Check this ISFJ description (and the strength weakness link there) http://www.16personalities.com/isfj-personality

    One difference between INFJ and ISFJ would be that ISFJs' S function is higher in the stack than INFJs'. So INFJ would have relatively less aptitude in S type activities. ISFJ would still be able to use dominant Se function (i.e. inverse of his\her dominant Si) when need be.

    Se is about impulsivity, rage, ability to deal with high sensory data, robustness of body, good use of body language etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaeologist View Post
    So Hard, what do you think I am then? Rather than challenging yeghor's ideas, do you have an opinion as to who I am type wise? I gave a lot of info out...
    That's kind of the problem. Telling Yeghor to take his "theories" elsewhere sort of lends to one assuming I'll type someone. I know the theory, and I know when someone is blatently applying it wrong (as he is), but usually I want to stop there. To be pefectly honest though, I find it to be quite tiresome and I don't enjoy doing it. That said, I see the Fe/Ti axis fairly readily, and I do not see either as the lead. Further, I don't really see much evidence either way for Ni/Se, or Si/Ne. I see a slightly preference for the former, but not by all that much. I'm confidant in saying IxFJ, with INFJ being more likely of two of them.

    I do not see Fi as a lead being possible, nor do I see any sign of Te being inferior.
    MBTI: ExxJ tetramer
    Functions: Fe > Te > Ni > Se > Si > Ti > Fi > Ne
    Enneagram: 1w2 - 3w4 - 6w5 (The Taskmaster) | sp/so
    Socionics: β-E dimer | -
    Big 5: slOaI
    Temperament: Choleric/Melancholic
    Alignment: Lawful Neutral
    External Perception: Nohari and Johari


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    That seems reasonable, and I don't think im too much a sensor on any test I have ever really taken so I think I am an INFJ most likely of all of the types. Thank you Hard for helping me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaeologist View Post
    That seems reasonable, and I don't think im too much a sensor on any test I have ever really taken so I think I am an INFJ most likely of all of the types. Thank you Hard for helping me
    Yeah sorting out the S/N axis is always a little challenging in practice in my opinion. How one absorbs information (which is what N/S does) generally doesn't show up on paper clearly for everyone. I mean, sometimes it does, but other times it does not. Much more so if it's introverted in orientation. It appears over long periods of time in the overall "quality" of the person. FWIW though, a test result can on occasion be misleading. I will test as ESTJ on MBTI tests (close on both the S/N and F/T axis) more often than not, and there are some sensor types here that will test as intuitive. It's a good starting point, but not the end all be all answer.
    MBTI: ExxJ tetramer
    Functions: Fe > Te > Ni > Se > Si > Ti > Fi > Ne
    Enneagram: 1w2 - 3w4 - 6w5 (The Taskmaster) | sp/so
    Socionics: β-E dimer | -
    Big 5: slOaI
    Temperament: Choleric/Melancholic
    Alignment: Lawful Neutral
    External Perception: Nohari and Johari


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    I see, that could explain why it is hard to tell whether or not I use Ni dominantly since it is hard to tell whether one uses sensing or intuition, and doubly so if you are trying to identify introverted intuition.

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    Do you see what is hypothetically plausible in the environment under ideal circumstances and with ideal resources? Or do you see what is realistically feasible in the environment under its current conditions and the resources that are currently available in the present?

    Do you see the dynamic circumstances that cause the current conditions in the environment, the course the environment is on, and how the environment affects your ideas/insights? Or do you see the dynamic features of the environment in the present moment and its physical impact on your own well-being (physical and mental state)?

    Examples:

    Do you notice details and surroundings based on how they affect you or how you can affect them, i.e. "I remember that if I aim the ball just right, I can score a strike, due to the fact that I've done it before in that manner and have gotten strikes" (environment affects you) or "With this bowling ball and those pins, I can score a strike if I aim the ball just right" (you affect environment)

    Do you hypothesize about what you could be doing hypothetically with ideal surroundings and resources or how the hypothetical dynamic circumstances in the environment affect you, i.e. "If I were to have a bowling ball and some pins (and probably a Bowling Alley), I bet I could score a strike if I were to aim the ball just right" (you affect environment) or "Due to the fact that scoring a strike is possible, there must be a particular angle to aim the ball that would yield a strike once the ball is cast at that angle." (environment affects you)

    Of course, the bowling ball example is usually flawed due to the fact that people don't usually think this hard about a simple physical process like Bowling, but accurately explains the thought process. These are just for the perception functions for now.

    Also, @Hard's criticism is right, probably because @yeghor is relatively delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaeologist View Post
    I see, that could explain why it is hard to tell whether or not I use Ni dominantly since it is hard to tell whether one uses sensing or intuition, and doubly so if you are trying to identify introverted intuition.

    you should probably be made aware though, that there are numerious competing sub-theories and definitions.

    for many (let's call that MBTI - myber brigs type indicator), Ni is the Si for the intellectual - the abstract thinker showing competence at pattern recognition.
    for others (lets call that JCF - jung cognitive functions), Ni and Si do not play in the same realm. everyone can see patterns, infact jungian Si is even described as particularly good at extrapolating repetition on-wards. likewise, any type can be an intellectual, and jugian Si - being the chief function of folklore - can delve in the richness of academia, literature and poetry better then any other function. but the mind of an Ni dom doesn't see patterns in the details it experiences, it is possessed by the metaphors and meanings themselves as the basic of the experience - a condensed source of undifferentiated information slowly unraveling & creating a world view anew with each turn - facts and details aren't the source of the thoughts but rather loosely based footholds for them to sit on.

    read this:


    would you be able to identify with that woman? is your base experience composed of unraveling intangibles dominating your psyche?

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    Hey, guys,

    I've moved the bickering about typological theories to Off-Topic posts. I know it's fun to debate this stuff, but let's do it outside of someone's "type-me" thread. Feel free to say you disagree with another's interpretations - that's entirely normal. It just shouldn't turn into a debate about why theory X is right or wrong.

    Thanks,

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    A discussion is two people sharing their understanding, even when they disagree.

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    I do not identify with the woman that you described, I do not have my base experience as being composed of unraveling intagible thoughts and ideas. I think i am actually an ISFJ, since i am a fairly past oriented and traditional person. I love to reflect a lot and use my past experiences to guide my actions and then I seek to merge witha group. The reason i didn't identify with the ISFJ description is because i am not really a home maker type of person per se, but I love to study the past and see how it affects the present and I like to learn and gather knowledge as well. I do not have a grand vision of how things should be ideally though and I plan and use my current resources to achieve goals that are realistically feasible, I thought I used intution but actually, it was deep reflection of the past that I used in order to make plans for the future. I identify with the caring aspect of INFJ's and I identify with the knowledge seeking aspect, but I tend to seek knowledge to deposit and store it for use in future situations and for amusement and to help others. One of my life goals is to learn and gather knowledge and then use thatknowledge to help others that i care for. I practiced being a counselor as a summer job and I enjoyed that job a great deal since I was able to help other people. I am volunteering as a docent at a nearby historical site and giving tours of the site to locals and telling them about facts and details of the site. One of my dream jobs, before I decided to change based on resource issues was to become an archaeiologist and travel to other countries and examine those sites. I read and did research on the career of an archaeologist and I decided that i want to postpone that goal since they tend to make very little money and live in conditions that I am unsure I want to spend a lot of time in. I am considering instead studying international studies or geography and learning practical information about how to interact in other cultures and how to relate to them and understand them and perhaps get a job working in an international organization where I can do something practical to help other nations and my own understand each other better. I also enjoy studying about economics and enjoy playing strategy games and city builder games where i take the resources that I have and use those to develop my city and make it prosper and trade successfully and I find those as entertaining simulations of the kind of work I could actually see myself doing in 10-15 years possibly. Although I also am interested in being a missionary and providing practical care to others abroad, but I want to go on a trip abroad to a mission field before I confirm my decision (gather some form of experience to refer to in order to come to an effective and conclusive decision).

    I guess after some deep reflection and thought from the questions I have been asked, I can be confident in saying that I am an ISFJ, an imaginative ISFJ and a rather intellectual ISFJ, but still an ISFJ all the same. I think that is reasonable, so I am a type 9w1 5w4 2w3 ISFJ, I think that is a very reasonable and well supported conclusion based on reflection and taking into consideration the interests and facts that I know about myself.

    Thank you all for helping me officially come to this conclusion..

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