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    Quote Originally Posted by applebite View Post
    Thing that caught my eye, as well.

    Mind-mates.
    How so?

    I was pushed out of my comfort zone to work in retail but it isn't all that bad, I have to say. Dealing with customers is one thing but I've grown used to talking to people day in and day out.

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    mbti doesnt tell you who you are, you tell who you are.

    Mbti is just help for morons who have neither empathy nor fantasy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panrue View Post
    Haha, good. If I was an ENxJ I'd have an identity crisis, no joke lol. Would you say then I'm a more developed INTJ compared to the INTJs I know in real life? I'm just looking at my Fi, and it's substantially high. Perhaps it's got to do with the fact I'm a girl and have been pressured to act within societal norms? Heck, I'm not even sure anymore.

    Chess was never my thing, lol. So you don't need to worry about that bit. I'm skeptical about INTJ mostly because I'm a girl, and I read about how female INTJs are rather rare, but it can't be all like what people proclaim INTJ females to be? lol

    It's just that

    - I can empathize with others just fine
    - I don't agree with some of the mentalities other INTJs I know in real life have
    - I don't believe in "ends justify the means" which said INTJs seem to uphold
    - I'm not interested in hard sciences, which INTJs apparently are brilliant at?

    Maybe that's just a stereotype, but those are the few points that make me doubt I'm an actual INTJ lol.
    Well, yes they're just stereotypes, but then again, it was also stereotypes that lead me to believe INTJ is the best fit. Then again, by choosing the four letters you are choosing to be labelled a stereotype.

    Pick whichever you think suits you, and if you can't, pick a type out of a hat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Bubble View Post
    Well, yes they're just stereotypes, but then again, it was also stereotypes that lead me to believe INTJ is the best fit. Then again, by choosing the four letters you are choosing to be labelled a stereotype.

    Pick whichever you think suits you, and if you can't, pick a type out of a hat.
    Of course, I don't mean it that way. I appreciate your response, and I might just settle with INTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panrue View Post
    Of course, I don't mean it that way. I appreciate your response, and I might just settle with INTJ.
    I MIGHT just settle with intj. Thats nor relly decisive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I MIGHT just settle with intj. Thats nor relly decisive.
    Unfortunately no. I'm still a bit unconvinced, but INTJ does seem like the best fit at this time.

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    It's just that

    - I can empathize with others just fine
    - I don't agree with some of the mentalities other INTJs I know in real life have
    - I don't believe in "ends justify the means" which said INTJs seem to uphold
    - I'm not interested in hard sciences, which INTJs apparently are brilliant at?
    First, a deficiency of empathy isn't a sign of being an INTJ, a deficiency of empathy is a sign of a disorder. Empathy is present in all individuals without a disorder that harbors a deficiency in it, though certain personality types like the INTJ may not show it openly.

    Second, disagreeing with others' viewpoints is a side affect of being an independent entity, not a side affect of being a different personality type than someone else. Now, if you disagree with how individuals of a certain type operate and "think", then that warrants the thought that you might not be the same type as them.

    Third, "Ends justify the means" is actually more characteristic of the Extroverted Thinking function itself, and is much more pronounced in the ENTJ (a Result type*) than the INTJ (a Process type*). Though, again, "Ends justify the means" is a mantra held by certain individuals, and is not indicative of an entire personality type.

    Fourth, while INTJs may be more inclined toward the hard sciences, it is by no means a certain guarantee due to an exceeding amount of variables.

    My last point is that, while Myers Briggs appears to set you in little boxes and tell you who you are with a dogmatic set of characteristics, actual personality type simply points to how you operate as a person.

    *in Socionics, in which ENTJ = LIE and INTJ = ILI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Bubble View Post
    Say ENxJ if you want, @Evee.
    *Scoffs*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Now, if you disagree with how individuals of a certain type operate and "think", then that warrants the thought that you might not be the same type as them.
    This, I think. My INTJ friend operates from a complete Ni-Te, and while I think it might be due to the fact he hasn't developed his tertiary function yet, we often butt heads against each other when it comes to reaching a decision. I often act as the voice of reason, in terms of saying things like "What about others? What do they think? Are you sure your conclusions take into consideration human integrity / values / et cetera?" Though I agree he might be just an odd case that I've encountered.

    For example, he volunteers with non profit organizations to understand their organizational structure, make them more efficient, and is often seen working towards causes I know he's not personally invested in, for the sole purpose of "solving" the organizations' structures.

    Whereas, I volunteer from an alturistic perspective, enjoying the process of envisioning a goal, developing a long-term solution, bringing like-minded individuals to move towards the idealized solution together while growing along with the team along the way. I'm in it for more of a humanistic reason I would like to say, compared to him who is in it for "scientific" purposes.

    That's just one of the larger differences between him and I, and while I know it's not indicative of "all INTJs should behave this way" it's one of the issues that I often have against him, and one we argue about.

    Other than that, I agree with your statements. Most of the worries I have are the result of reading about INTJ behaviors, which tend to amount to stereotyping.. Thanks!

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