Not sure if I'm really introverted

[pfninja]

I thought I was introverted for a long time. I'm mostly quiet when I'm in conversations with other people. This is not due to nervousness though. It's just I don't know what to say. If I always knew what to say I know I will be very talkative.

So I started questioning whether I was really introverted. I'm very talkative if I'm familiar with the subject of the conversation, but I look like an idiot if I'm not familiar.

With regards to where I get my energy, I get energy when the conversation goes really well. But if I make a big social fau pax, it drains my energy and I have to be alone.

If I knew what to say most of the time I would be going out a lot and talking to everyone.

Do you guys think I'm an introvert or extrovert?

 

[infinite]

I thought I was introverted for a long time. I'm mostly quiet when I'm in conversations with other people. This is not due to nervousness though. It's just I don't know what to say. If I always knew what to say I know I will be very talkative.

So I started questioning whether I was really introverted. I'm very talkative if I'm familiar with the subject of the conversation, but I look like an idiot if I'm not familiar.

With regards to where I get my energy, I get energy when the conversation goes really well. But if I make a big social fau pax, it drains my energy and I have to be alone.

If I knew what to say most of the time I would be going out a lot and talking to everyone.

Do you guys think I'm an introvert or extrovert?

This will be a bad generalization maybe but extraverts I think more easily take the topics to talk about from the environment. So if you don't know what to say you likely aren't paying that much attention to stuff around you and stuff going on in the world in general. By this I mean, whatever you pay attention to is stuff you delve deep into. So you can get energy talking about those things. Extraverts on the other hand are more inclined to pay attention to several things superficially. I also think extraverts like to talk to several different people, or talk to someone and then move on and switch to talking to someone else and so on. Does that sort of socializing pattern energize you?

I hope this helps a bit... what do you think your type is btw? (Or which Ixxx and which Exxx type were you thinking of?)

 

[pfninja]

Well you're right. I'm not able to pay attention to a lot of things due to my ADD (self diagnosed). But i still think that i might be an extrovert in the sense that if i knew a lot about a lot of things and had lots of interesting stories, i have no doubt that i would behave like an extrovert, generally speaking.

Most of the tests i took say im an istj

 

[Kullervo]

You could just be shy. Extroversion/introversion is more measured by whether you enjoy spending time with other people and feel a need to socialise. Some Es mistype for this reason.

 

[prplchknz]

sounds like me. I am an introvert.

 

[pfninja]

I really dont think im shy. Whenever i meet people for the first time, i look them in the eye, shake their hand firmly, introduce myself and tell them it's nice to meet them, in a confident tone. But due to my ADD, inarticulateness, and not enough social experience, it all goes downhill from there.

 

[prplchknz]

I really dont think im shy. Whenever i meet people for the first time, i look them in the eye, shake their hand firmly, introduce myself and tell them it's nice to meet them, in a confident tone. But due to my ADD, inarticulateness, and not enough social experience, it all goes downhill from there.

no i'm not shy what you said doesn't describe shyness.

 

[pfninja]

Well people have different definitions of shyness. My personal definition of shyness is being hesitant in social situations. A shy person has something good to say but due to nervousness they hesitate to say it, leading to quietness.

I never said you were shy btw i was replying to silentmusings.

 

[prplchknz]

Well people have different definitions of shyness. My personal definition of shyness is being hesitant in social situations. A shy person has something good to say but due to nervousness they hesitate to say it, leading to quietness.

so you're not shy because you don't hesitate. not having something to say is not hesitating. hesitating would be you have something to say but don't

 

[pfninja]

so you're not shy because you don't hesitate. not having something to say is not hesitating. hesitating would be you have something to say but don't

Exactly. With my definition of shyness, im not shy.

I'm still open to hearing more people's opinions of whether im introverted or extroverted

 

[prplchknz]

Exactly. With my definition of shyness, im not shy.

I'm still open to hearing more people's opinions of whether im introverted or extroverted

yeah I said you weren't shy in the first place.

 

[pfninja]

yeah I said you weren't shy in the first place.

Silentmusings said i could be shy; i was replying to her. I should've used quotes.

 

[infinite]

Well you're right. I'm not able to pay attention to a lot of things due to my ADD (self diagnosed). But i still think that i might be an extrovert in the sense that if i knew a lot about a lot of things and had lots of interesting stories, i have no doubt that i would behave like an extrovert, generally speaking.

Most of the tests i took say im an istj

So do you relate to this: "I also think extraverts like to talk to several different people, or talk to someone and then move on and switch to talking to someone else and so on. Does that sort of socializing pattern energize you?"

 

[yeghor]

I thought I was introverted for a long time. I'm mostly quiet when I'm in conversations with other people. This is not due to nervousness though. It's just I don't know what to say. If I always knew what to say I know I will be very talkative.

So I started questioning whether I was really introverted. I'm very talkative if I'm familiar with the subject of the conversation, but I look like an idiot if I'm not familiar.

With regards to where I get my energy, I get energy when the conversation goes really well. But if I make a big social fau pax, it drains my energy and I have to be alone.

If I knew what to say most of the time I would be going out a lot and talking to everyone.

Do you guys think I'm an introvert or extrovert?

Introvert. You do not (or cannot) dominate your environment. You can engage if you have something in your internal reserves to contribute to the issue at thand.

 

[infinite]

Introvert. You do not (or cannot) dominate your environment. You can engage if you have something in your internal reserves to contribute to the issue at thand.

Sounds like a pretty good distinction here!

Btw what is it when I sometimes engage because I want to have influence over stuff when I'm actually interested? The thing is just that a lot of time I just can't be bothered about shit, I mean I usually don't get involved in the socializing shit. But I'm also not just a follower of whatever someone else decides if that affects me so that requires me to get engaged with people, to influence where things go, what I get out of it etc. And I actually enjoy engaging in this way. Call it domination according to your definition but it's not for social goals.

I sometimes enjoy socializing itself though. Talking and other interaction with people for the sake of interaction can be pretty fine in short bursts. It makes me enlivened temporarily*. I only really get interested though if the topic we are talking about or the thing we are doing is something that I'm interested in and that's because it's a topic about something I've already analysed to death. There's Ti for you

*: and maybe call that Fe-DS in socionics but I dunno

 

[yeghor]

Sounds like a pretty good distinction here!

Btw what is it when I sometimes engage because I want to have influence over stuff when I'm actually interested? The thing is just that a lot of time I just can't be bothered about shit, I mean I usually don't get involved in the socializing shit. But I'm also not just a follower of whatever someone else decides if that affects me so that requires me to get engaged with people, to influence where things go, what I get out of it etc. And I actually enjoy engaging in this way. Call it domination according to your definition but it's not for social goals.

I sometimes enjoy socializing itself though. Talking and other interaction with people for the sake of interaction can be pretty fine in short bursts. It makes me enlivened temporarily*. I only really get interested though if the topic we are talking about or the thing we are doing is something that I'm interested in and that's because it's a topic about something I've already analysed to death. There's Ti for you

*: and maybe call that Fe-DS in socionics but I dunno

In extraverts I guess the thing to control their environment is some kind of a compulsion to soothe their fears and feel safe.

The "I am laid back and will go with the flow but will speak my mind when it matters" thing may be more like introversion. The auxiliary function determines how that control manifests in those cases I guess..

 

[Agnes]

So I started questioning whether I was really introverted. I'm very talkative if I'm familiar with the subject of the conversation, but I look like an idiot if I'm not familiar.
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Do you guys think I'm an introvert or extrovert?

Definitely Introvert. Being introvert doesn't make you unable to have long deep discussions with people. Or rather you become more extroverted with familiar people/topics

Introvert. You do not (or cannot) dominate your environment. You can engage if you have something in your internal reserves to contribute to the issue at thand.

well said. 2 Es could possibly even have problems since both want to dominate the conversation and express themselves as prior thing.

 

[infinite]

In extraverts I guess the thing to control their environment is some kind of a compulsion to soothe their fears and feel safe.

The "I am laid back and will go with the flow but will speak my mind when it matters" thing may be more like introversion. The auxiliary function determines how that control manifests in those cases I guess..

Uh. When I said I can't be bothered with shit it doesn't mean I go with the flow. I simply don't engage so there is no flow to go with. This is because I know very well if I like an environment or I don't. If I don't, I will be like this.

As for the desire to control the environment, I don't see it as related to any fears in my case - though I'll admit I didn't analyse this very deep - , it's more like I want things and I get frustrated and angry if I don't get them the way I want. On the surface it's definitely like this anyway. Sure now if you say that deeper analysis maybe would show related fears, well I don't know. All this crazy psychoanalysis is not my thing

Anyhow.. that wanting of things is something you'd call pretty compulsive. Because I get so angry if I don't have things my way. Maybe an enneagram thing and not related to I/E.

PS: As for "crazy psychoanalysis", it's like this, I'm pretty skeptical of some ideas and conclusions in it, like, people see crazy things into things where there aren't any of those things. But, sometimes it makes sense. Sorta.

 

[infinite]

Definitely Introvert. Being introvert doesn't make you unable to have long deep discussions with people. Or rather you become more extroverted with familiar people/topics

I think that latter sentence is well put. I relate

well said. 2 Es could possibly even have problems since both want to dominate the conversation and express themselves as prior thing.

I can do that when I'm interested

 

[Agnes]

I think that latter sentence is well put. I relate

You know what, everybody is an introvert and extrovert, but it depends which one dominates. In your case I would say I. I, myself can be very extremely introverted, but overall I am more extroverted.