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    Quote Originally Posted by Nocapszy View Post
    Seriously.
    I've been saying that for like a year now on this site.

    The tests don't work, 'cause people think things of themselves that aren't true.
    Duh
    the test was made by a human
    MBTI is a theory
    according to its maker, it is 70% accurate
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvereX View Post
    Duh
    the test was made by a human
    MBTI is a theory
    according to its maker, it is 70% accurate
    As nocaps says, people do think things of themselves that are not true.
    However, the recourse is not a lot better: People also think things about OTHERS that are not true as well.

    As far as a 70% statistic, well, numbers are useless without qualification of what they are specifically referring to and knowledge of how the number was generated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennifer View Post
    What?

    Apparently it's not that obvious.

    I think there is some confusion here over what Fi can look like online in a series of posts, versus Ni+Fe. Also, I have no idea how strong Kiddo's Fi is; he wouldn't have to be INFP to have a developed Fi along with Ni+Fe.

    I remember him saying on another forum that he didn't understand why he got so angry. Inside he would not feel like he needed to say anything, it was sort of formless... but then someone would do something and he'd feel compelled to argue.

    I can't say that's Fi. It also sounds possibly Fe -- internally he's stable, externally if someone "breaks the rules," he goes ballistic even when he doesn't want to.

    In any case, it's interesting to consider... but I would not say that makes him an "obvious Fi."
    Actually, I never mentioned it, but I think that the whole "Fe-Ni looks like Fi" argument is bogus and was developed as a false explaination of the fact that most of the "INFJ"s on this forum are NFPs.

    What I remember about Kiddo's posts is when he tried to pull his whole "homophobes are Fi's" thing. By the way Kiddo (if you're reading this), I didn't like the crazy lady in that youtube either, but that doesn't make it a shadow reaction. It just makes her a crazy bitch. (duh!) Then he mentioned how he thought it was so bizarre that they seemed to think he was miserable, and I though "aha! opposing personality Fe". What else... his response to my "obesity myth" thread was totally Fi. No true Ni type has "wisdom at the cost of sanity" as thier signature, not even Nietche(if he were alive) (in other words, it's a fairly obvious sign of an extraverted perception preference).

    And I would love to discuss this further (including with Kiddo). I am %100 percent sure he prefers Fi, and I think he's an I_FP.

    And your "Fe" example could easily be inferior Te in that context. And I think it is.

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    I have to put in here something that's been niggling me - I don't understand why people are afraid to test as Sensers. That's absurd. If I were a Senser, I'd be all "YAY FOR ME!" Intuition is gimpy and I'm stuck with it.

    If someone believes they're Intuitive (by definition, erroneous or correct), why would they be offended to hear from their friends that they think they're a Senser? I've seen precious few Sensers who've been upset by an implication of Intuition.

    Why are Intuitives/Pseudo-Intuitives so touchy about that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    I don't understand why people are afraid to test as Sensers. That's absurd. If I were a Senser, I'd be all "YAY FOR ME!" Intuition is gimpy and I'm stuck with it.
    The forum culture here generally values the abstract over of the concrete (most likely due to the subject matter), and I can imagine that such a preference is rarely found the majority of wherever most of us find ourselves in our daily lives, so this place serves as a sort of safe-haven, and in order to protect this ideal atmosphere, sensors are out-grouped, if only implicitly.

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    Excellent explanation, Dana. That's pretty much what I'd thought too. Like the incorrect emphasis on N being "better" precludes Ss from joining in on forum life without having to take a defensive position. You're out of the clubhouse, so to speak. In waking life, Ss have domination, so it must go to type for Ns to congress in their own world where Ns are dominant.

    The psychology of it is certainly interesting.
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    Or you could test high on Ne AND Se and have somewhat the best of both worlds!


    ... but low on Ni and Si
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatever View Post
    Or you could test high on Ne AND Se and have somewhat the best of both worlds!


    ... but low on Ni and Si
    I sure do love you, Hypnotoad.
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    I would like to denounce my own typing as ENFJ. It's blatantly wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PinkPiranha View Post
    I have to put in here something that's been niggling me - I don't understand why people are afraid to test as Sensers. That's absurd. If I were a Senser, I'd be all "YAY FOR ME!" Intuition is gimpy and I'm stuck with it.
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