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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    To me you seem more warm and tentative.
    I'm going to try not to take "tentative" as an insult.

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    I've noticed this about @uumlau, but with you and other members I always thought it was for other reasons, like wanting to help people find the correct path to follow, foster someone's self-understanding, etc.
    Well yeah. But my point wasn't necessarily about deep-seated reasons, as much as methodology. A style of posting that is intended to make ourselves look as perfect as possible. For me and for Hard, it's more about making sure everything's running the way it should be -- not to mention the "looking perfect" thing for 13x tritypes tends to put a heavier emphasis on "perfect" than "looking", if that makes sense. I suspect that for uumlau and for PB, it's more about creating and maintaining harmony. Watching over the forum with a benevolent and peaceful eye.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    Mhm, but you don't think Disco does this? Although I guess he's more open about fighting against setbacks and overcoming obstacles than navigating around them. His second reply got me more used to the idea of him being an 8.
    IMO he's been more vulnerable (and MUCH less controlled) on this forum than anyone I've listed, purely in terms of expressing his emotions. Hell, there are some blog posts I've made where I read them after the fact, and they seem so straightforward and emotionless that it amazed me that I was literally crying while I wrote them.

    I see his forum presence as less about looking perfect and more about being strong. And in arguments, about being dominant. Not appearing dominant, but actually dominating.
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    It's strange. I keep banning morons, but they keep signing up? What is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    I noticed both you and @Hard have a habit of...idk how else to put it so I'm just gonna say sucking up to authority. I mean this in a 100% non-offensive way though. But do you think this could be something about being kindred ENFJ spirits? Or it could be sp influence trying to secure a safe place among the people who hold more power?

    According to a rep, which yes I received permission to post:

    I agree, both of them have a strong bent towards respecting/reinforcing authority/structure and their place in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    I'm not a trained professional, so it would be ridiculous for me to think that I could judge these things better than they would. Even if I looked under the surface, who's to say that I would be able to judge that information with any degree of accuracy, relative to someone who has spent their entire life learning how to do it?

    Again, SJ card. This is the way Si works.
    Length of time learning X =/= understanding of X. An STJ doctor of 30 years can be a complete idiot making the same mistakes over, and over, and over. Why? It's always been done that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    According to a rep, which yes I received permission to post:

    I agree, both of them have a strong bent towards respecting/reinforcing authority/structure and their place in it.
    I know the answer to your question, but I don't know if I'm allowed to answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Invincible View Post
    I highly doubt any human entity has the same thought process as I do, or would want to have it, lol.

    I was watching Southpaw, and I am pretty sure Billy Hope and his wife are different ends of the Ni-Se spectrum. Billy is the Se end, and Maureen is the Ni end.
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    Why such an urgent need to have me respond? Lol.

    1) I've never seen Southpaw, so I have no idea.

    2) The thought-process-uniqueness comment, while true, runs counter to what we're trying to do here, which is type you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Length of time learning X =/= understanding of X. An STJ doctor of 30 years can be a complete idiot making the same mistakes over, and over, and over. Why? It's always been done that way.
    And most of the time there's no way that I, as a non-doctor, would be able to know that. Unless it was something insanely stupid that a layman would know.

    Can we not have this discussion? Lol. It's going to go nowhere.
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    It's strange. I keep banning morons, but they keep signing up? What is this?
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    I don't like just sitting here reading so I am just saying I am here. Keep up the good work people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    I'm going to try not to take "tentative" as an insult.
    Coming from an ENFP, it's a compliment! You just seem willing to go with the flow and open about your messier qualities, but I dunno.

    Well yeah. But my point wasn't necessarily about deep-seated reasons, as much as methodology. A style of posting that is intended to make ourselves look as perfect as possible. For me and for Hard, it's more about making sure everything's running the way it should be -- not to mention the "looking perfect" thing for 13x tritypes tends to put a heavier emphasis on "perfect" than "looking", if that makes sense. I suspect that for uumlau and for PB, it's more about creating and maintaining harmony. Watching over the forum with a benevolent and peaceful eye.
    Oooh okay this makes sense. Now I wonder how the other 2 heart types create a pattern of behavior in people. I have some ideas for 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    I noticed both you and @Hard have a habit of...idk how else to put it so I'm just gonna say sucking up to authority. I mean this in a 100% non-offensive way though. But do you think this could be something about being kindred ENFJ spirits? Or it could be sp influence trying to secure a safe place among the people who hold more power?



    From my perspective, it's just me interacting with them as I would anyone else, rather than just being completely formal to and compliant with them because they're mods. People is people. I'm not exactly afraid of being banned or targeted, and so I don't have any need for the shelter I'd get for "sucking up" anyway.

    But in the godawful member-on-member-on-mod-on-member Feedback threads, I do seem to agree with mods more than other members do. I think @Hard does, too. I know that could also come across as sucking up. Maybe it's that I come from an (I don't know how to put this either, at all) authoritative (though I'm not authority) perspective, and so often what I say happens to align with each other and with the mods.

    And, hey, I've been a forum mod before. I just know how it goes. Maybe that contributes to my perspective. And I do think that, sometimes, if whatever opinions we happen to share only come from mods' mouths, they'd be dismissed as.. ... well, coming from a mod's mouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    Coming from an ENFP, it's a compliment! You just seem willing to go with the flow and open about your messier qualities, but I dunno.
    Okay, that sounds better. Thank you for clarifying!

    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    Oooh okay this makes sense. Now I wonder how the other 2 heart types create a pattern of behavior in people. I have some ideas for 2.
    I'd be interested to know this too!
    Quote Originally Posted by Nørrsken impersonating EJCC
    It's strange. I keep banning morons, but they keep signing up? What is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    And most of the time there's no way that I, as a non-doctor, would be able to know that. Unless it was something insanely stupid that a layman would know.

    Can we not have this discussion? Lol. It's going to go nowhere.
    You don't have to be an M.D. to know something an M.D. does not. And this discussion illustrates an important point: SJ= authority-centered. NT= Knowledge-centered. (And, yes, I purposely capitalized the "K" and not the "a.")






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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    I'm not a trained professional, so it would be ridiculous for me to think that I could judge these things better than they would. Even if I looked under the surface, who's to say that I would be able to judge that information with any degree of accuracy, relative to someone who has spent their entire life learning how to do it?

    Again, SJ card. This is the way Si works.
    Length of time learning X =/= understanding of X. An STJ doctor of 30 years can be a complete idiot making the same mistakes over, and over, and over. Why? It's always been done that way.
    My immediate response was kind of telling, in terms of the difference to EJCC's stated SJ approach:

    I note that as long as the practice looks reasonably consistent with what makes sense to me, then I'm willing to go with "They've got experience/training I don't have -> trust their expertise." And don't demand I understand all the details.

    The more that the behavior/practice seems counter-intuitive and doesn't seem to make sense to me, the more I challenge it until I either finally understand their approach to be correct or I jettison it as unfounded.

    I'm usually asking for "pattern" confirmation versus lots of unconnected data points; does their expertise conform to what seems to be a reasonable data pattern or is it inconsistent? If that latter, then examine more close / learn the principles on which their expertise is based to see if I can find a match.
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