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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    Damn, Jag, I was hoping I wouldn't have to play my SJ card here (because it isn't super relevant to the discussion of CA's type, since CA is clearly not an SJ):

    - If I don't care enough to look into the study in great deal, then: how do a variety of trusted scientific sources think this measures up? What are the issues that they see?

    Trusted scientific sources. There's an oxymoron. What makes a source trusted - who is taking the least money under the table? Simply because they have M.D. after their name? What? I look beneath the surface of everything. Including "trusted sources."
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    Yeah, it's just a theory I've been bouncing around in my head. There are times when I know exactly what I'm talking about, and I can explain it in an anecdotal way to convey my understanding of the inner workings, and some people are like "OK, that makes sense" and others are like "What's your proof?" and require sources, authority, etc.

    Both levels of reasoning are valuable, but some people tend to lean very much towards one or the other, and can only be budged by one style of reasoning. In my experience, this would SEEM to line up with Ni/Se (stories/narratives/workflows) vs Ne/Si (lots of data that has a particular pattern). I'm not saying this is true, just an impression of mine.

    Anyway, sorry for any confusion, I'm just looking for clues to help out the Captain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaguar View Post
    Trusted scientific sources. There's an oxymoron. What makes a source trusted - who is taking the least money under the table? Simply because they have M.D. after their name? What? I look beneath the surface of everything. Including "trusted sources."
    I'm not a trained professional, so it would be ridiculous for me to think that I could judge these things better than they would. Even if I looked under the surface, who's to say that I would be able to judge that information with any degree of accuracy, relative to someone who has spent their entire life learning how to do it?

    Again, SJ card. This is the way Si works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    I'm not a trained professional, so it would be ridiculous for me to think that I could judge these things better than they would. Even if I looked under the surface, who's to say that I would be able to judge that information with any degree of accuracy, relative to someone who has spent their entire life learning how to do it?

    Again, SJ card. This is the way Si works.
    I think you and Jag might be making my Ni/Se vs Ne/Si point for me.

    It's only one data point, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uumlau View Post
    I think you and Jag might be making my Ni/Se vs Ne/Si point for me.

    It's only one data point, of course.
    Well, SJ vs NJ, anyway. I highly doubt that NPs would have the same thought process that I do -- the same trust in authority.

    p.s. Congrats on your 4000th post in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    What makes him seem more 3-like than, let's say, me, or @Hard, or @uumlau, or tbh even @PeaceBaby? We all have extremely strong 3 fixes that sometimes overpower our core, to the point of (on the forum anyway) seeming more 3 than any other type.
    I've been meaning to come back to this, because I don't see you or any of these people strongly 3 at all. What makes you think you guys are strongly 3 compared to Disco, who to me seems still the most 3 out of any of these members?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    I highly doubt that NPs would have the same thought process that I do
    I highly doubt any human entity has the same thought process as I do, or would want to have it, lol.

    I was watching Southpaw, and I am pretty sure Billy Hope and his wife are different ends of the Ni-Se spectrum. Billy is the Se end, and Maureen is the Ni end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    I've been meaning to come back to this, because I don't see you or any of these people strongly 3 at all. What makes you think you guys are strongly 3 compared to Disco, who to me seems still the most 3 out of any of these members?
    A VERY cool and collected presentation. Swooping into threads to show their expertise, then ducking back out again, with little to no vulnerability shown. Sweeping their weaknesses under the rug, or spinning them to make them look like strengths. Setbacks are spun to look like opportunities. No cracks in the facade.

    (This applies much more to @Hard IRL than on the forum -- much of the above doesn't apply to him here. The rest applies to the other folks I mentioned though. Myself included.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    p.s. Congrats on your 4000th post in advance
    You're going to have to wait a while for this one. Make a good, insightful thread and foster around six pages of discussion. @uumlau may pop into that thread.. with his 4000th post.

    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    A VERY cool and collected presentation. Swooping into threads to show their expertise, then ducking back out again, with little to no vulnerability shown. Sweeping their weaknesses under the rug, or spinning them to make them look like strengths. Setbacks are spun to look like opportunities. No cracks in the facade.
    Guilty. Sometimes I can't tell whether I'm being self-revealing or humblebragging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJCC View Post
    A VERY cool and collected presentation.
    To me you seem more warm and tentative.

    Swooping into threads to show their expertise, then ducking back out again, with little to no vulnerability shown.
    I've noticed this about @uumlau, but with you and other members I always thought it was for other reasons, like wanting to help people find the correct path to follow, foster someone's self-understanding, etc.

    Sweeping their weaknesses under the rug, or spinning them to make them look like strengths. Setbacks are spun to look like opportunities. No cracks in the facade.
    Mhm, but you don't think Disco does this? Although I guess he's more open about fighting against setbacks and overcoming obstacles than navigating around them. His second reply got me more used to the idea of him being an 8.

    Quote Originally Posted by jscrothers View Post
    Guilty. Sometimes I can't tell whether I'm being self-revealing or humblebragging.
    I noticed both you and @Hard have a habit of...idk how else to put it so I'm just gonna say sucking up to authority. I mean this in a 100% non-offensive way though. But do you think this could be something about being kindred ENFJ spirits? Or it could be sp influence trying to secure a safe place among the people who hold more power?

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