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    me. i'm a estp 7

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    @Amargith
    I suggest you read this. frankly, the Sx 4 doesn't sound like you at all. they are insanely aggressive, vengeful and angry and are said to be "the only time which can make the 8 back down".
    http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-fo...ml#post5788074
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    you win, 7 sounds right for you, but Social 7, not Sexual 7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    @Amargith
    I suggest you read this. frankly, the Sx 4 doesn't sound like you at all. they are insanely aggressive, vengeful and angry and are said to be "the only time which can make the 8 back down".
    http://personalitycafe.com/type-4-fo...ml#post5788074
    @pinkgraffiti
    you win, 7 sounds right for you, but Social 7, not Sexual 7
    I read the Sx 4 description and I am surprised. I am not saying I disagree with it. I don't know that many e4s from real life to compare.

    However I know a few 5w4s (I tend to get disgusted by them) and they exhibit most if not all of the descriptions above with an e5 obvious aspects to them.

    And if that description is correct it explains why 5w4s sound extremely vengeful. There are quite a few 5w4s who exhibit those traits in the forum and they are sx doms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    @pinkgraffiti
    you win, 7 sounds right for you, but Social 7, not Sexual 7
    ahahah that's hilarious.....me, having any grain of So in me? bwahahahhah

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkgraffiti View Post
    ahahah that's hilarious.....me, having any grain of So in me? bwahahahhah
    let me get this straight, you support communism and you don't understand how you have even a grain of So in you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    let me get this straight, you support communism and you don't understand how you have even a grain of So in you?
    Isn't there a difference?

    So is about letting the bigger social sphere be an extension of the self, right? Belonging, connection, that kinda stuff?

    What if you support communism because you think it's a fair and just system, aligning with your idea of how people ideally should behave in a society? And not necessarily because you seek a sense of community?

    Are all So last libertarians?

    I get why you'd make the connection between the two. I just think you can be a communist for other reasons than prioritizing the group.

    EDIT: One goal of communism is dismantling government and the power structure inherent in such a society. Doesn't that strike you as something a So last could support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsung View Post
    Isn't there a difference?
    So is about letting the bigger social sphere be an extension of the self, right? Belonging, connection, that kinda stuff?
    also navigating social systems and keeping track of current events (be it industry standards, gossip etc), but pretty much, yeah

    What if you support communism because you think it's a fair and just system, aligning with your idea of how people ideally should behave in a society?
    And not necessarily because you seek a sense of community?
    I get why you'd make the connection between the two. I just think you can be a communist for other reasons than prioritizing the group.
    isn't the example in the first quote an example of prioritizing the group? someone who is not inclined to contemplate/consider the greater social sphere is not likely to see giving up over half their income for the sake of society as a fair arrangement (especially a Social last Id type. Social last 7s and 8s are unapologetically hedonistic and would never tolerate sacrificing their excess capital as would be mandated by communism). this would require a very "no man is an island" mindset that is quite foreign to a Social laster

    Are all So last libertarians?
    all social last types: no
    social last 7s: frequently

    EDIT: One goal of communism is dismantling government and the power structure inherent in such a society. Doesn't that strike you as something a So last could support?
    this is part of what has always confused me about communism. no government = anarchy. anarchy is pretty far from communism and typically one of the most inequitable systems I can think of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    someone who is not inclined to contemplate/consider the greater social sphere is not likely to see giving up over half their income for the sake of society as a fair arrangement (especially a Social last Id type. Social last 7s and 8s are unapologetically hedonistic and would never tolerate sacrificing their excess capital as would be mandated by communism).
    To contemplate the greater social sphere, the structure of society, the form of government, the mechanisms of the market, one hardly needs to be particularly social-minded. You are part of and influenced by society whether you know it or not. It thus becomes a matter of prudence to contemplate its workings.

    I have a very hedonistic ESTP friend who is also an avid defender of socialism. He once spent hours trying to convince me of its superiority to the current state of affairs, and he would have succeeded if I thought that humans could actually make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    let me get this straight, you support communism and you don't understand how you have even a grain of So in you?
    mistaking Fi with So? you deserve a kiss though

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