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[magpie]

Not trying to thread-jack but I mevdr learned what my 2nd number is ( just 8w7) does anyone here ( who knows me) suggest one? And is there an in-depth description like this one?

I don't know you but do you relate to this description? The 27 Tritype/Archetype Descriptions - Page 2

 

[VILLANELLE]

Not trying to thread-jack but I mevdr learned what my 2nd number is ( just 8w7) does anyone here ( who knows me) suggest one? And is there an in-depth description like this one?
( not tryna fix those typos. Just no I typed ona phone and fuk ifone keypads)

Thom is where they have all of the enneagram tritypes. There's a test in the forum that you can take; and there's also this one.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

*raises hand* I have a question! So I have a strong value system, but I update it fairly often if I have a sudden insight, or several new bits of logic/evidence come along that make me realize that my beliefs are inaccurate and I was just wondering if that's more Fe/Si or Fi/Ne. I could see it being a Fe thing because I'd be getting my values from my external world but I have a harder time seeing the Si because if I grew up thinking that one thing was right, wouldn't I cling to it if I was a Si? And then I have a hard time seeing it as a Fi Ne because well, the Ne would be good at seeing the new possibilities of different value systems and examining the evidence for them all, but wouldn't the Fi want to cling to its identity instead of fluidly moving along?

In another thread asking about type you had me rather convinced you are a clear INFJ. I do think you are an iNtuitive because of your style of humor. I get that you have a more fun, zany feeling than a more structured Fe type, so I'm not certain what's going on with all of your functions. While ESFJs can have a certain kind of whimsy and fun to them, I haven't ever met one or understood one to have the same vibe as you.

 

[thepink-cloakedninja]

In another thread asking about type you had me rather convinced you are a clear INFJ. I do think you are an iNtuitive because of your style of humor. I get that you have a more fun, zany feeling than a more structured Fe type, so I'm not certain what's going on with all of your functions. While ESFJs can have a certain kind of whimsy and fun to them, I haven't ever met one or understood one to have the same vibe as you.

Oh okay thanks, I'll definitely keep that in mind!

 

[VILLANELLE]

Thanks a lot for your help . Ill put the 3w2 to 2w3 for now and see how that goes.

My comment got eaten but I sort of remember what I'd tried to say earlier.. not sure if it got posted. But your 2 wing could be wrong, 2w3, and I think that's common in the tritypes. Not literally all tri-types being 2w3 I mean, but like, having a strong tri-type in-between the two preferences. It happens. Just go with it!

 

[thepink-cloakedninja]

In another thread asking about type you had me rather convinced you are a clear INFJ. I do think you are an iNtuitive because of your style of humor. I get that you have a more fun, zany feeling than a more structured Fe type, so I'm not certain what's going on with all of your functions. While ESFJs can have a certain kind of whimsy and fun to them, I haven't ever met one or understood one to have the same vibe as you.

Okay, so this is what is going on with all of my functions ... D:


Te (Extroverted Thinking) (65%)
your valuation of / adherence to logic of external systems / hierarchies / methods

Ti (Introverted Thinking) (100%)
your valuation of / adherence to your own internally devised logic/rational

Ne (Extroverted Intuition) (100%)
your valuation of / tendency towards free association and creating with external stimuli

Ni (Introverted Intuition) (65%)
your valuation of / tendency towards internal/original free association and creativity

Se (Extroverted Sensing) (5%)
your valuation of / tendency to fully experience the world unfiltered, in the moment

Si (Introverted Sensing) (60%)
your valuation of / focus on internal sensations and reliving past moments

Fe (Extroverted Feeling) (100%)
your valuation of / adherence to external morals, ethics, traditions, customs, groups

Fi (Introverted Feeling) (60%)
your valuation of / adherence to the sanctity of your own feelings / ideals / sentiment

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based on your results your type is likely - unclear

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

Okay, so this is what is going on with all of my functions ... D:


Te (Extroverted Thinking) (65%)
your valuation of / adherence to logic of external systems / hierarchies / methods

Ti (Introverted Thinking) (100%)
your valuation of / adherence to your own internally devised logic/rational

Ne (Extroverted Intuition) (100%)
your valuation of / tendency towards free association and creating with external stimuli

Ni (Introverted Intuition) (65%)
your valuation of / tendency towards internal/original free association and creativity

Se (Extroverted Sensing) (5%)
your valuation of / tendency to fully experience the world unfiltered, in the moment

Si (Introverted Sensing) (60%)
your valuation of / focus on internal sensations and reliving past moments

Fe (Extroverted Feeling) (100%)
your valuation of / adherence to external morals, ethics, traditions, customs, groups

Fi (Introverted Feeling) (60%)
your valuation of / adherence to the sanctity of your own feelings / ideals / sentiment

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based on your results your type is likely - unclear

That is interesting. ENTP is the only one that accounts for all three 100% functions without any of them being in the inferior spot. Maybe you are an ENTP in a dom-tert loop?
Ne 1000%
Ti 100%
Fe 100%
Si 60%

 

[thepink-cloakedninja]

That is interesting. ENTP is the only one that accounts for all three 100% functions without any of them being in the inferior spot. Maybe you are an ENTP in a dom-tert loop?
Ne 1000%
Ti 100%
Fe 100%
Si 60%

Huh, maybe! I don't think so though, as, reading through the ENTP description on 16types, ENTP does not sound me. Like, I enjoy debating on occasion, but definitely know when to stop and have a reputation for being caring and sweet instead of argumentative. Plus like, one of the main ENTP weaknesses is insensitivity, and I list being overly sensitive as one of my greatest weaknesses.

I think what is probably happening is that some of the questions can correspond to multiple functions and then some of the Ti questions like "you value the scientific method" I would of course answer DEFINITELY to as I'm majoring in a branch of science. *nods*

Thanks again for your input! I appreciate it!

 

[Psyclepath]

Huh, maybe! I don't think so though, as, reading through the ENTP description on 16types, ENTP does not sound me. Like, I enjoy debating on occasion, but definitely know when to stop and have a reputation for being caring and sweet instead of argumentative. Plus like, one of the main ENTP weaknesses is insensitivity, and I list being overly sensitive as one of my greatest weaknesses.

I think what is probably happening is that some of the questions can correspond to multiple functions and then some of the Ti questions like "you value the scientific method" I would of course answer DEFINITELY to as I'm majoring in a branch of science. *nods*

Thanks again for your input! I appreciate it!

I imagine many ENTPs are sensitive socially. As an INTP, I'm very sensitive, almost neurotically so. I imagine that an ENTP's slightly stronger use of Fe will give them a slightly more instinctive understanding of what makes people tick. Si is about physical atmosphere, and I imagine with their weak Si, ENTPs will feel very uncomfortable creating conflicts.

I at least am terrible in conflicts. In Socionics, types with strong Ne have extremely poor Se and are highly ineffective in conflict. This is mainly because strong Ne focuses on creating future scenarios that ignore the practicalities of how to obtain them. I have little clue for my capabilities, just things that seem possible but often aren't. Effectively, it's based all around a poor understanding of physical structures.

I can't explain it well right now; hoping I can come up with a better explanation soon. But don't rule out ENTP simply because you're an overly sensitive sweetheart. Someone told me they didn't think I was ENTP for that very reason, yet I turned out to be a very similar type.

 

[Lord Lavender]

Huh, maybe! I don't think so though, as, reading through the ENTP description on 16types, ENTP does not sound me. Like, I enjoy debating on occasion, but definitely know when to stop and have a reputation for being caring and sweet instead of argumentative. Plus like, one of the main ENTP weaknesses is insensitivity, and I list being overly sensitive as one of my greatest weaknesses.

I think what is probably happening is that some of the questions can correspond to multiple functions and then some of the Ti questions like "you value the scientific method" I would of course answer DEFINITELY to as I'm majoring in a branch of science. *nods*

Thanks again for your input! I appreciate it!

For you I have always seen Fe and Ne in your stacking and both are quite strong but at this moment I do incline ESFJ due to no obvious Ti but then I dont see much Si ether. I wouldn't rule out ENTP due to being too nice as I myself despite being very Ne/Ti I am known as being one of the most soft hearted and nicest people ever by most people both on here and IRL. I would take other factors like instinctual stackings and ennegram into account before deciding on an final type. If you need further help I will be glad to assist you .

 

[thepink-cloakedninja]

For you I have always seen Fe and Ne in your stacking and both are quite strong but at this moment I do incline ESFJ due to no obvious Ti but then I dont see much Si ether. I wouldn't rule out ENTP due to being too nice as I myself despite being very Ne/Ti I am known as being one of the most soft hearted and nicest people ever by most people both on here and IRL. I would take other factors like instinctual stackings and ennegram into account before deciding on an final type. If you need further help I will be glad to assist you .

That makes sense. LOL well Si and Ti are both introverted so they don't want to come out ... they're busy staying at home binge watching Netflix while extroverted Ne and Fe run about and go to parties. *nodnod* That makes sense, and you are definitely very nice! I hope I wasn't hurting anyone's feelings by that comment. I certainly didn't mean that ENTPs aren't nice! D: And I would absolutely LOVE help from you figuring out my type. That would be great!

 

[Lord Lavender]

That makes sense. LOL well Si and Ti are both introverted so they don't want to come out ... they're busy staying at home binge watching Netflix while extroverted Ne and Fe run about and go to parties. *nodnod* That makes sense, and you are definitely very nice! I hope I wasn't hurting anyone's feelings by that comment. I certainly didn't mean that ENTPs aren't nice! D: And I would absolutely LOVE help from you figuring out my type. That would be great!

Ive been obsserving a little more and you seem very ESFJ to me but one with a strong Ne/Ti and you do give a ENTP flavor at times.

 

[thepink-cloakedninja]

Ive been obsserving a little more and you seem very ESFJ to me but one with a strong Ne/Ti and you do give a ENTP flavor at times.

OK cool thanks!

 

[magpie]

Can anyone who's familiar with socionics give me an opinion on whether they think I'm an Fi or Se subtype? I type as ESI. Here are the descriptions: Socionics Types: ESI-ISFj Subtypes. I relate to both.

 

[magpie]

Se Subtype (bolded are the statements I agree with)

Stubborn, firm, and uncompromising in matters that are of importance to him. Strong-willed and enduring. Industrious and venturesome. Energetic and quick in handling practical matters. Can do several things at once, showing extraordinary work ethic and efficiency. From time to time, needs an emotional discharge. Difficult life situations invigorate him and stimulate him to search for quick solutions and exits out of current circumstances. With difficulty takes the initiative in making new acquaintances and establishing new contacts, but usually takes the first steps in breaking off relations that have run their course. Observant and clever, at the right time can hit the weakest spot of his opponent. To good and poor treatment answers with the same. Has a tendency to divide people into "his own" and "others".

Seems somewhat inaccessible, vigilant, and alert. Dislikes it when someone puts his qualities to an evaluation because internally he is not fully confident in himself. Intolerant of those who are lazy, slovenly, and disingenuous. Does not forgive rudeness and tactlessness, which may even serve as a reason to break up relations for him. In a company of unfamiliar or unpleasant people, he feels constrained and may choose to leave quietly. Does not like unexpected visitors, quickly becomes tired of them. At times he is overly distrustful and suspicious of others.

In conversation with people tries to determine their abilities and possibilities for future practical application in some area. Tries to evaluate people objectively, regardless of his sympathies for them. Often possesses good administrative skills. In his decisions seeks to rely on factual information.

In a circle of close people, he is usually talkative, makes jokes, sometimes asks tricky questions, inclined to play pranks and set up ruses; attempts to entertain others. Subordinates his emotions to the situation: he is cheerful among those who are cheerful and serious among those who are serious. Defends and upholds ethical standards. Selflessly protects his own interests and interest of people who are close to him. Able to make others subjugate to his will. In difficult situations, readily lends his help to others and offers his services. Tries not to show his anger and spite openly, but not everyone can withstand his penetrating, prickly gaze.

Places high demands on himself. Quickly adapts to new circumstances if he finds them favorable. Poorly tolerates ambivalence and hesitation. Finds it difficult to wait for resolution of important for him questions. Often fluctuates in selection of a goal, but at a critical moment he can make the right decision. Poorly feels the progression of time; due to this, grows nervous getting ready for anything, feels anxious that he won't make it on time. Feels worried concerning upcoming changes, for example, when he has to take a trip. Cherishes stability, supports conventions of his own circle. Somewhat suspicious and skeptical.

A good economist, able to efficiently handle his finances, dislikes being in debt. Easily takes the initiative in concrete and practical activities, can even be assertive and imposing. Intolerant of irresponsibility and disorganization. Often possesses a developed aesthetic taste and dresses originally. Clean and neat, and demands the same from others. Finds it difficult to discern individual capabilities and hidden motives of others; due to this can have problems with his work colleagues, family members and children.

Fi Subtype (bolded are the statements I agree with)

Restrained, tactful, and polite in his behavior. Well-versed in human relations. He is constantly analyzing actions of others and condemning any behavior that violates moral and ethical standards. Principled in matters of morality and responsibility. Distinguished by his sharp and categorical conclusions. Tries to be more tolerant of others, thus he doesn't immediately express his opinions if they are negative. Very observant: readily takes note of personal deficiencies and qualities of other people. Remembers the mistakes of others for a long time; if opportunity presents itself can resort to his "personal files". At a distance, however, he can idealize those towards whom he is sympathetic.

Stable in his habits and affections; appreciates friendship and does not forgive betrayal. Expresses his attitude not so much by words as by tone of his voice and look. Does not like giving promises if he is unsure that he can deliver them. Dislikes imposing anything on people who are unfamiliar to him. Yielding in relations, may put aside his own affairs to devote himself to solving problems of his partner. Vulnerable and impressionable; shares his feelings only with people who are close to him. Demonstrates his attitude not only by words, but also by deeds. Guarded and mistrustful; tries to be cautious such that he wouldn't be caught by surprise. Courteous and polite. Modest and undemonstrative in his behavior, tries not to stand out. Dresses simply, but tastefully.

Does his work consistently and thoroughly overcoming any obstacles that arise on the way. Does not put off tasks and chores until later. Helps others with their work if they cannot cope with it by the deadlines. Painfully endures injustice and critical remarks regarding his abilities. Afraid of making mistakes and failing others. In need of praise and compliments, but doesn't show this. Can be indecisive; given to internal doubts, but ultimately does not let his internal swings undermine his main values. Appreciates comfort, both in work and in human relations.

Very conscientious, aware of his obligations, responsible person, but prefers to share responsibility with others. Expands his time and effort for upkeep of order and stability. May prefer to plan his future activities. Punctual, prepares in advance, usually does not run late to events. Inclined to sit up late at work trying to finish everything. Forces himself to do work that is uninteresting but necessary. Able to accurately maintain records.

 

[magpie]

I'm still not sure about my subtype, but since I've looked into socionics Se I'm sure of my typing as ESI. I don't fully relate, or relate terribly a lot even, to the ISFP descriptions or the MBTI Se function. Se in MBTI is basically, "if it looks like a rock and tastes like a rock, it is a rock." Socionics Se is about influence and impact, and it explains how Se users are concerned with possibilities, which is what I've been trying to assert for ages.

Unlike Si, which is about one's subjective sensory experience (how intense or enjoyable it is), Se is about achieving an object of desire. It gives one the ability to influence, bend, and push situations and people in order to achieve such an object, rather than to enjoy the situation one is in.

Not that I think anyone cares, but I'm just writing this to say I find socionics more accurate and useful than MBTI, and type as ESI. I don't type as ISFP anymore because it's not applicable. Based on MBTI type descriptions only and not MBTI cognitive functions, I relate most to INFJ.

INFJs are not idle dreamers, but people capable of taking concrete steps to realize their goals and make a lasting positive impact.

INFJs indeed share a unique combination of traits: though soft-spoken, they have very strong opinions and will fight tirelessly for an idea they believe in. They are decisive and strong-willed, but will rarely use that energy for personal gain – INFJs will act with creativity, imagination, conviction and sensitivity not to create advantage, but to create balance.

 

[SearchingforPeace]

I'm still not sure about my subtype, but since I've looked into socionics Se I'm sure of my typing as ESI. I don't fully relate, or relate terribly a lot even, to the ISFP descriptions or the MBTI Se function. Se in MBTI is basically, "if it looks like a rock and tastes like a rock, it is a rock." Socionics Se is about influence and impact, and it explains how Se users are concerned with possibilities, which is what I've been trying to assert for ages.



Not that I think anyone cares, but I'm just writing this to say I find socionics more accurate and useful than MBTI, and type as ESI. I don't type as ISFP anymore because it's not applicable. Based on MBTI type descriptions only and not MBTI cognitive functions, I relate most to INFJ.

FWIW, I never thought you fit in the MBTI or JCF ISFP..... I don't do enough socionics to say any comment on that typing.

 

[Captain_Invincible]

Okay guys, it's been a long time since I replied here, huh?
I've been thinking about my type a lot more recently, and have been researching the functions and even Socionics. In Socionics, I am commonly typed, as and have been verified as an EIE-ENFj (Fe subtype, most likely). I've asked a few questions to various people about your MBTI type having to match your Socionics type perfectly. Does it really have to? Are both systems really equal in regards to how each function is used?
Is it odd to be ESFP in MBTI and ENFj in Socionics?
Can someone help me out here, please? xD

 

[Yama]

[MENTION=27952]Merced[/MENTION] thinks i'm sx/so and i need more opinions.

 

[Frosty]

[MENTION=27952]Merced[/MENTION] thinks i'm sx/so and i need more opinions.

No, I really dont think you are sx first. Personally, I think you are sx last.