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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    In an attempt to reconcile his perceived introversion with his dominant extroverted intuition, Jack Flak created a new system in which INTPs, his claimed type, were 'intuitive primaries', and therefore solved the problem.

    Little did he know that many ENTPs can also behave quite introvertedly, and that his system, if used alongside MBTI, would only screw up the typing of all ENTPs after him...
    I haven't studied his personal system extensively enough to argue on its merits and faults, barely glanced at it to be truthful. I would say though that I feel as if my intuition is something that I rely on and utilize much more frequently than my thinking and there is almost no way I would consider my self extraverted.
    My cold, snide, intellectual life is just a veneer, behind which lies the plywood of loneliness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I don't type based on vendettas. Types can explain vendettas, that is all.
    It is a fatal flaw to believe one is so objective.
    -Carefully taking sips from the Fire Hose of Knowledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimahn View Post
    I haven't studied his personal system extensively enough to argue on its merits and faults, barely glanced at it to be truthful. I would say that I feel as if my intuition is something that I rely on and utilize much more frequently than my thinking and there is almost no way I would consider my self extraverted.
    But how do you define extraversion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    I don't type based on vendettas. Types can explain vendettas, that is all.
    QFT! It's almost always the same 2 or 3 types that irritate or baffle me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IF3157 View Post
    ...at bottom, it's always up to people to know what fits them best...
    Yes and no. It's well accepted that there are "MBTI enthusiasts" out and about who self-deny their type.

    Well, I don't, and yet I'd tend to agree with them. Call it "SJ on MBTIc only" if that is more palatable, but intuition appears out to lunch. If she is an NF it's pretty well hidden.
    I, for one, appreciate your courage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    You are typed accurately. Being a Sensor implies lack of Intuition use, which leads you to believe others aren't more perceptive.
    PFFT!!!

    I've just gotten to know pt recently and from what I have gathered from his posts thus far, compared to yours, is that he is VASTLY more perceptive than you are, or will ever be.



    I don't type based on vendettas. Types can explain vendettas, that is all.
    You might not type based on vendettas, but what you certainly do do is make derogatory, mean-spirited, offensive posts about and towards people who happen to not want to indulge you and your bull shit.
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    'Cause you can't handle me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Yes and no. It's well accepted that there are "MBTI enthusiasts" out and about who self-deny their type.
    Hence the "after all the wishful thinking/hatred of types is done".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    It is a fatal flaw to believe one is so objective.
    Note that it remains the Judging Primaries who deny the ability to be objective. This is all explained, in other terminology, here:

    Jack Flak's Function System Adventure

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainChick View Post
    PFFT!!!

    I've just gotten to know pt recently and from what I have gathered from his posts thus far, compared to yours, is that he is VASTLY more perceptive than you are, or will ever be.

    You might not type based on vendettas, but what you certainly do do is make derogatory, mean-spirited, offensive posts about and towards people who happen to not want to indulge you and your bull shit.
    I would much appreciate it if you wouldn't antagonize me here, CC, because we have conflicting, how shall I say, "debate styles," and it would get very mean very quickly. I don't want to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    But how do you define extraversion?
    To me it is something that is much more all encompassing so I don't necessarily think it can be confined to just social relations, or any similar aspects for that matter. I even hesitate to define it more rigourously, I feel as if I would be adding personal value judgements based solely on my own inclinations that would unnecsarily restrict rather than elaborate.

    I would need to retreat and contemplate to give you a more thorough answer.
    My cold, snide, intellectual life is just a veneer, behind which lies the plywood of loneliness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haphazard View Post
    It is a fatal flaw to believe one is so objective.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flak View Post
    Note that it remains the Judging Primaries who deny the ability to be objective. This is all explained, in other terminology, here:

    Jack Flak's Function System Adventure
    LOL!!!

    I would much appreciate it if you wouldn't antagonize me here, CC, because we have conflicting, how shall I say, "debate styles," and it would get very mean very quickly. I don't want to do that.
    Quit being a [super-silly guy] and I will quit "antagonizing" you, as you say. K?
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