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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    I do not see how you can successfuly seperate functions from 'directions of functions'. In order to reject the clause of 'directions of functions' you must abrogate the distinction between Introversion and Extroversion.
    Why?
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    Maybe BW's intuition is more reserved. And when he speaks, he has already made up his mind.

    I would not call this the best of approaches to a problem, but I can clearly see that he is open to discussion.

    And my ISTJ pal is only open to diskussion, if you break him
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    I do not see how you can successfuly seperate functions from 'directions of functions'. In order to reject the clause of 'directions of functions' you must abrogate the distinction between Introversion and Extroversion.

    This you have not done.
    You are correct. I thought I would be going too far, and also rehashing old ground by defining the difference between introversion and extroversion and how it relates to function use.

    For the time being, I think it's acceptable to stack the traits. Person X is Introverted, and is Thinking/Sensing. Person Y is Extroverted, and is Intuition/Thinking, etcetera. To define a specific correlation is taking a very large step, and I hesitate because that's the kind of thing I was trying to get away from.

    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    And my ISTJ pal is only open to diskussion, if you break him
    Now you're defining ISTJs based on one person? Shame on you, entropie!

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    That makes no sense does it ?

    I wanted to say, maybe BW tries to project an aura of definiteness, to shed some security onto the topic. And that projection hides connections he has drawn beforehand.

    That would be a noble cause and we will go to hell for picking him
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    Maybe BW's intuition is more reserved. And when he speaks, he has already made up his mind.
    I believe this would make him INTJ (using MBTI, not JFTI).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangey View Post
    Why?
    If you say I am a Thinking type and also I am an Introvert, it means that you use Thinking primarily in the realm of Introversion.

    Introvert/Extrovert distinction is primarily concerned with showing how we derive energy. In the case of the Introvert, it is through solitary contemplation, in the case of the Extrovert, it is through interaction with the external world.

    Thus, if we have the concept of a Thinker and an Introvert, we maintain that the Thinker in question is most easily inspired to think when he/she is alone. When we maintain that one is an Extroverted Thinker, we claim that one is most easily inspired to Think in activities which involve interaction with the external world.

    Clearly, the concept of Introversion and Extroversion specifies direction of the functions. In order to claim that functions lack directions, this concept must be abrogated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by locke View Post
    I believe this would make him INTJ (using MBTI, not JFTI).
    In MBTI notation, INTJ is Ni-Te.

    Their dominant function is Intuition, the Intuition is not reserved at all in this case.

    In socionics (and Jack's system) INTJ is the notation for Ti-Ne, where Intuition is reserved because it is a secondary function.
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    Quote Originally Posted by locke View Post
    I believe this would make him INTJ (using MBTI, not JFTI).
    true.

    I am just not sure, if we know him personally enough to judge him

    at least I dont
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    Quote Originally Posted by entropie View Post
    I wanted to say, maybe BW tries to project an aura of definiteness, to shed some security onto the topic. And that projection hides connections he has drawn beforehand.
    This is the nature of an intelligent Thinking Primary. It's related to both of these things independently, for the record.

    Quote Originally Posted by locke View Post
    I believe this would make him INTJ (using MBTI, not JFTI).
    Or ISTJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    If you say I am a Thinking type and also I am an Introvert, it means that you use Thinking primarily in the realm of Introversion.
    I would say that's likely, but it's hard to define. And I'm Intuition Primary, yet also an Introvert, but Intuition is a Perceiving function, and related to input from the outside world. My typical state is one of quiet observation and contemplation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueWing View Post
    In MBTI notation, INTJ is Ni-Te.

    Their dominant function is Intuition, the Intuition is not reserved at all in this case.

    In socionics (and Jack's system) INTJ is the notation for Ti-Ne, where Intuition is reserved because it is a secondary function.
    I think entropie meant that the expression of the intuition was reserved. You spend much of the time using your intuition introvertedly, but then once you come to a conclusion you express it with your extroverted judgement. This is the jist of MBTI, is it not?
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