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    I come from a very traditional cultural background, if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion 4.5 View Post
    Because I want to see myself as a force to be reckoned with, but I'm not satisfied that that is true.
    Are INFJs not a force to be reckoned with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    Are INFJs not a force to be reckoned with?
    Sure, but not on the surface. You have to fight for attention sometimes. Especially in large groups of people. And the socionics authors have an incredibly negative take on IEI. To hear them, IEI is practically on life support until it can begin to suck the life out of an SLE.

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    I want a favorable stereotype! I've looked at the functions, and it's good, but I want a type that will be glorified as incredibly at the forefront of anything. It would be a mistype for sure, but if someone would give me validation it would be nice. lol. But seriously I might be mistyped. That one guy didn't think I seemed INFJish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion 4.5 View Post
    Sure, but not on the surface. You have to fight for attention sometimes. Especially in large groups of people. And the socionics authors have an incredibly negative take on IEI. To hear them, IEI is practically on life support until it can begin to suck the life out of an SLE.
    I don't feel like I don't stand out..

    And why is it that you think IEI is the socionics type that corresponds best with INFJ in MBTI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    I don't feel like I don't stand out..

    And why is it that you think IEI is the socionics type that corresponds best with INFJ in MBTI?
    Well, partly I'm just complaining.

    IEI undoubtedly corresponds best to the INFJ of the functions. Keirsey maybe has a different INFJ, but the Jungian INFJ is almost synonymous with IEI INFp of Socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion 4.5 View Post
    IEI undoubtedly corresponds best to the INFJ of the functions. Keirsey maybe has a different INFJ, but the Jungian INFJ is almost synonymous with IEI INFp of Socionics.
    Yes, because socionics functions and MBTI functions are exactly the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    Yes, because socionics functions and MBTI functions are exactly the same.
    So you did agree with me? Also, what do you see as the role of the INFJ in society, as he/she is perceived in general?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion 4.5 View Post
    So you did agree with me?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lion 4.5 View Post
    Also, what do you see as the role of the INFJ in society, as he/she is perceived in general?
    I see INFJs as councillors, protectors and natural philosophers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    No.



    I see INFJs as councillors, protectors and natural philosophers.
    Okay, then you must agree with me. The modern world pays no attention to any of those three things. I have never had an opportunity to play those roles in a productive way. It just isn't wanted . . . We are really just as outdated as the SLE, ESTP. Only we don't go to prison. We just fade out of existence. I think our types are rare because we are on the verge of extinction. Historically I don't think we were rare.

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