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    Default Unsure what my type is, please help (questionnaire included)

    Hey guys. I've been having some personality typing issues.
    I seem to have got several different results over the course of a couple of years.

    1) What aspect of your personality made you unsure of your type?
    The results I have gotten before are ISFP, INTP, INTJ, ENTP, ESFJ, ISTJ, ESFP and ENFP.
    I feel on the surface as if I have adjusted in character throughout this time by external factors, like as if I kept reinventing myself to find out who I am exactly. Trouble is, I can feel fake being a certain way because I am so unsure what my personality is on a more cognitive level and that's not something I find to easily explore on my own as subconsciously I may want to be more like a certain type than I actually am psychologically. So hopefully here I can find my real type.

    2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?
    Some sense of belonging, preferably to people like me (like a common interest) to some degree.
    Freedom and lots of interesting things to do (i.e. I wouldn't get on well living on some tiny desert island with nothing to do or stuck in some highly assertive job dealing with packing the same old items - those are some of my worst nightmares).
    A career that is quite challenging but not too stressful (I can get some strong physical symptoms when stressed).
    My dream career preference would be in the arts but I would like a degree of freedom for my own creativity if possible.
    Friends, since I really have none after being home educated, preferably of mutual interest but who are kind and even somewhat affectionate or just good and "there", imaginative yet grounded, feeling yet stable. I am a bit judging in terms of close friends but given the chance, I don't think I would be so much with acquaintances. Agoraphobia keeps me a hermit away from any potential social life and my current town of residence isn't all too interpersonal from what I have seen and in the summer is bombarded with tourists (seaside resort).
    I wouldn't mind publicity, either. I would like that to advocate my visions and support the causes that I sympathesise with. I am fair comfortable with just having some community worth/notability, however, it would make me feel like I belong.

    Intellectual speaking, my goals are in getting my technological and art degrees.
    I feel like I'm slipping up on the technological side of things, I seem to be losing interest in the sciences for the lack of a creative exploration complimentary to my goals within it at this stage.

    3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
    I felt enthusiastic, well-performing, energised, happy, driven, it felt like the world was my oyster and I would come off very optimistic and feel very adventurous, talkative and sociable. What made me feel that way was a philosophical discussion with others where I realised they agreed with my perspective on life and all the things to do thanks to this agreeance, I felt reassured and no longer a complete alien, my mind was full of ideas and possibilities that expanded the discussion and that was agreed, too. People say I can sometimes sound like a crazy professor in a eureka moment becoming energised by alk the possibilities when I get that excited. I don't socialise much so moment like that can be pretty rare to occur.
    Other times I feel very ecstastic when people agree with my values but it's less energetic than mutual life philosophy in general.

    4) What makes you feel inferior?
    When others disagree with my worldview or try to see it as invalid (i.e. careless to my causes), use me for my sympathy and find me too imaginative and thus illogical in their mind even though it seems logical enough compared to other things to me (for example, I value creativity above formal business in terms of what I find enjoyable).

    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)
    I like to be appropriate, I can, when I can, attempt to fit perfect ideals so others may value and accept me better. For example, I may compromise between appropriate self image and what I feel comfortable with and try to somewhat excel as a beginner when I try something new. However, I am also often very often quite unconscious of myself in a casual atmosphere. I like to respect other people's values socially, however I may find these incompatible, so I rather much find a group that suits me better than myself just attempting fit in. Since I experience physical symptoms from stress and anxiety, I tend to avoid decisions or groups whereby I feel socially incompatible on a value level as I am rather sensitive to other people's school of thought and values if they contradict mine enough. I don't see myself selfish in much of my decisions, if in theory someone I was close friends with really needed me I would value their needs above my own unless I absolutely mandatorily had to do something else life-saving and/or it really affected some career or course I was doing and even then I would possibly try to be excused. I'm very indecisive sometimes when buying something for someone and can feel let down if it wasn't good enough and it was reasonable for them to say so, I tend to pick what is appropriate and jumps out or what I thought they wanted (within reasonable price, of course). Also, I am pretty moral in my decisions where it can cause potential damagr, but I see the exception to the rules sometimes.

    6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?
    It depends. Sometimes I just love brainstorming ideas on a project but often that comes to nothing more than an adventure and I go onto the next project, often half-way through the previous unless I really feel like I'm onto something really interesting. I like to match up to the best standard possible at my level if I can but can easily miss detail by focusing too much on the bigger picture or the real intricate detail. Trying my best isn't so much a superiority thing, it's more an attempt to improve skills as much a possible and gain some sense of validation as I have been treat inferior in the past by some people - being the best actually scares me, it sort of makes me think that there's no challenge anymore so I avoid subjects I find too easy often unless it's mandatory to do engage in them.

    7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?
    Do childhood memories count? My idea of fun is very child-like, where one goes on a fantasy fuelled adventure with friends or where I'm doing something fun with those I really relate to or mutual activities I enjoy with acquaintances that relate to me in some respect (even if it's just the interest). Mind that my current social life is very low, though I'd like this to change once a few things are finally finished and out in the open.

    8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)
    I like to be hands on quite a lot, but not with domestic things so much as artistic or just fun leisurely activities. I like to theorise with others who share my doctrine of thought (i.e. progression) but I do not like to debate such matters, if I am wrong on something I like to learn in my own time or adjust the framework where it's only slightly wrong. I am not a big one on memory, I can be a fast learner on certain things and contradictory or once unbelievable realisations can depress me quite fast. I tend to choose to learn what benefits towards my inner goals or just as surface, fun knowledge (i.e. trivia, sayings, occasionally non-English words).

    9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?
    Well, domestically, looking around me - most things seem in place, a pile of rubbish may build up here and there but with maturity I have learnt to clean up.
    I don't really do any task schedules, strict routines or store any to do lists. I kind of go on a whim, I know what I want and if I have to obey some routine I can find it a little irritating and thus I become quite rebellious, subconsciously pushing measures in place.

    My tablet device is full of unfinished or unused plans and walls of philosophical hypothesis text I will probably never read. But I feel I learn from outputting these things (almost as if I am thinking out loud) and storing them in case I ever want to review this text (the text of which being largely self-inspiring reviews of potential and methods - often brainstorm-like).

    10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?
    I evaluate by values and if it is beneficial to my goals and if it is logical or not. I tend to accumulate ideas in my head and then think back to one I heard about and if it applies to what I am currently thinking about, it may well become a part of my vision at the time or even become an argument to some practical matter.

    11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?
    A bit of both, really. If I am group for an extended period of time, I start to become concerned with its people, I don't like to see someone struggling or being hurt in a group yet sometimes self-preservation kicks in and in order to prevent also joining their suffering I try to either assert this as an issue, tell the person with issues the group may not be the best place for them or I do drop my personal needs and try to support them by making acquaintance but it depends if it's my place to do so. I try not to be selfish but I am not the strongest person, myself, to be a group supporter, so to speak - especially if the person won't help themselves.

    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?
    I like group discussions, one to one and the online equivalents. I am much more careful with my speaking if I feel I will be judged in the long run, though, I am pretty careful with what I say in general. I don't like to annoy others and due to my lack of social experience, I tend to let most people speak first unless I can make better judgement of how they would react. I am conflict avoidant and can easily feel embarrassed if I say the wrong thing, though I haven't always been. I try to simulate discussions in my head to help me gain a sense of appropriateness and a means of gaining interesting conversation, all else is on whim. I can be pretty slow with intellectual questions, those are the only ones that make me jump from being sociable to answering the question. I can be critical in my environment towards art and music, but that's more triggered by a loose sense of envy perhaps, as being at least somewhat of rookie in certain art forms, myself. I am anti-pessimistic and can appear annoying to some people I feel if I'm trying to make the group aura happier, I don't bash someone being upset but my everything-will-be-ok mindset can be perceived as child-like or careless, whereas I feel I just want us all to feel better and I don't mean to be selfish or anything like that.

    13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?
    I like to know where I am leaping, though I have found myself entering ruts of not helping myself although I want to, and making commitments and realising they weren't so practical. I have many fears so I won't jump on, say, a rollercoaster because I'm pretty scared of such things, but things I am ok with I can often turn quite a blind eye but I have done this enough to start learning not to, now.

    14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?
    If well, go out. I could always record or catch up such things and I don't really watch much TV besides my family's tradition of watching the hit Saturday night sci-fi/fantasy programme on BBC1 (such as Dr Who) and the game and talent shows. I rarely watch TV in live time and I much prefer films, I find not much fun in watching reality TV unless it's a random lazy afternoon and a zoological or homes purchase programme is on or something, I will even watch cartoons, too (I prefer the older ones). I am not that traditional, mind, I just have some grounding comforts since the TV was once pretty centric escapism for the end of the day. I may have people online who want to talk to me so I must consider them, too. I wouldn't mind going out anyday I am free, to have a blast. I am frequently cooped up at home, etc, and love a change of scenery. Note: I sometimes have nausea with eating which makes me feel uncomfortable eating out so if it's eating out, especially exotic things, that'd be another factor to say no.

    15) How do you act when you're stressed out?
    The only time I feel stressed out is of the whole world is against me or if I'm bombarded with forms, some health issues and assignments. Which is pretty rare. I tend to be more anxious than stressed and can experience a big loss of energy and affection and distracting myself with fantastical things or just my favourite things in general helps me, I would in effect go on a binge on fantasy and reassure myself by diving into philosophy and finding myself while dodging existential depression and the issues that are more immediate. I don't know if I'm somewhat schizophrenic or whatever but I have voices in my head that aren't me, but it's not an unhealthy thing in my case, it's more like invisible friends and they steer me back to good thought patterns and help me deal with my issues by telling me to think straight (psychs don't seem bothered by this, hence - I only really go to psychs for my agoraphobia, to note). On a second note, my actual own personal inner voice is very optimistic and chatty and helps me analyse and judge things better.

    16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?
    People who are too rigid or too lawless. I like people who have common sense and are balanced.
    I don't like people who are contrary to my values or like to start intellectual conflicts. I don't like people who are too more or less intellectual than me, I like people who are a balance between ground and imaginative or who can help me with what I just can't do who I can return the favour to for what I am seemingly better at than them (yin and yang sort of thing). I don't like strict or violent people or know it alls or preachers and exhibitionists for things I don't like. I believe in liberties but I also believe people should have the freedom to avoid such things. I don't like abusers, those obnoxious frat kids who use and are disrespectful to others, and I don't like bullies or blackmailers.

    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?
    Anything but practical things unless I can add something imaginative to it or we're talking about or sharing what we find mutually awesome, People discussing their latest home improving buy and things at work don't make me feel connected, I like to feel engaged and I like to talk about interesting things or how in a group we all relate to each other or the dynamic as to which one of us is the Tom, Dick or Harry (typology stuff even, sometimes). A really fun discussion for me involves spontaneous roleplay, because I am big kid like that. Talking about ridiculous fun things like vegetarian zombies, how awesome it would be if we went on a trip to disneyland and enter a real fantasy world somehow, and how riding red pegasuses over the pink purple sun as the rainbow leprechauns waves us off into the distance would be an interesting scene. Yeah, I'm kind of crazy in my head to some people.

    18) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life?
    Currently? Cosmetics, fashion, chores, current affairs, indie/pop music culture, TV trends and bills.

    19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? What would your friends never say about your personality?
    Right now I only have internet friends. Those are mostly feeling or slightly geeky people. They tend to see me as friendly, e-affectionate (I can never have enough virtual hugs), bipolar from outgoing to pretty casual and like to stay in contact. They would never say I was that cold or calculative unless depressed or overly annoying or draining but they may say I sound distracted sometimes yet talkative at others times. Now it's mostly text based communication due to technical reasons which I am increasingly becoming bored of. I really want to develop an offline social life yet my location and specific interests aren't all that compatible, I don't really go anywhere to meet anyone and this will hopefully change soon with engagement in classes and then even certain kinds of clubs since I'm old enough now and all that (mind due, I get shocked when I realise I'm not 14 or something anymore).

    20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?
    I can't stand being on my own so I at least have to chat online and even engage in things like this sometimes.
    If I had to be entirely alone I would try to focus on being creative, music, downloading music, may be dance about, do random stuff like make faces at myself in the mirror or build a pyramid from stationary and entertain myself with random stuff as a child would with toys and if I break something of someone else's possession and do something to make it better in the process of making that worse I would put on a poker face and try not to laugh as that wouldn't be very appropriate in my eyes. If I could go out with just one or two people or so I would enjoy taking a long leisurely walk in the country/forests, may be playing some game together or if it's with more than two others, party/game, engage in leisurely activities (some loose sport even, though I suck at sports, usually since I'm pretty weak physically in that respect) or go to the cinema may be, I guess.

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    Ne: 2, 3, 6, 9, 17, 20, and I stopped trying to list all of it :P

    F: 3, 12, 19

    but I saw Fe too so I dunno about that..

    and enneagram 7-ish in: 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinity- View Post
    Ne: 2, 3, 6, 9, 17, 20, and I stopped trying to list all of it :P

    F: 3, 12, 19

    but I saw Fe too so I dunno about that..

    and enneagram 7-ish in: 15
    What would Fe imply?
    I looked at Fi and Fe, both seem pretty much me.
    I've never been seen as too selfish or selfless in myself, I'm quite a compromiser.
    So Fi is energised by supporting their cause and Fe is energised by maintaining the social harmony? This is really quite a grey area if that's the case.

    My ethical decisions aren't even necessarily emotional as Fi implies, though, sometimes I don't mind supporting those who have gone against my ethics yet like Fi seems to imply, I avoid it eventually so as to not feel so down and keep to supporting what feels right.
    I also adjust social ethics with the group, too. In general I dislike swearing yet when I'm with certain people it suddenly seems ok yet if I'm really anxious I can become conscious that it's bad and that some higher like karma or a god or something will strike me down. A few of my values are absorbed from the crowd I spent a long time with, for example, my family are animal lovers therefore I have quite a strong sense of animal rights, yet now I seem to empathesise directly, too.

    Plus lately I've seen a critical side to me as noted as I have been towards the arts. Ti or even possibly an Fi thing? I really don't like it when people closely copy songs, for example and I become analytical of this yet it might be because I feel it is wrong, may be? I am sometimes quick to critique but that is probably a little bit of jealousy.
    Is this a case of ENTP vs ENFP then? I.e. Ti & Fe vs Te & Fi?
    In one thread it says that Te is following the rules as much as you can, I can be both lackadaisical and overly driven towards getting the best results, sometimes it is effiency, sometimes it's precision.

    I wouldn't say I was very critical to the point of anti-social, I can be annoyed by the overly analytical sometimes as I can see it as cold hearted.
    I wouldn't say I was overly assertive either but when I plan for myself it seems I'm gearing it towards effiency and also inspiration towards the new challenge.

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    Sounds like you overthink like a lot. I used to have this problem. Could be wrong, but my suggestion to you is to think less and just act on your instincts for a while. What that means is be and do exactly what YOU want, all the time. After you've being doing that for a while, it might be ablt to type your self better. Idk, hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collierm48 View Post
    Sounds like you overthink like a lot. I used to have this problem. Could be wrong, but my suggestion to you is to think less and just act on your instincts for a while. What that means is be and do exactly what YOU want, all the time. After you've being doing that for a while, it might be ablt to type your self better. Idk, hope that helps.
    I've been told I overthink things. Acting on my instincts I tend to want to walk out with nature and go on an adventure with somebody. I just want to be away, to imagine, explore where I don't know what's ahead so I have the thrill of surprise but a degree of safety. I feel like I sort of crave affection on a more primal level and plenty of my attempts at success have been to get that besides balance in the social group.
    I used to not overthink things and I was simply playful, I often had to play alone even as a young kid but I always wanted to meet someone and was energised by that which I can see is a degree of extroversion. I feel like I often want to initiate a conversation but people I actually do run into don't seem too sociable because I think I take how a person's feeling from their facial expression and whether they'd want to talk to someone of my age. According to another thread that's regarded being an extrovert who doesn't have much chance or is shy. Supposing I am an Ne user then that may well explain why I enjoy imaginative discussions, I definitely see the "see the world in many possibilities" thing going on, though I suppose I could be more attracted to this trait than a natural user of it, apparently? Which confuses me further if that's so, which makes me think if it's all about functions I'd have to test each one in me.

    I don't actually talk this sort of serious most of the time but when I am talking on serious things on most occasions I am either entirely avoidant to the topic or submerged into it. I prefer to theorise than criticise, often jokingly, yet at certain times I may be seen fastidious. I'm getting pretty high Se and Ne on this Jung test I did, if I'm more S than I realise it would most likely be to do with my parents keeping me away from the practical and wrapping me up in cotton wool (metaphorically speaking) from a young age, causing me to be forced into a hermit / nerd like lifestyle I don't feel very at ease within. This is why I want to know my type, I'm getting confused to which way is better for me cognitively and I think the mbti, etc, will may be help me.

    From a young age I wasn't very well engaged in the intellectual, at least not beyond sci-fi esque pseudo-theories, I preferred to be social despite lack of opportunity and would enjoy things that are both logical and creative in terms of toys, such as the slightly more advanced types of Lego. My imagination is pretty exaggerative, adventure-filled, promising of beauty and complexity, like an idealism of what I like best in the world around me and fantastical projections of the philosophical, I create entire worlds and even characters in my head yet I am also just as engaged in this world so I think this may be an idealist or visionary attribute. I don't know if this implies Fi, Ni or Ne, there is a lot of intense sensory experience in my imaginative worlds, like bright and intense or surreal and enchanting. Is it a trait of Se to enjoy intense things on the surface? I also just like imagining concepts. In the jung tests I am a balance of Se and Ne so that's confusing. Ti/Te and Fi/Fe seems balanced, too, Si seems pretty weak but I feel sadness from things like nostalgia sometimes.

    I'm just firing on this out, just to see what one or two things might clarify my type, possibly, sorry if I seem to be typing a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel94 View Post
    I've been told I overthink things. Acting on my instincts I tend to want to walk out with nature and go on an adventure with somebody. I just want to be away, to imagine, explore where I don't know what's ahead so I have the thrill of surprise but a degree of safety. I feel like I sort of crave affection on a more primal level and plenty of my attempts at success have been to get that besides balance in the social group.
    I used to not overthink things and I was simply playful, I often had to play alone even as a young kid but I always wanted to meet someone and was energised by that which I can see is a degree of extroversion. I feel like I often want to initiate a conversation but people I actually do run into don't seem too sociable because I think I take how a person's feeling from their facial expression and whether they'd want to talk to someone of my age. According to another thread that's regarded being an extrovert who doesn't have much chance or is shy. Supposing I am an Ne user then that may well explain why I enjoy imaginative discussions, I definitely see the "see the world in many possibilities" thing going on, though I suppose I could be more attracted to this trait than a natural user of it, apparently? Which confuses me further if that's so, which makes me think if it's all about functions I'd have to test each one in me.

    I don't actually talk this sort of serious most of the time but when I am talking on serious things on most occasions I am either entirely avoidant to the topic or submerged into it. I prefer to theorise than criticise, often jokingly, yet at certain times I may be seen fastidious. I'm getting pretty high Se and Ne on this Jung test I did, if I'm more S than I realise it would most likely be to do with my parents keeping me away from the practical and wrapping me up in cotton wool (metaphorically speaking) from a young age, causing me to be forced into a hermit / nerd like lifestyle I don't feel very at ease within. This is why I want to know my type, I'm getting confused to which way is better for me cognitively and I think the mbti, etc, will may be help me.

    From a young age I wasn't very well engaged in the intellectual, at least not beyond sci-fi esque pseudo-theories, I preferred to be social despite lack of opportunity and would enjoy things that are both logical and creative in terms of toys, such as the slightly more advanced types of Lego. My imagination is pretty exaggerative, adventure-filled, promising of beauty and complexity, like an idealism of what I like best in the world around me and fantastical projections of the philosophical, I create entire worlds and even characters in my head yet I am also just as engaged in this world so I think this may be an idealist or visionary attribute. I don't know if this implies Fi, Ni or Ne, there is a lot of intense sensory experience in my imaginative worlds, like bright and intense or surreal and enchanting. Is it a trait of Se to enjoy intense things on the surface? I also just like imagining concepts. In the jung tests I am a balance of Se and Ne so that's confusing. Ti/Te and Fi/Fe seems balanced, too, Si seems pretty weak but I feel sadness from things like nostalgia sometimes.

    I'm just firing on this out, just to see what one or two things might clarify my type, possibly, sorry if I seem to be typing a lot.

    Yeah man. Idk, just the fact that your typingthis much shows that youre overthinking. Myers briggs is cool man, but if i could give you some advice, it would just be to concentrate on a few goals in your life and work towards them. Nothing regenerates a mind to a healthy state like accomplishing some good real life goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel94 View Post
    2) What do you yearn for in life? Why?
    Some sense of belonging, preferably to people like me (like a common interest) to some degree.
    Freedom and lots of interesting things to do (i.e. I wouldn't get on well living on some tiny desert island with nothing to do or stuck in some highly assertive job dealing with packing the same old items - those are some of my worst nightmares).
    A career that is quite challenging but not too stressful (I can get some strong physical symptoms when stressed).
    My dream career preference would be in the arts but I would like a degree of freedom for my own creativity if possible.
    Friends, since I really have none after being home educated, preferably of mutual interest but who are kind and even somewhat affectionate or just good and "there", imaginative yet grounded, feeling yet stable. I am a bit judging in terms of close friends but given the chance, I don't think I would be so much with acquaintances. Agoraphobia keeps me a hermit away from any potential social life and my current town of residence isn't all too interpersonal from what I have seen and in the summer is bombarded with tourists (seaside resort).
    I wouldn't mind publicity, either. I would like that to advocate my visions and support the causes that I sympathesise with. I am fair comfortable with just having some community worth/notability, however, it would make me feel like I belong.

    Intellectual speaking, my goals are in getting my technological and art degrees.
    I feel like I'm slipping up on the technological side of things, I seem to be losing interest in the sciences for the lack of a creative exploration complimentary to my goals within it at this stage.

    This part sounds to me like INFP...

    3) Think about a time where you felt like you were at your finest. Tell us what made you feel that way.
    I felt enthusiastic, well-performing, energised, happy, driven, it felt like the world was my oyster and I would come off very optimistic and feel very adventurous, talkative and sociable. What made me feel that way was a philosophical discussion with others where I realised they agreed with my perspective on life and all the things to do thanks to this agreeance, I felt reassured and no longer a complete alien, my mind was full of ideas and possibilities that expanded the discussion and that was agreed, too. People say I can sometimes sound like a crazy professor in a eureka moment becoming energised by alk the possibilities when I get that excited. I don't socialise much so moment like that can be pretty rare to occur.
    Other times I feel very ecstastic when people agree with my values but it's less energetic than mutual life philosophy in general.

    Still INFP...

    4) What makes you feel inferior?
    When others disagree with my worldview or try to see it as invalid (i.e. careless to my causes), use me for my sympathy and find me too imaginative and thus illogical in their mind even though it seems logical enough compared to other things to me (for example, I value creativity above formal business in terms of what I find enjoyable).

    Fi-dom hurt experienced when personal values are invalidated...

    5) What tends to weigh on your decisions? (Do you think about people, pro-cons, how you feel about it, etc.)
    I like to be appropriate, I can, when I can, attempt to fit perfect ideals so others may value and accept me better. For example, I may compromise between appropriate self image and what I feel comfortable with and try to somewhat excel as a beginner when I try something new. However, I am also often very often quite unconscious of myself in a casual atmosphere. I like to respect other people's values socially, however I may find these incompatible, so I rather much find a group that suits me better than myself just attempting fit in. Since I experience physical symptoms from stress and anxiety, I tend to avoid decisions or groups whereby I feel socially incompatible on a value level as I am rather sensitive to other people's school of thought and values if they contradict mine enough. I don't see myself selfish in much of my decisions, if in theory someone I was close friends with really needed me I would value their needs above my own unless I absolutely mandatorily had to do something else life-saving and/or it really affected some career or course I was doing and even then I would possibly try to be excused. I'm very indecisive sometimes when buying something for someone and can feel let down if it wasn't good enough and it was reasonable for them to say so, I tend to pick what is appropriate and jumps out or what I thought they wanted (within reasonable price, of course). Also, I am pretty moral in my decisions where it can cause potential damagr, but I see the exception to the rules sometimes.

    Don't know...

    6) When working on a project what is normally your emphasis? Do you like to have control of the outcome?
    It depends. Sometimes I just love brainstorming ideas on a project but often that comes to nothing more than an adventure and I go onto the next project, often half-way through the previous unless I really feel like I'm onto something really interesting. I like to match up to the best standard possible at my level if I can but can easily miss detail by focusing too much on the bigger picture or the real intricate detail. Trying my best isn't so much a superiority thing, it's more an attempt to improve skills as much a possible and gain some sense of validation as I have been treat inferior in the past by some people - being the best actually scares me, it sort of makes me think that there's no challenge anymore so I avoid subjects I find too easy often unless it's mandatory to do engage in them.

    Ne?

    7) Describe us a time where you had a lot of fun. How is your memory of it?
    Do childhood memories count? My idea of fun is very child-like, where one goes on a fantasy fuelled adventure with friends or where I'm doing something fun with those I really relate to or mutual activities I enjoy with acquaintances that relate to me in some respect (even if it's just the interest). Mind that my current social life is very low, though I'd like this to change once a few things are finally finished and out in the open.

    Introvert?

    8) When you want to learn something new, what feels more natural for you? (Are you more prone to be hands on, to theorize, to memorize, etc)
    I like to be hands on quite a lot, but not with domestic things so much as artistic or just fun leisurely activities. I like to theorise with others who share my doctrine of thought (i.e. progression) but I do not like to debate such matters, if I am wrong on something I like to learn in my own time or adjust the framework where it's only slightly wrong. I am not a big one on memory, I can be a fast learner on certain things and contradictory or once unbelievable realisations can depress me quite fast. I tend to choose to learn what benefits towards my inner goals or just as surface, fun knowledge (i.e. trivia, sayings, occasionally non-English words).

    Generate ideas about personal values and goals...Fi-Ne...

    9) How organized do you to think of yourself as?
    Well, domestically, looking around me - most things seem in place, a pile of rubbish may build up here and there but with maturity I have learnt to clean up.
    I don't really do any task schedules, strict routines or store any to do lists. I kind of go on a whim, I know what I want and if I have to obey some routine I can find it a little irritating and thus I become quite rebellious, subconsciously pushing measures in place.

    My tablet device is full of unfinished or unused plans and walls of philosophical hypothesis text I will probably never read. But I feel I learn from outputting these things (almost as if I am thinking out loud) and storing them in case I ever want to review this text (the text of which being largely self-inspiring reviews of potential and methods - often brainstorm-like).

    Ne...I do the storing away thing too though...

    10) How do you judge new ideas? You try to understand the principles behind it to see if they make sense or do you look for information that supports it?
    I evaluate by values and if it is beneficial to my goals and if it is logical or not. I tend to accumulate ideas in my head and then think back to one I heard about and if it applies to what I am currently thinking about, it may well become a part of my vision at the time or even become an argument to some practical matter.

    Fi-dom...you are integrating into your personal framework of "who you are" the external values that align with that personal framework or identity... I guess you are integrating into your identity the external values that "glorify" that existing identity (i.e. your self) and rejecting those that conflict with it...I guess it's some kind of ego protection mechanism...

    11) You find harmony by making sure everyone is doing fine and belonging to a given group or by making sure that you follow what you believe and being yourself?
    A bit of both, really. If I am group for an extended period of time, I start to become concerned with its people, I don't like to see someone struggling or being hurt in a group yet sometimes self-preservation kicks in and in order to prevent also joining their suffering I try to either assert this as an issue, tell the person with issues the group may not be the best place for them or I do drop my personal needs and try to support them by making acquaintance but it depends if it's my place to do so. I try not to be selfish but I am not the strongest person, myself, to be a group supporter, so to speak - especially if the person won't help themselves.

    Fi=pack mentality... Fe=herd mentality... you more like have a pack mentality towards "your group" of people...So Fi-dom...

    12) Are you the kind that thinks before speaking or do you speak before thinking? Do you prefer one-on-one communication or group discussions?
    I like group discussions, one to one and the online equivalents. I am much more careful with my speaking if I feel I will be judged in the long run, though, I am pretty careful with what I say in general. I don't like to annoy others and due to my lack of social experience, I tend to let most people speak first unless I can make better judgement of how they would react. I am conflict avoidant and can easily feel embarrassed if I say the wrong thing, though I haven't always been. I try to simulate discussions in my head to help me gain a sense of appropriateness and a means of gaining interesting conversation, all else is on whim. I can be pretty slow with intellectual questions, those are the only ones that make me jump from being sociable to answering the question. I can be critical in my environment towards art and music, but that's more triggered by a loose sense of envy perhaps, as being at least somewhat of rookie in certain art forms, myself. I am anti-pessimistic and can appear annoying to some people I feel if I'm trying to make the group aura happier, I don't bash someone being upset but my everything-will-be-ok mindset can be perceived as child-like or careless, whereas I feel I just want us all to feel better and I don't mean to be selfish or anything like that.

    Perhaps you are trying to elevate yourself to or above the level of owners of those artwork? Still INFP...

    13) Do you jump into action right away or do you like to know where are you jumping before leaping? Does action speaks more than words?
    I like to know where I am leaping, though I have found myself entering ruts of not helping myself although I want to, and making commitments and realising they weren't so practical. I have many fears so I won't jump on, say, a rollercoaster because I'm pretty scared of such things, but things I am ok with I can often turn quite a blind eye but I have done this enough to start learning not to, now.

    Not a Se or Ne-dom...INFP...

    14) It's Saturday. You're at home, and your favorite show is about to start. Your friends call you for a night out. What will you do?
    If well, go out. I could always record or catch up such things and I don't really watch much TV besides my family's tradition of watching the hit Saturday night sci-fi/fantasy programme on BBC1 (such as Dr Who) and the game and talent shows. I rarely watch TV in live time and I much prefer films, I find not much fun in watching reality TV unless it's a random lazy afternoon and a zoological or homes purchase programme is on or something, I will even watch cartoons, too (I prefer the older ones). I am not that traditional, mind, I just have some grounding comforts since the TV was once pretty centric escapism for the end of the day. I may have people online who want to talk to me so I must consider them, too. I wouldn't mind going out anyday I am free, to have a blast. I am frequently cooped up at home, etc, and love a change of scenery. Note: I sometimes have nausea with eating which makes me feel uncomfortable eating out so if it's eating out, especially exotic things, that'd be another factor to say no.

    The length of your answer screams to me: INFP!!!

    15) How do you act when you're stressed out?
    The only time I feel stressed out is of the whole world is against me or if I'm bombarded with forms, some health issues and assignments. Which is pretty rare. I tend to be more anxious than stressed and can experience a big loss of energy and affection and distracting myself with fantastical things or just my favourite things in general helps me, I would in effect go on a binge on fantasy and reassure myself by diving into philosophy and finding myself while dodging existential depression and the issues that are more immediate. I don't know if I'm somewhat schizophrenic or whatever but I have voices in my head that aren't me, but it's not an unhealthy thing in my case, it's more like invisible friends and they steer me back to good thought patterns and help me deal with my issues by telling me to think straight (psychs don't seem bothered by this, hence - I only really go to psychs for my agoraphobia, to note). On a second note, my actual own personal inner voice is very optimistic and chatty and helps me analyse and judge things better.

    Existential = fancy word = INFP!!! Voices in head=Ne?

    16) What makes you dislike the personalities of some people?
    People who are too rigid or too lawless. I like people who have common sense and are balanced.
    I don't like people who are contrary to my values or like to start intellectual conflicts. I don't like people who are too more or less intellectual than me, I like people who are a balance between ground and imaginative or who can help me with what I just can't do who I can return the favour to for what I am seemingly better at than them (yin and yang sort of thing). I don't like strict or violent people or know it alls or preachers and exhibitionists for things I don't like. I believe in liberties but I also believe people should have the freedom to avoid such things. I don't like abusers, those obnoxious frat kids who use and are disrespectful to others, and I don't like bullies or blackmailers.

    Common sense and balanced = F people... But not the Fe-doms...Also you don't like T-doms\auxs... as well as Se\Ne-doms...You basically don't like extraverts...except for ENFPs perhaps...?.

    17) Is there anything you really like talking about with other people?
    Anything but practical things unless I can add something imaginative to it or we're talking about or sharing what we find mutually awesome, People discussing their latest home improving buy and things at work don't make me feel connected, I like to feel engaged and I like to talk about interesting things or how in a group we all relate to each other or the dynamic as to which one of us is the Tom, Dick or Harry (typology stuff even, sometimes). A really fun discussion for me involves spontaneous roleplay, because I am big kid like that. Talking about ridiculous fun things like vegetarian zombies, how awesome it would be if we went on a trip to disneyland and enter a real fantasy world somehow, and how riding red pegasuses over the pink purple sun as the rainbow leprechauns waves us off into the distance would be an interesting scene. Yeah, I'm kind of crazy in my head to some people.

    N-dom...doesn't like to talk about Se or Te stuff...

    18) What kind of things do pay the least attention to in your life?
    Currently? Cosmetics, fashion, chores, current affairs, indie/pop music culture, TV trends and bills.

    indie = hipster = INFP!!! ... I like indie films too though (when they are indee "good" not because they are "indie")...

    19) How do your friends perceive you? What is wrong about their perception? What would your friends never say about your personality?
    Right now I only have internet friends. Those are mostly feeling or slightly geeky people. They tend to see me as friendly, e-affectionate (I can never have enough virtual hugs), bipolar from outgoing to pretty casual and like to stay in contact. They would never say I was that cold or calculative unless depressed or overly annoying or draining but they may say I sound distracted sometimes yet talkative at others times. Now it's mostly text based communication due to technical reasons which I am increasingly becoming bored of. I really want to develop an offline social life yet my location and specific interests aren't all that compatible, I don't really go anywhere to meet anyone and this will hopefully change soon with engagement in classes and then even certain kinds of clubs since I'm old enough now and all that (mind due, I get shocked when I realise I'm not 14 or something anymore).

    I get shocked when I realize that 1990 was 24 years ago... Hope you make some nice NF and NT friends out there...

    20) You got a whole day to do whatever you like. What kind of activities do you feel like doing?
    I can't stand being on my own so I at least have to chat online and even engage in things like this sometimes.
    If I had to be entirely alone I would try to focus on being creative, music, downloading music, may be dance about, do random stuff like make faces at myself in the mirror or build a pyramid from stationary and entertain myself with random stuff as a child would with toys and if I break something of someone else's possession and do something to make it better in the process of making that worse I would put on a poker face and try not to laugh as that wouldn't be very appropriate in my eyes. If I could go out with just one or two people or so I would enjoy taking a long leisurely walk in the country/forests, may be playing some game together or if it's with more than two others, party/game, engage in leisurely activities (some loose sport even, though I suck at sports, usually since I'm pretty weak physically in that respect) or go to the cinema may be, I guess.
    Thanks for your valuable input... I'd say you are an INFP... check whether online descriptions fit...Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by collierm48 View Post
    Yeah man. Idk, just the fact that your typingthis much shows that youre overthinking. Myers briggs is cool man, but if i could give you some advice, it would just be to concentrate on a few goals in your life and work towards them. Nothing regenerates a mind to a healthy state like accomplishing some good real life goals.
    I think it's whether I'm an introvert or extrovert that confuses me mostly.
    Most of my goals are all geared up towards meeting others, yet for my lonely childhood I have also had to compensate with my imagination. I definitely don't find talking to others draining, it can be hard to shut me up once I'm going (online and off) and I feel bad when a conversation has to be cut short.
    At the same time if I'm actually an introvert I don't want to over-commit myself to the social in case I suddenly don't want to talk to people as much anymore, I don't know if I'd do this or not but I wouldn't want to hurt others if I did. When it comes to theoretical things I'm usually the one to start it if I know people wont conflict because I know they won't or it's something that others won't want to argue on, if it is something I want to assert I make sure I'm outspoken, usually with information sources at the ready. I refuse to just make someone miserable, though, even if I dislike them somewhat, I'd rather walk away.

    Since mbti has confused me as to how I really am, I want to fix it so then I can get on with getting my life to the next level. I usually don't like labels but I feel so confused about this, it's like I need to know.

    @yeghor:
    Thanks for your input.

    When I was younger (6-14ish) it was my ideas that tended to make my values. Besides imaginative play (personification of toys, etc) I was obsessed with cosmology, inventions, creative programming. I was avoidant to the more tedious school subjects and much rather communicate my ideas (is that kind of ENTP-esque?) I didn't mind invading others' personal space as I was very affectionate/playful and I was bullied for my playful optimism, that lead me to feeling traumatised and spaced out / cut off and lonely. I was diagnosed with ADHD at one time but I was not medicated.
    Once I was around 15 and all of sudden I was starting to create myself based upon imagination and fantasy characters but I felt a bit invalid as I would occasionally create drama or someone else would, much of this was online or social clubs. I would not get too attached to an identity and didn't have much ego as I didn't care much if people forgot me, in fact on the surface I found new friends more fun.

    My values became concrete by the age of 17 and I became more sensitive (mostly due to medical anxieties, like agoraphobia, unhealthy image and feelings of ailment) but not attacking, rather avoidant. Sometimes I would exaggerate my emotions for attention.

    I am self-preserving due to early life bullying and I would say this has made me more image conscious because I see people with more ideal images as more appreciated and this not so attacked.
    It's not so much recognition I crave so much as peace.

    Actually I'm wondering by this if I'm Ne-Ti or something but my Ti became more Fi?
    So like this unusual ENTP-INFP hybrid, is it possible? Some sort of schizo or autistic esque trip up on the development of my functions?

    I measure on jung tests as Ne Ti Fi Se, by the way. The Se might be exaggerated as I am trained to quite some extent to be non-discriminatory to sensory things by various art forms.

    I tend to have three communication styles: enthusiastic lecturer on how things discussed are epic, serious and analytical and noticing how things seem so similar (I dislike monotony) and warm complimenting, hug mode (goes from joyous to lackadaisical in this state).

    I meant I was not interested in pop/indie, by the way, I only enjoy what trend I can relate with to others or random, unusual pieces of music. I listen to countless genres and bore easily of single ones, I am one who criticises the radio for playing music that isn't diverse or original.

    By the way, I dislike depressing or overly romantic things most of the time unless its original, funny and/or uplifting intense. I don't enjoy meaningful lyrics too much and prefer silly lyrics and to song them. INFP description hits me on the laziness but attracted to sad things? Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel94 View Post
    @yeghor:
    Thanks for your input.

    When I was younger (6-14ish) it was my ideas that tended to make my values. Besides imaginative play (personification of toys, etc) I was obsessed with cosmology, inventions, creative programming. I was avoidant to the more tedious school subjects and much rather communicate my ideas (is that kind of ENTP-esque?) I didn't mind invading others' personal space as I was very affectionate/playful and I was bullied for my playful optimism, that lead me to feeling traumatised and spaced out / cut off and lonely. I was diagnosed with ADHD at one time but I was not medicated.

    Once I was around 15 and all of sudden I was starting to create myself based upon imagination and fantasy characters but I felt a bit invalid as I would occasionally create drama or someone else would, much of this was online or social clubs. I would not get too attached to an identity and didn't have much ego as I didn't care much if people forgot me, in fact on the surface I found new friends more fun.

    My values became concrete by the age of 17 and I became more sensitive (mostly due to medical anxieties, like agoraphobia, unhealthy image and feelings of ailment) but not attacking, rather avoidant. Sometimes I would exaggerate my emotions for attention.

    I am self-preserving due to early life bullying and I would say this has made me more image conscious because I see people with more ideal images as more appreciated and this not so attacked.
    OK...ADHD manifests itself in impulsivity mainly and perhaps failure to recognize others' boundaries... So I believe you must have been an Ne or Se-dom growing up...my guess is an ENFP...

    However, people pushed back on your ENFP persona and you could no longer maintain it...It collapsed under its own weight and you have withdrawn inside...

    This is just a theory but I think I've gone thru a similar process as yours while growing up... I didn't know how to interact with my peers...was unpopular cause I couldn't stand my ground or didn't know how to push back at others... And some of my peers seeing this saw me as an easy target to bully etc...

    So I had to withdraw inside of myself...This happened around my early twenties though...I believe my ENFP childhood persona got turned inside out and went into hiding inside my now INFJ persona... I am in my 30s now and beginning to feel my ENFPish side more and more each day...

    I gained more awareness about life and myself in my late 20s...The process till then was a bit painful emotionally for me...

    So please, try to find people and things that make you happy...do not berate yourself or feel yourself as a weirdo... Everyone's one... Some are better at acting as if they aren't... Don't berate yourself if you don't have any boyfriend etc...Just reinforce your education and skills...Hang on till your late 20s when your character will be much more refined and strong... Life will become much fun and easier then... So remain hopeful about the future...

    Looking back, I see that I didn't know shit about life and myself back then...Some people of my age and above still don't...So consider any pain and hurt as a life experience that will make you a stronger person and rely on the strength of your loved and trusted ones... don't be embarrased about it or yourself... Focus on the positive...

    Cheers...

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