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Which XNXP Type??

Mondo

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I'm tired of taking MBTI tests- I always test right in the middle for I/E & T/F- gah!

Ne-yay!
Ti or Fi.. I know the difference but they can seem deceptively similar from a psychological perspective.
Ne- I know it well- it's my buddy but is it dominant or not?

I need help- haha.
Ask me some questions or something.
I'll give honest answers. ;)
 

arcticangel02

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Haha. :)

Tell me about a tough, personal decision you had to make, and why you did as you did.
 

Eric B

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I had the same I/E-T/F issues, and someone here asked me about a "tough, personal decision", and it was still ambiguous. It was really grasping Berens, Hartzler and Nardi's descriptions of the cognitive process, and then taking the cognitive processes test that finally got me squared away.

The issue might be "active shadows", meaning you may use a particular T or F {e, i} function a lot, and thus reflect it in your answer to the questions, but it is really under stress you use that function. When not under stress, more positive uses of the function by others might go right over your head (Fi was this way for me, though it looked like I used it a lot). So you have to ask what role does the function play (the "role" being the eight archetypes of eight-function theory, popularized by Beebe).
 

Mondo

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Haha. :)

Tell me about a tough, personal decision you had to make, and why you did as you did.

I think one of the toughest personal decisions I had to make was back in 8th grade. I was in a group of friends. Friend A & Friend B became enemies and couldn't stand being together anymore. I'm not even sure how the conflict started. Most of my friends immediately chose to side with Friend A and chose not to associate with Friend B as well. I tried to spend time with both but at the end I decided just to spend time with Friend A- even though I knew that it would leave Friend B alone- I decided that I enjoyed spending time better with Friend A and the other friends who quickly chose to take his side. It was some stupid 8th grade stuff- but yea. One thing I personally liked better about Friend A was that he was much less controlling than Friend B. Friend B made some other friends and our group lost a person. I don't know what that would indicate in terms of personality type but it was tough at the time. At the time, Friend A & Friend B would mostly just talk shit about each other- I barely remember what caused the rift in the first place. Then I left private school for public school and made new friends- the end.
 

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mrs
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So... Which are you more likely to have a preference for... Fi... or Ti.... and why.

It may help to consider your behavior under stress too.. Does Te come out to play and aid Fi or does Fe come out to play and aid Ti?
 

ThatsWhatHeSaid

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Ask me some questions or something.
I'll give honest answers. ;)

When did you lose your virginity?

What do you really think about Jurassic Park II?

Have you ever paid money in exchange for sexual favors?

What would you do for a Klondike bar?
 

Totenkindly

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Oh, dear, I hope we don't have to censor anything here... namely the response to Jurassic Park II.
 
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Ti or Fi.. I know the difference but they can seem deceptively similar from a psychological perspective.
Are you more likely to offend (even if it's unintentional) or be offended?

Ne- I know it well- it's my buddy but is it dominant or not?

I need help- haha.
Ask me some questions or something.
I'll give honest answers. ;)

Judging from your posting style you seem like an extrovert.
 

Mondo

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So... Which are you more likely to have a preference for... Fi... or Ti.... and why.

It may help to consider your behavior under stress too.. Does Te come out to play and aid Fi or does Fe come out to play and aid Ti?

That's a good point.
Under stress- I definitely feel the reign of Fe much more than Te. I can use Fe to my advantage- in terms of having a lot of empathy.

People are always so amazed that I know what they are thinking. I'm good at picking up on cues. A lot of times I use it to act a certain way when around others. There are many people who I wouldn't want to show my true self. I don't like being rejected by others.

In my fraternity, we have this "Senior Speak" function where the seniors give the others advice. All the seniors gave me the advice of 'being myself'.

From that standpoint, that would make me a empathic NT.


a.) When did you lose your virginity?

b.) What do you really think about Jurassic Park II?

c.) Have you ever paid money in exchange for sexual favors?

d.) What would you do for a Klondike bar?

a.) Four Score and Seven Years ago
b.) :steam:
c.) :shock:, I'm not this guy-->:pornstar:
d.) Become :jesus:

Are you more likely to offend (even if it's unintentional) or be offended?
I am more likely to offend others unintentionally. It's too easy to offend XXFJ types... :devil:

Judging from your posting style you seem like an extrovert.
Yea, I would say that Ne is king at this point.
 

SillySapienne

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So far you have typed yourself as an INFP, ENFP, INTP and an ENTP.

This immensely confuzzles me.

Obviously the test isn't working for you.

Have you read the profiles of each of these types?

Which one do you relate to the most?
 

Shadowrose

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That's a good point.
Under stress- I definitely feel the reign of Fe much more than Te. I can use Fe to my advantage- in terms of having a lot of empathy.

People are always so amazed that I know what they are thinking. I'm good at picking up on cues. A lot of times I use it to act a certain way when around others. There are many people who I wouldn't want to show my true self. I don't like being rejected by others.

In my fraternity, we have this "Senior Speak" function where the seniors give the others advice. All the seniors gave me the advice of 'being myself'.

From that standpoint, that would make me a empathic NT.

Yeah, I suspect you're an ENTP. They're the best with Fe out of the XNXP group. From most ENTPs I've spoken with, and myself, we can usually read a social situation in the blink of an eye, Ne and Fe working in happy collusion.

Another way to tell the difference, at least, that helped me the most, is look at your childhood. I had trouble differentiating if I was an INTP or an ENTP, as I spent most of my High School existence hidden away in my room, glued to my monitor. The thing is, back in Elementary School (What I remember of it...), I was hardcore Ne.

Hope that helps a smidgeon.
 

redacted

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you definitely seem like a Ti user to me.

and i doubt you'd be confused by T/F if you were an INTP. so ENTP.

for some reason i've had lots of trouble typing ENTPs as well. my little brother is one, but i also considered INFP, ENFP and INTP.
 

Mondo

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So far you have typed yourself as an INFP, ENFP, INTP and an ENTP.

This immensely confuzzles me.

Obviously the test isn't working for you.

Have you read the profiles of each of these types?

Which one do you relate to the most?

In terms of profiles- I relate most to the ENTP and INFP profiles.
The INTP is too cold and the ENFP is too warm.

The other two seem just right.
I can't relate to the INFP's tendency to discard logic but that could be a poor profile description itself.
I can't relate to the ENTP's 'social assertiveness' but extraverts aren't necessarily social assertive- just energized by the outside world.

I can be assertive when I have to be but there are some people who are much more aggressive and outspoken that I often think there's no point in trying to speak over them- even though the tendency is there.

Shadowrose said:
Another way to tell the difference, at least, that helped me the most, is look at your childhood. I had trouble differentiating if I was an INTP or an ENTP, as I spent most of my High School existence hidden away in my room, glued to my monitor. The thing is, back in Elementary School (What I remember of it...), I was hardcore Ne.

I would definitely say that I was a hardcore Ne as a child.
I thought that I would make more friends by being more 'quiet'- so that was something I worked on during my adolescent years- but I don't think it necessarily made me Introverted.


The reason why I went from NT to NF was that I thought T-types couldn't be empathic but when I saw that wasn't the case- I switched back to NT.
 

Shadowrose

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The other two seem just right.
I can't relate to the INFP's tendency to discard logic but that could be a poor profile description itself.
I can't relate to the ENTP's 'social assertiveness' but extraverts aren't necessarily social assertive- just energized by the outside world.

I can be assertive when I have to be but there are some people who are much more aggressive and outspoken that I often think there's no point in trying to speak over them- even though the tendency is there.



I would definitely say that I was a hardcore Ne as a child.
I thought that I would make more friends by being more 'quiet'- so that was something I worked on during my adolescent years- but I don't think it necessarily made me Introverted.

I've seen tell here, and in other situations and places, that ENTPs are frequently the most intraverted of the Extroverts. I'm not really a terribly chatty or outgoing person in most situations, but if I'm stuck by myself for more than 4 or 5 hours, I die. As far as being a child went, I was extremely sociable, but I generally talked more to authority figures than my peers. I would frequently, through grade school, latch onto adults and pester them for as long as they'd let me.
 

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mrs
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The INTP, I think, would use Ne to understand the external (& his inner) world, but his greatest concentration/investment/orientation is to his inner world, ruled by Ti

The ENTP would use/apply Ti to his perception of the external world, of which an understanding/orientation is of the utmost
 

SillySapienne

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I thought that I would make more friends by being more 'quiet'- so that was something I worked on during my adolescent years- but I don't think it necessarily made me Introverted.
This is an odd statement, one in which I cannot at all relate to.

Perhaps I am totally off the mark, but when I read this, I sense an untruth erected by a defense mechanism of some sort.

Please explain more, if you would.

:)
 

redacted

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You don't strike me as an Ne dom.

remember that Ne has more of a free reign with ENFPs than ENTPs.

also, it seems like you mistakenly think of an Ne dom as like the equivalent of enneagram type 7. you can be careful and reserved as an Ne dom. (just probably not as careful and reserved as IJs :))

This is an odd statement, one in which I cannot at all relate to.

Perhaps I am totally off the mark, but when I read this, I sense an untruth erected by a defense mechanism of some sort.

Please explain more, if you would.

:)

that's how Fe works for a strong Ti user. it's about social strategy.
 
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