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    9s can get angry

    ENFPS in general are gentle as fuck. Believe me I have tried in the past to make enfps yelll and scream and they are seemingly incapable, or completely averse to it.

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    I'm inclined to agree with the others in this thread here, in that I've never seen you actively trying to control everything. You're also not that reactive, and I get this sense that you adapt to everything and the way you deal with people is more diplomatic.

    You don't really sass people out like @Halla74. You mirror @skylights (I know she's 6w7 but it's just my observation) more.

    Edit: To that follow up question in Skype about 9w8 vs 9w1:

    I know of a 9w8 and a 9w1.

    The 9w8 is more territorial and sensory. He doesn't seek confrontation, preferring to use pacifist methods first, but when the push comes to the shove, he's assertive. For the most part, he's languid about mostly everything until his space (i.e. his room, computer, phone, whatever) gets invaded upon, where he gets angry and tells people to back off.

    The 9w1 is more... fantastical. He's not as territorial or sensory, preferring to default to the way he views things. He sees the environment according to his ideals, and because of that, he can be quite judgmental and pick the things out that are not right. If his ideals are violated, he will get angry and he'd tell people off.

    They're both similar in the sense that while most things piss them off, they try not to let it get to them, preferring to "let it slide" because they "don't have the energy for this" and that they want to maintain their inner peace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanaynay View Post
    Hmm, the problem is 7 is a core assertive type too, so is that just me being a 7? You're definitely right about the 2nd line- I'm just not sure how much it applies to having an 8 fix.
    This is the complete opposite of me - I really do not like to be the top dog leading everything and in control of everything. It puts too much negative emotion in me and too much responsibility I don't want. Having people constantly look to me for guidance, while flattering, honestly sounds awful to me. I can offer words of advice sometimes but I don't want to mother anyone around or anything. I'd rather people just do whatever they want and let me do what I want. Getting control just sounds unpleasant to me.
    I'm not sure really, both sound terrible. The only fears I really don't relate to at all are 1, 3 (kind of - I do like to feel valuable), and 5. 9 and 8 are pretty much tied for me. I fear separation from others and my whole environment being estranged, but I also fear being controlled and having decisions made for me. But to be fair, I've also unknowingly had decisions made for me and when I found out I wouldn't really react at all because I wouldn't care that much. Being manipulated sounds much worse to me, because it's like making me betray myself. On the flip side, when my friends are all estranged and people aren't getting along I try to mediate and keep things connected.
    Maybe! I'm surprised you think that of the bold part. People sometimes I can be a pretty dominant person even when I don't think so myself. It's weird how I can surprise myself sometimes. For 8, what wing would you say for me?

    Whoops, sorry C for not responding right away...

    When I wrote down 8...I absolutely knew that no one would agree...that everyone...and I mean everyone...that you called to the thread would be coming on here to cast their vote for 9 (I actually said something to that effect right? haha...I don't rem but I said something I think...)

    Here's what I can say...
    I 100% believe you are an 8. I do not believe an 8 fix is going to manifest itself in a person...especially when that person is an Ne dom x 1000 ENFP 7w6 so/sx heavy 2 fix... in the same way as it would an ENTJ core 8...or hell even an ENFP core 8. By this I mean...having an 8 fix... with your line-up...isn't going to somehow turn you into a Mafia Don. I'm looking at the 8 fear...I'm looking at your level of energy and extrovertion and individualism...and I'm comparing/contrasting all of that with those same aspects at point 9. And when I work through the math of it...the sum of it is... I do not see you as someone that could merge...or blend-in with anything haha. You have a strong identity. You have presence. And you have slight pushiness about you... you love to challenge things...just like you are doing in this thread.


    Do I think I could convince you of this though? No. Am I attached to you seeing things my way? Sometimes I will fight the uphill battle if I feel it is something that would benefit the person to know...but you will be absolutely the same whether you have 8 or 9 listed as your gut fix...and so I think you should go with 9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Whoops, sorry C for not responding right away...

    When I wrote down 8...I absolutely knew that no one would agree...that everyone...and I mean everyone...that you called to the thread would be coming on here to cast their vote for 9 (I actually said something to that effect right? haha...I don't rem but I said something I think...)
    You did, something along those lines. Us poor ENFPs can't be bothered to go back 2 or 3 pages to check though.

    Here's what I can say...
    I 100% believe you are an 8. I do not believe an 8 fix is going to manifest itself in a person...especially when that person is an Ne dom x 1000 ENFP 7w6 so/sx heavy 2 fix... in the same way as it would an ENTJ core 8...or hell even an ENFP core 8. By this I mean...having an 8 fix... with your line-up...isn't going to somehow turn you into a Mafia Don. I'm looking at the 8 fear...I'm looking at your level of energy and extrovertion and individualism...and I'm comparing/contrasting all of that with those same aspects at point 9. And when I work through the math of it...the sum of it is... I do not see you as someone that could merge...or blend-in with anything haha. You have a strong identity. You have presence. And you have slight pushiness about you... you love to challenge things...just like you are doing in this thread.
    All good points, right now I'm still sitting at 8/9 (as indicated by my sig) but this is definitely making me actually start to think of 8 more seriously. I know 7s have strong identity and presence as well, but the pushiness, love of challenge, and lack of merging/blending in with anything are reasonable imo. I'm impressed that you see all this in me, since I always feel like I just give off of the impression that I'm stereotypical E7 being all bubbly happy sunshine haha. Maybe any conflict or challenges I express in public I sort of omit from my mind.

    Do I think I could convince you of this though? No. Am I attached to you seeing things my way? Sometimes I will fight the uphill battle if I feel it is something that would benefit the person to know...but you will be absolutely the same whether you have 8 or 9 listed as your gut fix...and so I think you should go with 9.
    Well, you're being very convincing right now dear.

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    @Starry
    you can't be serious. 7s with an 8 fix are ruthless, acquisitive, rough-around-the-edges and usually competitive. @Chanaynay is gentle as a lamb and a cuddly ball of enthusiasm (just look at all his avatars and signatures. SOOO not 8 fixed )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    @Chanaynay
    Are you withdrawn (When problems arise, do you tend to withdraw into your own head, using logic or emotions?)
    Or assertive (When problems arise, do you address them assertively to get what you want?)
    core 7 is already an assertive type

    Are you reactive (You get very volatile and reactive under stress?)
    Or optimistic (You try to see the silver lining of a situation under stress and keep an optimistic outlook?
    Which of these do you relate more to?
    You have a compulsive need to control situations that you're in.
    When serious problems arise, you tend to withdraw into your head to find inner peace. Conflict wears on you.
    core 7 is already optimistic (though Chan is a triple dose of optimistic. he makes me look 6w5/8w9 sometimes lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    core 7 is already an assertive type


    core 7 is already optimistic (though Chan is a triple dose of optimistic. he makes me look 6w5/8w9 sometimes lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    @Starry
    you can't be serious.
    Oh but I am...

    @Chanaynay

    278, 782, 827 - The Free Spirit: You like to use your charming, sunny disposition to create an upbeat, positive, and action-packed environment. You are also very nurturing to those in your circle of care. Your life mission is to be an instrument of change, transforming difficult situations into moments of inspiration. A true free spirit, you are happiest when you are on the go and helping others to learn to act on their own behalf. Your blind spot is that you can be so focused on keeping everything positive and honest that you can be too aggressive and fail to recognize the importance of difficult emotions. You also keep busy and in motion to avoid painful feelings. Your growing edge is to recognize that your need to always be postivie, upbeat, and free can limit your ability to self reflect and fully be yourself. True happiness and joy come from being present to your higher self and experiencing all of your emotions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Oh but I am...
    @Chanaynay
    I'm not a huge fan of the Fauvres. they would have me typed as 8w7 (like, the posterchild 8w7)
    Edit: in fact, they type almost everyone who is assertive as an 8.
    the important thing is that you have to look at each of the types in the tritype individual as well, and Chanz doesn't have a drop of 8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elfboy View Post
    @Starry
    you can't be serious. 7s with an 8 fix are ruthless, acquisitive, rough-around-the-edges and usually competitive. @Chanaynay is gentle as a lamb and a cuddly ball of enthusiasm (just look at all his avatars and signatures. SOOO not 8 fixed )
    You think I'm cuddly? Aww boo boo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Starry View Post
    Oh but I am...

    @Chanaynay
    Because I love you, I shall bold the parts I relate to.

    278, 782, 827 - The Free Spirit: You like to use your charming, sunny disposition to create an upbeat, positive, and action-packed environment. You are also very nurturing to those in your circle of care. Your life mission is to be an instrument of change, transforming difficult situations into moments of inspiration. A true free spirit, you are happiest when you are on the go and helping others to learn to act on their own behalf. Your blind spot is that you can be so focused on keeping everything positive and honest that you can be too aggressive and fail to recognize the importance of difficult emotions. You also keep busy and in motion to avoid painful feelings. Your growing edge is to recognize that your need to always be postivie, upbeat, and free can limit your ability to self reflect and fully be yourself. True happiness and joy come from being present to your higher self and experiencing all of your emotions.

    @Vetani told me this sounded like my mom (who I believe is 2w3>8w7>6w7) and there were a few parts that actually sounded like her. The part about being too aggressive and failing to recognize difficult emotions especially. But I've never really experienced that problem before. While my mom has a harder time grasping onto people dwelling in their negative emotions and exploring them, I was always the one trying to teach her how to do that because it's what I needed to do and what I do with other people. I think I'm also more self-reflective and more aware of my own negatives than this describes. Perhaps I'm a healthier version of this maybe. But either way, I don't relate to becoming more self-reflective and more "myself" when becoming healthier. Positivity restricting being myself especially - since I view myself as naturally positive so I don't see it as an inhibiting factor other than for reasons which are also applicable to 729s. Most changes I've noticed in me as I've become healthier is that I've learned to stand up for myself a lot more and not fear confrontation. I'm still on the path to growth though, as I need to learn to be more focused (I'm procrastinating right now haha) and other things but that's the progress pretty much so far.
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