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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Yes. Ne-valuing types would perceive the world by everything that is possible (accounting for everything). Ni-valuing types, in contrast, would perceive the world in what is feasible, or probable (zeroing in on the most efficient path). Both Ni and Ne leads would be adept at perceiving the world through both lenses, but they default to their specific one.
    Hmm alright. I do rely quite a lot on perceiving probabilities. It feels so natural. Otoh I don't care to look at possibilities. Trying to brainstorm about them doesn't feel so natural. E.g. When I need to solve a problem, I simply want to find the solution and I couldn't give two shits about generating other possibilities. I either see the solution right away or I don't. In the latter case, yes I will have to figure it out somehow sooner or later but that process certainly doesn't involve looking for irrelevant possibilities.

    It seems to me OP is more leaning towards Ni over Ne with this, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Interesting, I can't discern what attitude of intuition is preferred (Ni or Ne).

    One final attempt:

    Do you see the relationships between objects in the external world, how several objects work together, as a combined unit, and perceive things sort of analogically, predominately,

    or

    Do you see the dynamic possibilities of where an object might have came from, where it might be going, and what the most basic component is of the object?

    Apologies for the somewhat vague questions I have been positing, I can't seem to produce specific examples right now.

    EDIT: Just synthesized a potentially promising question, so if you wouldn't mind, could you answer it?

    Do you perceive the world in terms of probabilities, or possibilities?
    DO you mean if I perceive things in terms of resemblence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    I'm just lucky to get the time of day from an 8w7.
    Anytime, I love your avatar.

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    By the way, "Mal" doesn't mean "bad."
    You mean it doesn't stand for "bad", because that's the actual meaning of the word in Portuguese. Funny you'd point it out

    Quote Originally Posted by animenagai View Post
    Not so much. It's easier for us to grasp your mental processes when we see you answer things on the fly. Ne for example is often quite obvious in the flesh.

    Edit: Oh I guess that depends on what you mean by 'visual identification'. If you're asking me if I'm looking for an Ni glass stare or something (which is what I initially assumed), then no.
    If I did a video there would probably be a lot of silence and babbling between answers because this last ones were pretty hard for me to decide on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinity- View Post
    Hmm alright. I do rely quite a lot on perceiving probabilities. It feels so natural. Otoh I don't care to look at possibilities. Trying to brainstorm about them doesn't feel so natural. E.g. When I need to solve a problem, I simply want to find the solution and I couldn't give two shits about generating other possibilities. I either see the solution right away or I don't. In the latter case, yes I will have to figure it out somehow sooner or later but that process certainly doesn't involve looking for irrelevant possibilities.

    It seems to me OP is more leaning towards Ni over Ne with this, as well.
    Yes, thats' exactly how it is for me, specially the "irrelevant" part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Look Alive_Sunshine View Post
    If I did a video there would probably be a lot of silence and babbling between answers because this last ones were pretty hard for me to decide on.
    Yeah, going with all your responses, I'm sticking with XNTJ. Strong Ne users can smell each other from a mile away. That's just not the vibe I'm picking up from you. Granted, it's just a forum, but even your answer above confirms this for me. We tend to be pretty comfortable on the spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by animenagai View Post
    Yeah, going with all your responses, I'm sticking with XNTJ. Strong Ne users can smell each other from a mile away. That's just not the vibe I'm picking up from you. Granted, it's just a forum, but even your answer above confirms this for me. We tend to be pretty comfortable on the spot.
    That gives me goosebumps. I like the "picking up a vibe" bit, do you trust these things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Look Alive_Sunshine View Post
    That gives me goosebumps. I like the "picking up a vibe" bit, do you trust these things?
    Not completely of course. At the end of the day, the best I can do is to look at the posts you have provided and try to tie those with functions. It's not the perfect method, but then again, there's no such thing. Inference to the best explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Interesting, I can't discern what attitude of intuition is preferred (Ni or Ne).

    One final attempt:

    Do you see the relationships between objects in the external world, how several objects work together, as a combined unit, and perceive things sort of analogically, predominately,

    or

    Do you see the dynamic possibilities of where an object might have came from, where it might be going, and what the most basic component is of the object?

    Apologies for the somewhat vague questions I have been positing, I can't seem to produce specific examples right now.

    EDIT: Just synthesized a potentially promising question, so if you wouldn't mind, could you answer it?

    Do you perceive the world in terms of probabilities, or possibilities?
    I think I got it now:

    1) The second option.

    2) Probabilities.

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    I want to thank @Alea_iacta_est, @yeghor, @infinity-, @Hard and @animenagai for taking their time to try and figure this out.

    Turns out I'm not an 8w7 after all, it's funny in the light of the Enneagram/MBTI correspondence talk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Look Alive_Sunshine View Post
    I want to thank @Alea_iacta_est, @yeghor, @infinity-, @Hard and @animenagai for taking their time to try and figure this out.

    Turns out I'm not an 8w7 after all, it's funny in the light of the Enneagram/MBTI correspondence talk
    I mistyped at 8 for the better part of a year and posted all over the forums. I feel bad for misleading people but obviously it wasnt intentional. Mistyping is part of the journey =)
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