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    Any notion of my Socionics type or enneagram instinctual variant stack?

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    Time for some good ol' self objectivity. Here are the best cognitive function descriptions I can come up with, apply them to your own persona.

    Se: The here and now. Requires physical stimulation and physical states of mind. Se users look around their environment and make decisions based on what is directly in front of them. Se-Ti combinations will draw sensory information, mainly visual, and figure out how what they are seeing makes since to them. This is why xSTP types are generally considered the mechanics of the MBTI world. They look at a machine in front of them (Se), see all of the parts in great detail, and make sense of how it all works in their mind with Ti.

    Si: The here and past. This function is mostly unconscious like introverted intuition, but it is more focused on detail work and prior sensations than Ni is. Si users immediately notice if something is off about what they are experiencing (perceiving), but, unlike Ni users, they compare what they previously experienced to the what they are experiencing now to figure out if they have experienced this before. Si users will be the people that will experience a little bit more Deja Vu than other types. When they see a familiar problem, they immediately and unconsciously know how to tackle it simply because they've done it before (or something like what they've done before).

    Ne: The expansive and future. Ne users are the people that are always connecting the dots. How does this relate to this and what can I do with it? They see possibilities in the environment around them and want to pursue them all at the same time. When extroverted intuition is in the dominant slot, the person is usually constantly connecting things in their mind and constantly active. All intuitives are a bit more conceptual than sensors, but extroverted intuitives are broad in their conceptions, they see all of their ideas with little focus on a specific one.

    Ni: The focused and future. Ni users are the people with plans. Introverted intuition is mostly an unconscious function, so its calculations are usually a bit veiled to the user. Ni users experience visions of what to do next, unlike Ne users. They will be studying a problem and then instantly know how to solve it simply by processing it in their unconscious. Introverted intuition varies from extroverted intuition in that introverted intuition is much less grounded to the outside world and is much more focused than broad. Introverted intuitives will see one or two possibilities compared to the expansive extroverted intuitives, but the one or two possibilities will have incredible depth and focus.

    Ti: Precise and Deep. Introverted thinkers will absorb information via their extroverted perceiving function and then make internal assessments of what is happening in the outside world. How does what is happening right now (Se) or in the future (Ne) make sense to me? Ti users try to make logical sense based on their own thinking style. They want to understand what is happening in the outside world in a subjective mannerism. Ti is also much more in-depth and precise than Te, and will thus be very nitpicky about certain decisions and frameworks it is making/building. Ti is a bit perfectionist in the realm of ideas and understanding.

    Te: Broad and Efficient. Te users absorb statistical information and data from the external environment to be processed by an introverted perceiving function. Te users are more structural and broad than the precise and deep Ti users in the sense that they are making decisions based on the outside world. Whereas the Ti user will make a decision based on how it makes sense to him or her, the Te user will make a decision based on the facts and evidence in the outside world. Ti user's want to understand something according to them. Te users want to understand something according to the outside world. Often, Te users will have a nagging desire to apply their knowledge and visions gained with Ni and Si to the outside environment. These people actively try and change the outside environment in a structural and efficient way. They grow impatient with unnecessary detail work and go with the most efficient plan rather that the perfect plan.

    Fe: Broad and Connecting. Fe users make decisions based on the emotional well-being of others. They are frequently the type that tries to help others emotionally and be kind to others. Fe users can be as logical and efficient as Te users, but will always choose making decisions based on others over a logical decision if it would hurt others. Fe can also be associated with attention-seeking behavior, but that is more stereotypical. Fe users will take in the entire emotional atmosphere of a situation and process it via an introverted perceiving function to figure out what to do next to help others.

    Fi: Deep and Self-oriented. Fi users make decisions to benefit their own emotional well being (and perhaps the few amount of people that they deeply care for). Fi users will take in sensory data via an extroverted perceiving function to find the best way to appeal to themselves (be it through sensations or possible routes). Fi users typically have a very solid moral code, and are extremely precise as to what is wrong and what is right (according to them, of course). They will make decisions based on their strict moral code to create a fair, tolerable environment (for them).

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    How do you reconcile the fact that Jung typed Socrates an S type (as in S-dom)? Undoubtedly, he embodied all criteria you have laid forth for an Ne type, almost a literal caricature of what is passed about for Ne.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superunknown View Post
    @Alea_iacta_est

    How do you reconcile the fact that Jung typed Socrates an S type (as in S-dom)? Undoubtedly, he embodied all criteria you have laid forth for an Ne type, almost a literal caricature of what is passed about for Ne.
    Recall that Jung actually never found his real type either, and went the same route as I did with simply NiTi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Recall that Jung actually never found his real type either, and went the same route as I did with simply NiTi
    Also, considering Socrates never wrote anything really (Plato was his scribe) who knows where Socrates starts and Plato ends?

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