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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyedecker View Post
    At his point in my life, I'm using Fe more than I ever have in the past. I've always felt a certain disconnect from people. Honestly, they're kind of a nuisance to me, unless they have something really interesting to talk about or they're in my immediate family (even family often feels like a nuisance). I care about people and society and have some level of empathy for people, particularly for the downtrodden and disenfranchised, but that caring comes and goes. I tend to get more passionate and excited about political and social issues during election years, because the parade of lunacy that is the American political system is very fun to watch during campaigns. Other times in my life I find myself caring very little about current events unless they are directly pertinent to one of my interests.

    Generally, if someone comes up and speaks to me at work or in public, my first thoughts are usually why are you talking to me. you're interrupting my thoughts. do you have something important to say? no? then why are you wasting my time talking about what the weather will be like tomorrow or whatever sensationalist bullshit is currently occupying your interest on Fox News or MSNBC? If someone is genuinely suffering or in need of morale, then I am a bit more patient and may even be happy to take a few minutes to offer advice or help them in whatever way possible. Usually my advice to people is very straightforward and can occasionally come off as cold and detached. "You're having a problem with _______? Then perhaps you should consider doing ________." I've been told I often appear aloof and detached, so when I do occasionally show compassion or help people, it surprises them, maybe even catches them off guard.
    This also sounds a lot like being on the 5/4 spectrum, or being a INXX, as well as sp/sx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    Pretty good... thank you so which one do you identify with?
    Dawkins. I always found Hitchens to be too confrontational, too vitriolic. Hearing him speak and reading his writings, it almost seems he has a personal vendetta against religious fundamentalists.

    Quote Originally Posted by brainheart View Post
    This also sounds a lot like being on the 5/4 spectrum, or being a INXX, as well as sp/sx.
    My tritype is 5w4-4w5-9w1 sp/sx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyedecker View Post
    My tritype is 5w4-4w5-9w1 sp/sx
    You told me you weren't that familiar with enneagram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nights and Days View Post
    You told me you weren't that familiar with enneagram.
    I took this test. The descriptions of those three types very closely fit with me, as opposed to other types I read about. I've also read that people with 549, in any configuration or order, can be the most notoriously shy or withdrawn.

    Beyond what little I've read, I think that my knowledge is scanty at best.

    I've been steeping my brain so much in MBTI, Jung, and Socionics that I wanted to wait before taking on another system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyedecker View Post
    I took this test. The descriptions of those three types very closely fit with me, as opposed to other types I read about. I've also read that people with 549, in any configuration or order, can be the most notoriously shy or withdrawn.

    Beyond what little I've read, I think that my knowledge is scanty at best.

    I've been steeping my brain so much in MBTI, Jung, and Socionics that I wanted to wait before taking on another system.
    two of my favorite enneagram resources in case you're interested:

    http://www.enneagramdimensions.net/a...hapter_one.pdf

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...and-Archetypes
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    I'm deviating a bit from the main task, but more on Dawkins (and Einstein!)

    Richard Dawkins on Buddhism



    Einstein's Quotes on Buddhism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyedecker View Post
    Gracias
    You hem me in -- behind and before;
    you have laid your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyedecker View Post
    Dawkins. I always found Hitchens to be too confrontational, too vitriolic. Hearing him speak and reading his writings, it almost seems he has a personal vendetta against religious fundamentalists.
    Ah, interesting you decide based upon this criteria.

    I find it's funny if someone's got that confrontational etc style. But in terms of convincing me about such theoretical topics, Dawkins' style is much much better. Why mix in personal crap? And why judge stuff in this personal way also, e.g. "evil", etc

    I guess you do sound Ti/Fe, though.

    (ps. I've only read from Dawkins, not from Hitchens, I'm basing this opinion of his writings only on the list you posted)

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    Ah, interesting you decide based upon this criteria.

    I find it's funny if someone's got that confrontational etc style. But in terms of convincing me about such theoretical topics, Dawkins' style is much much better. Why mix in personal crap? And why judge stuff in this personal way also, e.g. "evil", etc

    I guess you do sound Ti/Fe, though.

    (ps. I've only read from Dawkins, not from Hitchens, I'm basing this opinion of his writings only on the list you posted)
    Dawkins can also be pretty confrontational. That chart plays it down a little. He's just not at the same level as Hitchens.
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