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    5-4-8's typically describe themselves (when in a safe environment if 8 leads first) as sensitive yet tough.

    If you hadn't seen the description of the the 5-4-8, here it is:



    Use the description objectively, otherwise you'll submit to the Forer Effect. Compare what you are reading to your own psyche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    5-4-8's typically describe themselves (when in a safe environment if 8 leads first) as sensitive yet tough.
    Are you reading my mind? :/ :/ :P

    Though I can't imagine in what non-anonymous environment would I feel like saying this out loud. Never in my life.


    If you hadn't seen the description of the the 5-4-8, here it is:
    Well I relate to some and don't relate to some. I started colouring shit but I decided it's better to just sum it up:

    - I'm indeed somewhat introverted, headstrong, strongly opinionated (enjoying this), like intensity, like being direct. Somewhat cynical. Very confident. Mastery sure. Secret self-consciousness & from time to time artsy yep. I do follow my own "muse" inside. I can push people away but often not intentionally, though that happened too. Analytical to an extent depending on mood. Yes I can seem quiet and then surprise people. I'm my own authority. The sensitivity to inconsistency works too.
    - I'm not dark like this, I'm not totally negative though I can easily be that too. I don't care too deeply about the grotesque & heavily esoteric stuff just makes me feel "eww". I don't research all the time and wouldn't want to spend all my time on that. No constant self-criticism, I don't really do much of it. Not so much of rapid oscillations of emotion, just when I get moody but not my default.

    I would like to copy these lines because they're so good:

    five with an eight fix: least intellectual, though perhaps the most mentally intense. unsettled by occasional fits of temper, sudden outbursts. affixed to notions of power; attitude of resigned realist. quietly guarded and insistent, may put others ill at ease.

    eight with a four fix: the moody, loner eight. distinct outsider quality; as if on a highly personal mission. tendency to feel exempt from conventional rules and circumstances.


    I would only add, that "resigned" isn't me. And my tempers don't "unsettle me", I'm fine with it. I did not understand what "affixed to notions of power" means, so I didn't evaluate that statement. Eh and not always quiet... the 8 with 4 fix line seems to make some more sense to me I guess

    5-4-8's can be willfully perverse and too arrogant to accept criticism from others. But they are likely to outwardly repudiate that criticism, and then later modify their views accordingly rather than stubbornly retain their original position
    Hahaha goddamnit that's me.


    Overall, I'm not this deeply introverted and fantasy oriented as it describes 4-5-8 tritype, only to an extent. Would that be true when 8 is leading the tritype? Or is it a 7 fix and then my 5-ness is just a line from 8?


    Also did you see my other questions? Thanks. Post #129 and #130.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    Are you reading my mind? :/ :/ :P

    Though I can't imagine in what non-anonymous environment would I feel like saying this out loud. Never in my life.




    Well I relate to some and don't relate to some. I started colouring shit but I decided it's better to just sum it up:

    - I'm indeed somewhat introverted, headstrong, strongly opinionated (enjoying this), like intensity, like being direct. Somewhat cynical. Very confident. Mastery sure. Secret self-consciousness & from time to time artsy yep. I do follow my own "muse" inside. I can push people away but often not intentionally, though that happened too. Analytical to an extent depending on mood. Yes I can seem quiet and then surprise people. I'm my own authority. The sensitivity to inconsistency works too.
    - I'm not dark like this, I'm not totally negative though I can easily be that too. I don't care too deeply about the grotesque & heavily esoteric stuff just makes me feel "eww". I don't research all the time and wouldn't want to spend all my time on that. No constant self-criticism, I don't really do much of it. Not so much of rapid oscillations of emotion, just when I get moody but not my default.

    I would like to copy these lines because they're so good:

    five with an eight fix: least intellectual, though perhaps the most mentally intense. unsettled by occasional fits of temper, sudden outbursts. affixed to notions of power; attitude of resigned realist. quietly guarded and insistent, may put others ill at ease.

    eight with a four fix: the moody, loner eight. distinct outsider quality; as if on a highly personal mission. tendency to feel exempt from conventional rules and circumstances.


    I would only add, that "resigned" isn't me. And my tempers don't "unsettle me", I'm fine with it. I did not understand what "affixed to notions of power" means, so I didn't evaluate that statement. Eh and not always quiet... the 8 with 4 fix line seems to make some more sense to me I guess



    Hahaha goddamnit that's me.


    Overall, I'm not this deeply introverted and fantasy oriented as it describes 4-5-8 tritype, only to an extent. Would that be true when 8 is leading the tritype? Or is it a 7 fix and then my 5-ness is just a line from 8?


    Also did you see my other questions? Thanks. Post #129 and #130.
    The pushing people away is a tendency of the 8 w/ 5 fix, as the 8 doesn't want to reveal inner emotions and the 5 wants to not be intruded upon. I imagine what they meant is 458 pushes when people try to get close to him or her that he or she doesn't trust entirely. The introversion will be slightly less hermetic when 8 is in charge but it is still an introverted trifix.

    How about the 4-7-8 description?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    The pushing people away is a tendency of the 8 w/ 5 fix, as the 8 doesn't want to reveal inner emotions and the 5 wants to not be intruded upon. I imagine what they meant is 458 pushes when people try to get close to him or her that he or she doesn't trust entirely. The introversion will be slightly less hermetic when 8 is in charge but it is still an introverted trifix.
    I see. Yes I relate to all that, except I'm not sure what being intruded upon is supposed to mean. Maybe that's something I don't have then?


    How about the 4-7-8 description?
    ok well this one has too much optimism and blahblahblah creativity stuff in it. I mean I'm optimistic in a sense just not overdone and I do have some aesthetic sense and am individual but I'm not out doing "creative stuff" constantly. I guess otherwise some things fit here too. I do like attention and autonomy, I don't care about mirroring. Freedom is a given. Non-comformity too :P I see the "own muse" theme appears here too, cool. Also I've been seen as inspirational, yes I can come across as "arrogant, resistant, and/or uncooperative". And yes, I can be as adamant about getting my way as mentioned grandmother :o I get inflexible like described.

    I suppose if I am this tritype then I would be more 874 though than 847, I still feel 4 is my last fix.


    I am still curious about the previous questions Post #129 and #130.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    I see. Yes I relate to all that, except I'm not sure what being intruded upon is supposed to mean. Maybe that's something I don't have then?




    ok well this one has too much optimism and blahblahblah creativity stuff in it. I mean I'm optimistic in a sense just not overdone and I do have some aesthetic sense and am individual but I'm not out doing "creative stuff" constantly. I guess otherwise some things fit here too. I do like attention and autonomy, I don't care about mirroring. Freedom is a given. Non-comformity too :P I see the "own muse" theme appears here too, cool. Also I've been seen as inspirational, yes I can come across as "arrogant, resistant, and/or uncooperative". And yes, I can be as adamant about getting my way as mentioned grandmother :o I get inflexible like described.

    I suppose if I am this tritype then I would be more 874 though than 847, I still feel 4 is my last fix.


    I am still curious about the previous questions Post #129 and #130.
    The cp 6 bit was for the denial of fears, but I'm wasn't entirely sure because you didn't mention whether or not you are denying your fears to others or denying your fears internally.

    The passage you wrote sounds sort of like a 7 with 8 fix, but there are hints to 5 with an 8 fix that might signal a disintegration from your 8 fix to a 5 fix. I'm not entirely sure on this however.

    Brutal criticism is the result of a stressed out 7, which means that the 7 will actually say whatever he or she is thinking despite knowing that the comments will hurt someone. It usually protrudes with a harsh truth, one that has usually been known by all yet remained unspoken. The 7 capitalizes on the criticism and usually piles it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    The cp 6 bit was for the denial of fears, but I'm wasn't entirely sure because you didn't mention whether or not you are denying your fears to others or denying your fears internally.
    Both. My default stance is I don't think about danger or fears, if others mention stuff, their worries etc etc, I brush it off, and I sometimes even tell them off pretty impatiently if they keep worrying. Which one's cp 6, internal denial of fears or denial of them to others?


    The passage you wrote sounds sort of like a 7 with 8 fix, but there are hints to 5 with an 8 fix that might signal a disintegration from your 8 fix to a 5 fix. I'm not entirely sure on this however.
    Was the "freedom is a given" part the 7-ish one? :P

    Right I wouldn't deny a 8 to 5 disintegration.


    Brutal criticism is the result of a stressed out 7, which means that the 7 will actually say whatever he or she is thinking despite knowing that the comments will hurt someone. It usually protrudes with a harsh truth, one that has usually been known by all yet remained unspoken. The 7 capitalizes on the criticism and usually piles it on.
    Doesn't a 7 usually say what they think? :O

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    Doesn't a 7 usually say what they think? :O
    Yes, it's just that when they are unhealthy, stressed, or disintegrating they tend to come up with even more criticisms that might be undeserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    Doesn't a 7 usually say what they think? :O
    Yes, it's just that when they are unhealthy, stressed, or disintegrating they tend to come up with even more criticisms that might be undeserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Yes, it's just that when they are unhealthy, stressed, or disintegrating they tend to come up with even more criticisms that might be undeserved.
    I see. I will have to think about that one.

    And about the denial of fears, which one's cp 6, internal denial of fears or denial of them to others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    I see. I will have to think about that one.

    And about the denial of fears, which one's cp 6, internal denial of fears or denial of them to others?
    Counterphobic 6's deny their fear internally so that they can conquer their fears. 8's deny their fears externally so they don't look weak.

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