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    Default Enneagram n00b needing help in distinguishing type/tritype!

    Hello!

    I'm new to this forum and am just getting into Enneagram.

    I need help figuring out my type and tritype as I'm finding Enneagram quite a difficult model to type myself on as I see different attributes of different types in myself.

    I tested as a 7 with an online test before but I thought the description seemed a little shallow and very focused on one aspect of my personality. I also felt the questions weren't fantastic and sometimes forced answers that didn't feel right to give by using mandatory multiple choice.

    Is there any way I can reliably type myself?

    I can answer any questions about myself to help you guys to type me if you're willing! Also if it helps I *think* I'm an ENFP.

    Thanks

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    ENFPs are typically 7s, but typically doesn't cut it. I tried this with someone else, so let's see if this works out again

    Which of these do you consider your biggest fear?
    Being cut off (from everything)
    Being held back from doing something, no freedom
    Being betrayed by those you trust
    Being emotionally vulnerable (or physically)
    Being insignificant and ordinary
    Being incapable, mentally or physically
    Being unimportant, being worthless
    Being unloved
    Being amoral, lacking good judgement

    Which of these do you want the most?
    To be valuable and important
    To feel loved
    To be unique and individual
    To be ethical and have integrity
    To be supported and guided
    To be in a peaceful frame of mind and life
    To be protected
    To be competent and capable
    To be content and happy with what you have

    If this doesn't solve it, I'll do some more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    ENFPs are typically 7s, but typically doesn't cut it. I tried this with someone else, so let's see if this works out again

    Which of these do you consider your biggest fear?
    Being cut off (from everything)
    Being held back from doing something, no freedom
    Being betrayed by those you trust
    Being emotionally vulnerable (or physically)
    Being insignificant and ordinary
    Being incapable, mentally or physically
    Being unimportant, being worthless
    Being unloved
    Being amoral, lacking good judgement

    Which of these do you want the most?
    To be valuable and important
    To feel loved
    To be unique and individual
    To be ethical and have integrity
    To be supported and guided
    To be in a peaceful frame of mind and life
    To be protected
    To be competent and capable
    To be content and happy with what you have

    If this doesn't solve it, I'll do some more.

    Thanks! I've highlighted a few, let me know if you need me to just pick one...

    Which of these do you consider your biggest fear?
    Being cut off (from everything)
    Being held back from doing something, no freedom
    Being betrayed by those you trust
    Being emotionally vulnerable (or physically)
    Being insignificant and ordinary
    Being incapable, mentally or physically
    Being unimportant, being worthless
    Being unloved
    Being amoral, lacking good judgement

    Which of these do you want the most?
    To be valuable and important
    To feel loved
    To be unique and individual
    To be ethical and have integrity
    To be supported and guided
    To be in a peaceful frame of mind and life
    To be protected
    To be competent and capable
    To be content and happy with what you have

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    Well I actually meant for you to only choose one per question, do you identify with those 3 fears and desires equally?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Well I actually meant for you to only choose one per question, do you identify with those 3 fears and desires equally?
    Hey, I'd say I agree strongly with all 3 I've picked from each list but if I had to pick one from each...

    Which of these do you consider your biggest fear?
    Being cut off (from everything)
    Being held back from doing something, no freedom
    Being betrayed by those you trust
    Being emotionally vulnerable (or physically)
    Being insignificant and ordinary
    Being incapable, mentally or physically
    Being unimportant, being worthless
    Being unloved
    Being amoral, lacking good judgement

    Which of these do you want the most?
    To be valuable and important
    To feel loved
    To be unique and individual
    To be ethical and have integrity
    To be supported and guided
    To be in a peaceful frame of mind and life
    To be protected
    To be competent and capable
    To be content and happy with what you have

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    @alphashallows

    Well for the fear, you chose the Type 9 fear of being cut off and seperated, and for the desire you chose the Type 7 desire.

    If we go and look back at the three you chose for each however, you chose, for fear, Type 9, Type 7, and Type 6
    For desire, you chose Type 2, Type 9, and Type 7.

    I say 7w6 with a 9 fix, so when you go to figure out your tritype, I would expect it to be something like

    7w6 - 9w? - and maybe a 2w?,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    @alphashallows

    Well for the fear, you chose the Type 9 fear of being cut off and seperated, and for the desire you chose the Type 7 desire.

    If we go and look back at the three you chose for each however, you chose, for fear, Type 9, Type 7, and Type 6
    For desire, you chose Type 2, Type 9, and Type 7.

    I say 7w6 with a 9 fix, so when you go to figure out your tritype, I would expect it to be something like

    7w6 - 9w? - and maybe a 2w?,
    Having read a bit more into enneagram I definitely think 9w8 is in there somewhere as opposed to 9w1 - I can be assertive in my pursuit of a peaceful life.

    I'm intrigued to see that none of my choices are type 4 choices - 4w3 has definitely appeared in my tritype on online tests before, and I think 3w4 and 3w2 also aaaages ago.

    I've never seen a 2 in there but again I'm not sure how much I trust those online tests, I quite like your method. If there is a 2 it'd be a 2w3 and not a 2w1.

    What makes you say 7w6 rather than 7w8?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphashallows View Post
    Having read a bit more into enneagram I definitely think 9w8 is in there somewhere as opposed to 9w1 - I can be assertive in my pursuit of a peaceful life.

    I'm intrigued to see that none of my choices are type 4 choices - 4w3 has definitely appeared in my tritype on online tests before, and I think 3w4 and 3w2 also aaaages ago.

    I've never seen a 2 in there but again I'm not sure how much I trust those online tests, I quite like your method. If there is a 2 it'd be a 2w3 and not a 2w1.

    What makes you say 7w6 rather than 7w8?

    Thanks!
    I say 7w6 because you didn't identify with either the 8 fear or desire.

    The 8's fear (speaking for type 8 here, it's in my trifix) is emotional and physical vulnerability, hence why they act extremely tough and resilient, and that's why in the unhealthy ranges they become extremely hostile, to show off their strength and demonstrate they have no weaknesses, for they have buried them down as far as they can.

    The 8's desire is to be protected by someone else for a change, they are tired for having to stand up for themselves and be aggressive (healthy integration to type 2, which wants to feel loved)

    If you identify with E8, you might have a counterphobic 6 wing, one that denies fear and charges ahead anyways. The 6 is evident because you are afraid of being betrayed by those you trust (unlike the 8, who already trusts no one and lives by this rule, more often than not they will be the ones to betray people along with 3s).

    Out of curiosity, when you picked the want to be loved option, does love in this sense mean appreciation for you and your actions, emotional and physical support/guidance, or popularity and many people liking you even?

    Oh yeah, forgot, Type 4s fear being insignificant and normal, they see themselves as unique and special and desire to be so, which is also similar to Type 3's fear of being valueless and worthless compared to the 3 desire to be important and admired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    I say 7w6 because you didn't identify with either the 8 fear or desire.

    The 8's fear (speaking for type 8 here, it's in my trifix) is emotional and physical vulnerability, hence why they act extremely tough and resilient, and that's why in the unhealthy ranges they become extremely hostile, to show off their strength and demonstrate they have no weaknesses, for they have buried them down as far as they can.

    The 8's desire is to be protected by someone else for a change, they are tired for having to stand up for themselves and be aggressive (healthy integration to type 2, which wants to feel loved)

    If you identify with E8, you might have a counterphobic 6 wing, one that denies fear and charges ahead anyways. The 6 is evident because you are afraid of being betrayed by those you trust (unlike the 8, who already trusts no one and lives by this rule, more often than not they will be the ones to betray people along with 3s).

    Out of curiosity, when you picked the want to be loved option, does love in this sense mean appreciation for you and your actions, emotional and physical support/guidance, or popularity and many people liking you even?

    Oh yeah, forgot, Type 4s fear being insignificant and normal, they see themselves as unique and special and desire to be so, which is also similar to Type 3's fear of being valueless and worthless compared to the 3 desire to be important and admired.
    I definitely identify with the 4's insignificance fear, just not as much as the original three I picked, and I quite like being seen as quirky and witty. I would HATE to be seen as bland or uninteresting so I guess the unique thing stands too. I don't think the 3 type's desires and fears fit me as much - I'm not especially status oriented. I'd say the being loved thing is a combo of being popular and liked at this early stage in my life (I'm in my early 20s), but later on I see it as becoming more of a relationship/family love. Being loved is really important to me as I like having people to share experiences with, and support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphashallows View Post
    I definitely identify with the 4's insignificance fear, just not as much as the original three I picked, and I quite like being seen as quirky and witty. I would HATE to be seen as bland or uninteresting so I guess the unique thing stands too. I don't think the 3 type's desires and fears fit me as much - I'm not especially status oriented. I'd say the being loved thing is a combo of being popular and liked at this early stage in my life (I'm in my early 20s), but later on I see it as becoming more of a relationship/family love. Being loved is really important to me as I like having people to share experiences with, and support.
    To feel loved:
    To have everyone like you and be popular - Type 3
    To be appreciated for the things you do for others - Type 2
    To have emotional/physical support and guidance - Type 6

    I say with a little more confidence now 7w6 - 9w8 - 3w2

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