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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    Oh that one... I got unknown type on it once. I liked it (I scored the same for two highest functions)

    I'm curious if OP tried it...?
    Which were it? I got Ne>Fi which was quite interesting because then, I thought I was an ENTP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephano View Post
    Which were it? I got Ne>Fi which was quite interesting because then, I thought I was an ENTP.
    Well that's interesting :O Did you decide you were ENFP after that?

    For me: Ti = Se

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    Well that's interesting :O Did you decide you were ENFP after that?

    For me: Ti = Se
    Yes, I started to identify with all the ENFP descriptions on the internet. Now I would only consider INFP after ENFP as my possibly real type.
    Ti=Se means xSTP, does these types seem right to you? Also, 8s and 7s are are often extroverted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephano View Post
    Yes, I started to identify with all the ENFP descriptions on the internet. Now I would only consider INFP after ENFP as my possibly real type.
    Ti=Se means xSTP, does these types seem right to you? Also, 8s and 7s are are often extroverted.
    I'd be quite interested to hear more about how you switched from thinking you're a T (Ti) type, to F (Fi). Maybe relevant for OP too.

    As for my type, good question; the issue of extraversion is even a better question; but this is quite off topic in this thread, please see my type thread for more I put my enneagram in my profile because I'm more sure about that and also because the enneagram influence should also be considered when trying to determine MBTI type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantus Firmus View Post
    Years ago I tested as an INTP, but now I consistently test INFP. At first I didn't want to agree with it, because I value logic and T sounds so much more logical.
    In Jung's conception, F is as logical as T. If we are talking about formal logic, Ti users (whether T or F) have the edge over Te users. Which is to say, an INFP may well be be more logical than an INTJ, and, in my experience, often are.
    Quote Originally Posted by tsumatachi_san View Post
    I think the link to the test disappeared. Also, I think Fe vs Fi is usually quite difficult to tell apart overall, hence my problem.
    They are not remotely difficult to tell apart. It's entirely possible that your T/F pref. isn't strongly established. In which case you are neither INTP nor INFP. The fact that you don't seem to understand Fi would rule out INFP, to me, but perhaps you just haven't had enough exposure to the concepts. You're female, yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    Well you yourself said so heh. You talked about having a problem with socialising. Though, maybe I was analysing the stereotype way there :/

    Why don't you like to admit it that you care about people?

    Why is keeping a level head important?
    Haha, I said I thought it was, I'm not sure. I think inferior Fe and Te can look kind of similar as they're both about lack of control over the external world.

    I don't like things being unbalanced, so I prefer to only show I care about people if they show they care about me (immature, I know).

    I feel the need to keep a level head so there's no disruption. I don't like scenes because they draw attention to me or people I'm with which makes me uncomfortable.

    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    I'd be quite interested to hear more about how you switched from thinking you're a T (Ti) type, to F (Fi). Maybe relevant for OP too.

    As for my type, good question; the issue of extraversion is even a better question; but this is quite off topic in this thread, please see my type thread for more I put my enneagram in my profile because I'm more sure about that and also because the enneagram influence should also be considered when trying to determine MBTI type.
    I would also like to hear about it.

    Your topic was quite helpful, but I still relate to both Fi and Ti in there. If it helps, I'm enneagram type 9w1, which may affect results.

    For the cognitive functions test, I got type unclear with 65% for both Ti and Fi and 60% for Fe and Te....

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    Well you yourself said so heh. You talked about having a problem with socialising. Though, maybe I was analysing the stereotype way there :/

    Why don't you like to admit it that you care about people?

    Why is keeping a level head important?
    Haha, I said I thought it was, I'm not sure. I think inferior Fe and Te can look kind of similar as they're both about lack of control over the external world.

    I don't like things being unbalanced, so I prefer to only show I care about people if they show they care about me (immature, I know).

    I feel the need to keep a level head so there's no disruption. I don't like scenes because they draw attention to me or people I'm with which makes me uncomfortable.

    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    I'd be quite interested to hear more about how you switched from thinking you're a T (Ti) type, to F (Fi). Maybe relevant for OP too.

    As for my type, good question; the issue of extraversion is even a better question; but this is quite off topic in this thread, please see my type thread for more I put my enneagram in my profile because I'm more sure about that and also because the enneagram influence should also be considered when trying to determine MBTI type.
    I would also like to hear about it.

    Your topic was quite helpful, but I still relate to both Fi and Ti in there. If it helps, I'm enneagram type 9w1, which may affect results.

    For the cognitive functions test, I got type unclear with 65% for both Ti and Fi and 60% for Fe and Te....

    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    In Jung's conception, F is as logical as T. If we are talking about formal logic, Ti users (whether T or F) have the edge over Te users. Which is to say, an INFP may well be be more logical than an INTJ, and, in my experience, often are.

    They are not remotely difficult to tell apart. It's entirely possible that your T/F pref. isn't strongly established. In which case you are neither INTP nor INFP. The fact that you don't seem to understand Fi would rule out INFP, to me, but perhaps you just haven't had enough exposure to the concepts. You're female, yes?
    I've heard that Fe and Te are the objective fuctions while Fi and Ti are subjective, however how do you tell if you're being objective with either logic or values?

    I think Fe and Fi can look very similar in action, but would function differently as an internal process. The problem is, if the descriptions are generally based on what it looks like, it can be hard to discern which is being used due to a lack of clarity in descriptions about the internal process. I am female.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valaki View Post
    I'd be quite interested to hear more about how you switched from thinking you're a T (Ti) type, to F (Fi). Maybe relevant for OP too.
    Well, I hadn't based typing myself on functions before I have taken the cf test. I suddenly knew it when I saw the result, like: This is it! I have Fi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsumatachi_san View Post
    Haha, I said I thought it was, I'm not sure. I think inferior Fe and Te can look kind of similar as they're both about lack of control over the external world.
    Not really, no. Inferior functions are those which are mostly outside the realm of our conscious control.

    I've heard that Fe and Te are the objective fuctions while Fi and Ti are subjective, however how do you tell if you're being objective with either logic or values?

    I think Fe and Fi can look very similar in action, but would function differently as an internal process. The problem is, if the descriptions are generally based on what it looks like, it can be hard to discern which is being used due to a lack of clarity in descriptions about the internal process. I am female.
    Introverted ("subjective" in the Jungian sense) judging functions are preoccupied with a personal evaluation/assessment of "fitness". Extroverted judging functions take cues / make judgements about fitness according to external ("objective") criteria and standards. To the Je user, established hierarchies, standards and authorities have independent validity. For the Ji user, no such validity is presupposed. Everything must be established from either first principles (Ti) or personal values (Fi).

    Fi often manifests in opposition to those external standards. Think of the classic archetypal INFP, Joan of Arc, who violated both the laws of the land and the conventions of age/gender compelled by her inner values / voices. Her spirituality was an important force in her life, and it was a very personal spirituality, which ultimately saw her burnt at the stake by the upholders of those conventions.

    INTPs are not interested in spirituality and mysticism, as a rule, rather, we are preoccupied with uncovering truth by purely rational means. We are not immersed in the world of feeling (or healing), as INFPs are, but rather, see ourselves principally as detached observers. Fi is ALL about feeling tones. Ti has no feeling tones, as such. Instead there is a kind of aestheticism of ideas. It is interested in structure and with stripping away superfluities - hence the refinement of models, theories, equations etc.

    Ultimately, the INFP is on a quest towards ever-increasing subjectivity - that is to say, a striving towards authenticity, integrity and towards becoming who they feel themselves to be in the fullest sense. The realm is entirely personal and focused on the individual.
    By contrast, the INTP is on a quest towards ever-increasing (subjectively evaluated) objectivity, that is to say, to efface the personal and the self entirely in the pursuit of an impersonal understanding of universal structure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    In Jung's conception, F is as logical as T. If we are talking about formal logic, Ti users (whether T or F) have the edge over Te users. Which is to say, an INFP may well be be more logical than an INTJ, and, in my experience, often are.
    You meant INTP instead of INFP right?


    Quote Originally Posted by tsumatachi_san View Post
    Haha, I said I thought it was, I'm not sure. I think inferior Fe and Te can look kind of similar as they're both about lack of control over the external world.

    I don't like things being unbalanced, so I prefer to only show I care about people if they show they care about me (immature, I know).

    I feel the need to keep a level head so there's no disruption. I don't like scenes because they draw attention to me or people I'm with which makes me uncomfortable.
    I'm not sure if these are not more enneagram related than MBTI related.


    Your topic was quite helpful, but I still relate to both Fi and Ti in there. If it helps, I'm enneagram type 9w1, which may affect results.

    For the cognitive functions test, I got type unclear with 65% for both Ti and Fi and 60% for Fe and Te....
    Fun Were the other (S/N) functions much lower?


    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    INTPs are not interested in spirituality and mysticism, as a rule, rather, we are preoccupied with uncovering truth by purely rational means. We are not immersed in the world of feeling (or healing), as INFPs are, but rather, see ourselves principally as detached observers. Fi is ALL about feeling tones. Ti has no feeling tones, as such. Instead there is a kind of aestheticism of ideas. It is interested in structure and with stripping away superfluities - hence the refinement of models, theories, equations etc.
    Mind explaining more about these Fi-like "feeling tones"? I understand "aestheticism of ideas"


    By contrast, the INTP is on a quest towards ever-increasing (subjectively evaluated) objectivity, that is to say, to efface the personal and the self entirely in the pursuit of an impersonal understanding of universal structure.
    Nice description, that was me in an earlier period of my life. But I don't want to become entirely like this and I don't do this all day. Before you ask why I wouldn't want to be like this, it's because I also like to feel more "alive" than this.

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