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[Mal12345]

The whole theory has little to do with personality anyway, rather psychological perception styles. Any type, in theory, can have any kind of outward personality, but they will still see the world in different ways.

There are different lenses.

Here are personality traits: "natural nurturer; patient, devoted and protective." Is that Alea? I doubt it.

 

[Anna Jorovic]

Here's what I identify with in this passage

INFJs are gentle, caring, complex and highly intuitive individuals. Artistic and creative, they live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities. Only one percent of the population has an INFJ Personality Type, making it the most rare of all the types.

INFJs place great importance on havings things orderly and systematic in their outer world. They put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities in their lives. On the other hand, INFJs operate within themselves on an intuitive basis which is entirely spontaneous. They know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. They are usually right, and they usually know it. Consequently, INFJs put a tremendous amount of faith into their instincts and intuitions. This is something of a conflict between the inner and outer worlds, and may result in the INFJ not being as organized as other Judging types tend to be. Or we may see some signs of disarray in an otherwise orderly tendency, such as a consistently messy desk.

INFJs have uncanny insight into people and situations. They get "feelings" about things and intuitively understand them. As an extreme example, some INFJs report experiences of a psychic nature, such as getting strong feelings about there being a problem with a loved one, and discovering later that they were in a car accident. This is the sort of thing that other types may scorn and scoff at, and the INFJ themself does not really understand their intuition at a level which can be verbalized. Consequently, most INFJs are protective of their inner selves, sharing only what they choose to share when they choose to share it. They are deep, complex individuals, who are quite private and typically difficult to understand. INFJs hold back part of themselves, and can be secretive.

But the INFJ is as genuinely warm as they are complex. INFJs hold a special place in the heart of people who they are close to, who are able to see their special gifts and depth of caring. INFJs are concerned for people's feelings, and try to be gentle to avoid hurting anyone. They are very sensitive to conflict, and cannot tolerate it very well. Situations which are charged with conflict may drive the normally peaceful INFJ into a state of agitation or charged anger. They may tend to internalize conflict into their bodies, and experience health problems when under a lot of stress.

Because the INFJ has such strong intuitive capabilities, they trust their own instincts above all else. This may result in an INFJ stubborness and tendency to ignore other people's opinions. They believe that they're right. On the other hand, INFJ is a perfectionist who doubts that they are living up to their full potential (meh somewhat). INFJs are rarely at complete peace with themselves - there's always something else they should be doing to improve themselves and the world around them. They believe in constant growth, and don't often take time to revel in their accomplishments. They have strong value systems, and need to live their lives in accordance with what they feel is right. In deference to the Feeling aspect of their personalities, INFJs are in some ways gentle and easy going. Conversely, they have very high expectations of themselves, and frequently of their families. They don't believe in compromising their ideals.

INFJ is a natural nurturer; patient, devoted and protective. They make loving parents and usually have strong bonds with their offspring. They have high expectations of their children, and push them to be the best that they can be. This can sometimes manifest itself in the INFJ being hard-nosed and stubborn. But generally, children of an INFJ get devoted and sincere parental guidance, combined with deep caring. N/A

In the workplace, the INFJ usually shows up in areas where they can be creative and somewhat independent. They have a natural affinity for art, and many excel in the sciences, where they make use of their intuition. (If all goes well) INFJs can also be found in service-oriented professions. They are not good at dealing with minutia or very detailed tasks. The INFJ will either avoid such things, or else go to the other extreme and become enveloped in the details to the extent that they can no longer see the big picture. An INFJ who has gone the route of becoming meticulous about details may be highly critical of other individuals who are not.

The INFJ individual is gifted in ways that other types are not. Life is not necessarily easy for the INFJ, but they are capable of great depth of feeling and personal achievement.

Interesting. I wonder if you relate to the INTJ profile in the same way?

 

[Alea_iacta_est]

There are different lenses.

Here are personality traits: "natural nurturer; patient, devoted and protective." Is that Alea? I doubt it.

The only one I see is perhaps devoted (in work areas). I could easily classify as a misanthrope.

Also, short note: As I've told Orange Fusion, AsPD does run in my family and is quite rife, it may be entirely possible that I have a mild form of it that would make me much harder to type.

 

[Mal12345]

Interesting. I wonder if you relate to the INTJ profile in the same way?

That Alea quote is EXACTLY what I am trying to avoid with my test - picking and choosing from parts of statements. That is NO way to identify one's personality type.

 

[Anna Jorovic]

Here are personality traits: "natural nurturer; patient, devoted and protective." Is that Alea? I doubt it.

How should I know? We're not married or anything lol.

 

[Mal12345]

From my personality inventory:

"Consider the entire question; don't base your answer on agreeing with some parts and disagreeing with other parts. The entire question is important to consider when making your response."

 

[Alea_iacta_est]

That Alea quote is EXACTLY what I am trying to avoid with my test - picking and choosing from parts of statements. That is NO way to identify one's personality type.

Then what exactly was your purpose of copy pasting an INFJ profile here?

 

[Mal12345]

How should I know? We're not married or anything lol.

Actually, he's quite competitive. I'm not saying that INFJs can't be competitive, but it is not an INFJ personality trait.

 

[Mal12345]

Then what exactly was your purpose of copy pasting an INFJ profile here?

To discover your thinking process when reading these descriptions.

 

[Alea_iacta_est]

To discover your thinking process when reading these descriptions.

To lay things out here, where do you stand on this type-wise?

 

[Mal12345]

"INFJs are gentle, caring, complex and highly intuitive individuals." It doesn't say, "INFJs are complex and highly intuitive individuals," even though they are. There is a GOOD reason why it also includes "gentle" and "caring."

 

[Anna Jorovic]

That Alea quote is EXACTLY what I am trying to avoid with my test - picking and choosing from parts of statements. That is NO way to identify one's personality type.

It is a way. Whether it's a valid way or not is open to question.

Perhaps the easiest way to figure out your type is to go back to basics. I or E? S or N? Etc. Also to take a few Big Five tests, as four of the five scales do correlate with MBTI. Most of the time if you have clear preferences in all four areas then you have your type.

There is so much bullshit online about the cognitive functions - especially terrible descriptions - that it really doesn't help much, and leads to inevitable confusion.

 

[Anna Jorovic]

Actually, he's quite competitive. I'm not saying that INFJs can't be competitive, but it is not an INFJ personality trait.

Tell that to Adolf Hitler.

 

[Alea_iacta_est]

It is a way. Whether it's a valid way or not is open to question.

Perhaps the easiest way to figure out your type is to go back to basics. I or E? S or N? Etc. Also to take a few Big Five tests, as four of the five scales do correlate with MBTI. Most of the time if you have clear preferences in all four areas then you have your type.

There is so much bullshit online about the cognitive functions - especially terrible descriptions - that it really doesn't help much, and leads to inevitable confusion.

Big Five test: RCUEI, which correlates to INTP

 

[Alea_iacta_est]

Tell that to Adolf Hitler.

Never try and type dead people, people claim he's INFJ, INTJ, ENTJ, and god knows what else.

Also see the thread about mental disorders and mistypes, Hitler was clear AsPD comorbid NPD.

 

[Mal12345]

It is a way. Whether it's a valid way or not is open to question.

It's not a valid way.

Perhaps the easiest way to figure out your type is to go back to basics. I or E? S or N? Etc. Also to take a few Big Five tests, as four of the five scales do correlate with MBTI. Most of the time if you have clear preferences in all four areas then you have your type.

Ask my introverted wife who is Se-dom.

It may indeed work most of the time. But what about the rest of the time?

There is so much bullshit online about the cognitive functions - especially terrible descriptions - that it really doesn't help much, and leads to inevitable confusion.

Most of that is on the forums, e.g., INTPcentral.

 

[Mal12345]

Never try and type dead people, people claim he's INFJ, INTJ, ENTJ, and god knows what else.

Also see the thread about mental disorders and mistypes, Hitler was clear AsPD comorbid NPD.

ISTJ. CLEARLY.

 

[Mal12345]

Tell that to Adolf Hitler.

ISTJ

 

[Anna Jorovic]

Never try and type dead people, people claim he's INFJ, INTJ, ENTJ, and god knows what else.

Also see the thread about mental disorders and mistypes, Hitler was clear AsPD comorbid NPD.

Haha the difference is I understand this stuff, and I've read a few biographies about him, so plenty of information on both. He was INFJ. He wasn't actually that bad a guy, just completely crazy.

Were all your Big Five areas quite clear? If so then INTP or ENTP is almost certainly your type, even if you are so subjective.

 

[Anna Jorovic]

ISTJ

I've never read about a person less likely to be ISTJ. But we'll agree to disagree, as it's irrelevant.