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    "INFJs are gentle, caring, complex and highly intuitive individuals." It doesn't say, "INFJs are complex and highly intuitive individuals," even though they are. There is a GOOD reason why it also includes "gentle" and "caring."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    That Alea quote is EXACTLY what I am trying to avoid with my test - picking and choosing from parts of statements. That is NO way to identify one's personality type.
    It is a way. Whether it's a valid way or not is open to question.

    Perhaps the easiest way to figure out your type is to go back to basics. I or E? S or N? Etc. Also to take a few Big Five tests, as four of the five scales do correlate with MBTI. Most of the time if you have clear preferences in all four areas then you have your type.

    There is so much bullshit online about the cognitive functions - especially terrible descriptions - that it really doesn't help much, and leads to inevitable confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    Actually, he's quite competitive. I'm not saying that INFJs can't be competitive, but it is not an INFJ personality trait.
    Tell that to Adolf Hitler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Fusion View Post
    It is a way. Whether it's a valid way or not is open to question.

    Perhaps the easiest way to figure out your type is to go back to basics. I or E? S or N? Etc. Also to take a few Big Five tests, as four of the five scales do correlate with MBTI. Most of the time if you have clear preferences in all four areas then you have your type.

    There is so much bullshit online about the cognitive functions - especially terrible descriptions - that it really doesn't help much, and leads to inevitable confusion.
    Big Five test: RCUEI, which correlates to INTP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Fusion View Post
    Tell that to Adolf Hitler.
    Never try and type dead people, people claim he's INFJ, INTJ, ENTJ, and god knows what else.

    Also see the thread about mental disorders and mistypes, Hitler was clear AsPD comorbid NPD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Fusion View Post
    It is a way. Whether it's a valid way or not is open to question.
    It's not a valid way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Fusion View Post
    Perhaps the easiest way to figure out your type is to go back to basics. I or E? S or N? Etc. Also to take a few Big Five tests, as four of the five scales do correlate with MBTI. Most of the time if you have clear preferences in all four areas then you have your type.
    Ask my introverted wife who is Se-dom.

    It may indeed work most of the time. But what about the rest of the time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Fusion View Post
    There is so much bullshit online about the cognitive functions - especially terrible descriptions - that it really doesn't help much, and leads to inevitable confusion.
    Most of that is on the forums, e.g., INTPcentral.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Never try and type dead people, people claim he's INFJ, INTJ, ENTJ, and god knows what else.

    Also see the thread about mental disorders and mistypes, Hitler was clear AsPD comorbid NPD.
    ISTJ. CLEARLY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Fusion View Post
    Tell that to Adolf Hitler.
    ISTJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alea_iacta_est View Post
    Never try and type dead people, people claim he's INFJ, INTJ, ENTJ, and god knows what else.

    Also see the thread about mental disorders and mistypes, Hitler was clear AsPD comorbid NPD.
    Haha the difference is I understand this stuff, and I've read a few biographies about him, so plenty of information on both. He was INFJ. He wasn't actually that bad a guy, just completely crazy.

    Were all your Big Five areas quite clear? If so then INTP or ENTP is almost certainly your type, even if you are so subjective. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    ISTJ
    I've never read about a person less likely to be ISTJ. But we'll agree to disagree, as it's irrelevant.

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