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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Fusion View Post
    What do you mean exactly?
    An "INFJ" with buried Fe, or buried F in general, is not an INFJ. Nor is such a personality essentially INFJ. Your personality IS your essential personality, which is to say, the distinction is meaningless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    INFJs are, as a personality type, an intellectual personality type.

    It takes knowledge of these types, and of course you have some.

    So you also know that ENTPs and ENFPs can come across as introverts.
    Er yes haha. But what does the introversion of EN-Ps have to do with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Fusion View Post
    Er yes haha. But what does the introversion of EN-Ps have to do with it?
    It has to do with Alea, as an extroverted person, choosing an introverted type.
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    Yeah, I'm pretty much sold on INFJ now, thanks guys. Though I'm going to put it as INfJ because of how underdeveloped feeling is.
    @Orange Fusion If I see the word "subjective" one more time this week I might go kill a small child, at least use some variety, but thank you for your insight nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    It has to do with Alea, as an extroverted person, choosing an introverted type.
    I'm mostly sure that I'm not extroverted, I only get energized when I'm in the middle of socializing. Before a social event I'm often anxious and do not want to participate unless forced to. After a social event I'm completely exhausted and have to recharge.

    Unless I've just been a shadow-functioned ENTP the past few months which is entirely plausible due to some stressors.

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    http://www.personalitypage.com/INFJ.html

    INFJs are gentle, caring, complex and highly intuitive individuals. Artistic and creative, they live in a world of hidden meanings and possibilities. Only one percent of the population has an INFJ Personality Type, making it the most rare of all the types.

    INFJs place great importance on havings things orderly and systematic in their outer world. They put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities in their lives. On the other hand, INFJs operate within themselves on an intuitive basis which is entirely spontaneous. They know things intuitively, without being able to pinpoint why, and without detailed knowledge of the subject at hand. They are usually right, and they usually know it. Consequently, INFJs put a tremendous amount of faith into their instincts and intuitions. This is something of a conflict between the inner and outer worlds, and may result in the INFJ not being as organized as other Judging types tend to be. Or we may see some signs of disarray in an otherwise orderly tendency, such as a consistently messy desk.

    INFJs have uncanny insight into people and situations. They get "feelings" about things and intuitively understand them. As an extreme example, some INFJs report experiences of a psychic nature, such as getting strong feelings about there being a problem with a loved one, and discovering later that they were in a car accident. This is the sort of thing that other types may scorn and scoff at, and the INFJ themself does not really understand their intuition at a level which can be verbalized. Consequently, most INFJs are protective of their inner selves, sharing only what they choose to share when they choose to share it. They are deep, complex individuals, who are quite private and typically difficult to understand. INFJs hold back part of themselves, and can be secretive.

    But the INFJ is as genuinely warm as they are complex. INFJs hold a special place in the heart of people who they are close to, who are able to see their special gifts and depth of caring. INFJs are concerned for people's feelings, and try to be gentle to avoid hurting anyone. They are very sensitive to conflict, and cannot tolerate it very well. Situations which are charged with conflict may drive the normally peaceful INFJ into a state of agitation or charged anger. They may tend to internalize conflict into their bodies, and experience health problems when under a lot of stress.

    Because the INFJ has such strong intuitive capabilities, they trust their own instincts above all else. This may result in an INFJ stubborness and tendency to ignore other people's opinions. They believe that they're right. On the other hand, INFJ is a perfectionist who doubts that they are living up to their full potential. INFJs are rarely at complete peace with themselves - there's always something else they should be doing to improve themselves and the world around them. They believe in constant growth, and don't often take time to revel in their accomplishments. They have strong value systems, and need to live their lives in accordance with what they feel is right. In deference to the Feeling aspect of their personalities, INFJs are in some ways gentle and easy going. Conversely, they have very high expectations of themselves, and frequently of their families. They don't believe in compromising their ideals.

    INFJ is a natural nurturer; patient, devoted and protective. They make loving parents and usually have strong bonds with their offspring. They have high expectations of their children, and push them to be the best that they can be. This can sometimes manifest itself in the INFJ being hard-nosed and stubborn. But generally, children of an INFJ get devoted and sincere parental guidance, combined with deep caring.

    In the workplace, the INFJ usually shows up in areas where they can be creative and somewhat independent. They have a natural affinity for art, and many excel in the sciences, where they make use of their intuition. INFJs can also be found in service-oriented professions. They are not good at dealing with minutia or very detailed tasks. The INFJ will either avoid such things, or else go to the other extreme and become enveloped in the details to the extent that they can no longer see the big picture. An INFJ who has gone the route of becoming meticulous about details may be highly critical of other individuals who are not.

    The INFJ individual is gifted in ways that other types are not. Life is not necessarily easy for the INFJ, but they are capable of great depth of feeling and personal achievement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    An "INFJ" with buried Fe, or buried F in general, is not an INFJ. Nor is such a personality essentially INFJ. Your personality IS your essential personality, which is to say, the distinction is meaningless.
    I agree, to a point. But we don't know how much this person really "buries" Fe. I never even said I thought they were INFJ. I'm just pointing out that if a person's top two functions are Ni followed by Ti, and the others are nowhere close, then INFJ is the result - with a smaller chance of ISTP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Fusion View Post
    I agree, to a point. But we don't know how much this person really "buries" Fe. I never even said I thought they were INFJ. I'm just pointing out that if a person's top two functions are Ni followed by Ti, and the others are nowhere close, then INFJ is the result - with a smaller chance of ISTP.
    I know the theory. But in order to bring Ti to the auxiliary it is necessary to 'bury' Fe, meaning, to use it less than Ti.

    Anyway, this is all about cognitive styles now, not personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    I know the theory. But in order to bring Ti to the auxiliary it is necessary to 'bury' Fe, meaning, to use it less than Ti.

    Anyway, this is all about cognitive styles now, not personality.
    The whole theory has little to do with personality anyway, rather psychological perception styles. Any type, in theory, can have any kind of outward personality, but they will still see the world in different ways.

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    Here's what I identify with in this passage


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