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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Can you give an example of what it means to be a catalyst between people and systems? Does that mean persuading people to adopt systems and fitting people into them? Can you try to make this test as simple and concrete as possible and just say things like you're talking to a really smart 10 year old?

    Edit: Well it looks like you've already made it. But consider such revisions.
    Actually, I started on that process tonight. But it takes a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by senza tema View Post
    What about if you like to encourage independence in others when you're leading them but don't consider yourself a catalyst? What do you score the statement as?

    0.

    There were many statements I found ambiguous because they seemed to lump so many different themes together. I kinda scored those all in-between. Now I find out that's the wrong way to do things but I'm still not sure how wrong it is ... because it seems to me there are still variations in the degree of how much I can agree with statements.
    Some statements allow for more variation in degree than others. But then, maybe that's just how I would answer those. I can't speak for everybody.

    Perhaps the instructions should be clearer. I'm responding to every participant here. The instructions indicate that one must take an entire statement all together, as with a two-part statement containing the word "and." Obviously this is not going to be a disjunctive type of statement, or a combination of proposition types such as "and/or." AND means AND, it doesn't mean OR and it doesn't mean AND/OR.

    So one is either going to disagree with the statement entirely and score it a 0, or agree with the entire statement to some degree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Can you give an example of what it means to be a catalyst between people and systems? Does that mean persuading people to adopt systems and fitting people into them? Can you try to make this test as simple and concrete as possible and just say things like you're talking to a really smart 10 year old?

    Edit: Well it looks like you've already made it. But consider such revisions.
    A catalyst like oxygen makes fire possible. So the catalyst in an organization is a metaphor for that individual or group who makes people and systems work together in order to produce something greater than their sum.
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    Great, now I have to redo everything.

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    I'd like to take it... don't see a link, so are you sending it individually?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    A catalyst like oxygen makes fire possible. So the catalyst in an organization is a metaphor for that individual or group who makes people and systems work together in order to produce something greater than their sum.
    Thanks for the explanation, but it's still a bit vague.

    I figured, but what's a concrete example of this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Thanks for the explanation, but it's still a bit vague.

    I figured, but what's a concrete example of this?
    The QA department at my job, which enforces compliance with the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeAppled View Post
    I'd like to take it... don't see a link, so are you sending it individually?
    Yes. I'll send one along to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal12345 View Post
    The QA department at my job, which enforces compliance with the rules.
    I see. Fitting people and systems to each other.

    My answer would be a resounding no.

    I serve as a catalyst for fitting together meta-systems and systems of ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    I see. Fitting people and systems to each other.

    My answer would be a resounding no.

    I serve as a catalyst for fitting together meta-systems and systems of ideas.
    What else are you a catalyst for?
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