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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Look, I think the problem is that you don't accept the first rule of helping people, and that rule is, do no harm.

    Everything else is transparent manipulation.
    Answer my question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    I see.

    So, how large should this governing peer review body be?
    Well, if for instance we present a scientific work in Physics, then anyone is entitled to criticise it.

    However mostly likely working Physicists will criticise the work.

    The same of course for medicine or psychology or ethnomusicology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Well, if for instance we present a scientific work in Physics, then anyone is entitled to criticise it.

    However mostly likely working Physicists will criticise the work.

    The same of course for medicine or psychology or ethnomusicology.
    Alright. So anyone is entitled to criticize my work. The judging body is of infinite size. Now what happens after the work is judged?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    Who is capable of judging what logic is sound and valid?

    Who is capable of judging if the logic of the judging entity is valid?

    You?

    What makes you so special, because you said so?

    What about stephen hawking, I hear he's a pretty cool guy. Lets put him in charge of our science.
    A professor of Symbolic Logic is capable of judging whether logic is sound and valid. But logic doesn't get us very far. We need empirical evidence and reason. And the reason is usually inferential logic rather than deductive logic.

    Science is a process falsifiability. Science is not a matter of authority or bellef, but rather a matter of scepticism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    A professor of Symbolic Logic is capable of judging whether logic is sound and valid. But logic doesn't get us very far. We need empirical evidence and reason. And the reason is usually inferential logic rather than deductive logic.

    Science is a process falsifiability. Science is not a matter of authority or bellef, but rather a matter of scepticism.
    Answer my latest question. What happens when my work is judged. Stop wasting my time and running me in circles. Wearing me out doesn't make you intelligent, it makes you a coward for not having the guts to admit you were wrong. Stop wasting my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    Alright. So anyone is entitled to criticize my work. The judging body is of infinite size. Now what happens after the work is judged?
    Many will repeat the experiment in the hope of finding a discrepancy. For instance, many continue to measure the speed of light in the hope of finding something faster.

    And as the speed of light has not been falsified for more than 100 years, we feel more confident in the facts of Relativity which are based on the speed of light as the maximum speed possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Arendee View Post
    Answer my latest question. What happens when my work is judged. Stop wasting my time and running me in circles. Wearing me out doesn't make you intelligent, it makes you a coward for not having the guts to admit you were wrong. Stop wasting my time.
    My issue with you is a moral issue. But is seems to be an issue to which you are blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mole View Post
    Many will repeat the experiment in the hope of finding a discrepancy. For instance, many continue to measure the speed of light in the hope of finding something faster.

    And as the speed of light has not been falsified for more than 100 years, we feel more confident in the facts of Relativity which are based on the speed of light as the maximum speed possible.
    Fair enough.

    So lets just say hypothetically I made 100+ youtube videos and posted them on the internet for an infinite number of people to judge and test for themselves.

    Suddenly word spreads that I know what I'm talking about and suddenly this happens:



    Is this any different than your scenario?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetani View Post
    There are better things to do with your money than to pay for psuedoscientific fluff that doesn't even engage you in any way.
    Well, but consider all the time I and so many others spend on here analyzing the types of ourselves and others. If time roughly translated to money, we'd be wasting a lot of it when we could just get typed by a professional and be done with it. Assuming that would work better, which most of us are not assuming...but you never know.



    @Mole, you and @DJ Arendee are entitled to your debate. But I have to personally step in here because it's my thread; I think you are overreacting. Anyone is entitled to charge $30 for anything. The problem is when they claim to have credentials which they don't (and DJ Arendee is not doing this). That's what laws protect. I could sell you a bottle of water "charged with energy" and call it a potion, and if you want to buy it, no one is going to try to stop you by telling you you are gullible. And think about it, if you really wanted to, would you even want them to stop you?

    Now I'm all about academia, and want to go into the field- but that doesn't mean I think only professors can know anything about philosophy, and only psychologists can make insights into personality. To the extent that something adheres to the scientific method, then academia is the proper realm for it- but many things really don't, including psychology. It was only recently that psychology took a turn toward behaviorism and physicalism, rejecting the notion of consciousness which is independent of the body, because they wanted to be "validated" by the scientific community- but the relation between mind and body is still in debate. Things which aren't strictly scientific are partly just based on opinion of the educated, and educated people can be anywhere.

    I think this is a classic debate between Te and Ti, with Te over-relying on external validation. So please don't call people sociopaths because they don't share your view.

    Also I'm guessing your Te is inferior, because this is exactly the kind of thing I've read about in my research on inferior functions, so I'm typing you as INFP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Anyone is entitled to charge $30 for anything. The problem is when they claim to have credentials which they don't (and DJ Arendee is not doing this). That's what laws protect. I could sell you a bottle of water "charged with energy" and call it a potion, and if you want to buy it, no one is going to try to stop you by telling you you are gullible.
    We have Consumer Protection Laws, don't you?

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