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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Here is the history of typology according to other forum members:

    First there was Jung. Then Myers-Briggs came along.

    50 years passed....

    Then suddenly, there was Lenore Thomson, who knows the truth about everything.
    Interesting. Never heard of Lenore Thomson. I came at this way of understanding people via Myers Briggs which I found really helpful, then on this site everyone talks about Fi Ne etc etc so I read up about the functions. I assumed this was considered to be a 'move forward', however, personally I think it stretches the theory too thin and ruins it's usefulness. There is no way you can fully explain a person via any system since, fundamentally, we are each unique, and also in unique circumstances. I do think there is a place for systems but they must necessarily remain broad and not try to explain every detail, or they fall into error and then lose all credibility (which is a shame, because there is truth and value in the system). In view of this, maybe its best to stick to MBTI and forget JCF altogether? What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatharineML View Post
    Interesting. Never heard of Lenore Thomson. I came at this way of understanding people via Myers Briggs which I found really helpful, then on this site everyone talks about Fi Ne etc etc so I read up about the functions. I assumed this was considered to be a 'move forward', however, personally I think it stretches the theory too thin and ruins it's usefulness. There is no way you can fully explain a person via any system since, fundamentally, we are each unique, and also in unique circumstances. I do think there is a place for systems but they must necessarily remain broad and not try to explain every detail, or they fall into error and then lose all credibility (which is a shame, because there is truth and value in the system). In view of this, maybe its best to stick to MBTI and forget JCF altogether? What do you think?
    I'm in favor of separating the two systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I'm in favor of separating the two systems.
    Yes, that may be the best idea. How would you do this?

    Using me as an example; I come up as INTP in the JCF tests, but E/INFJ in the Myers Briggs? And actually, I find I relate to both INTP and INFJ. Maybe others find this also? Separating the systems would mean I could identify as both, but how could that work since in theory they contradict one another?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatharineML View Post
    Yes, that may be the best idea. How would you do this?

    Using me as an example; I come up as INTP in the JCF tests, but E/INFJ in the Myers Briggs? And actually, I find I relate to both INTP and INFJ. Maybe others find this also? Separating the systems would mean I could identify as both, but how could that work since in theory they contradict one another?
    I see no issue whatsoever. Two different systems, two different results.

    If you're wondering why you scored as different types, Ti is the tertiary of the INFJ type.
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    Does sound more like an E.

    Hmmm....She could be an F. Does she try to solve problems from "this is right and this is wrong, therefore..." (an F) or "this comes from a more objective source and this from subjective, therefore...." (a T)? If she is religious it could be difficult to differentiate, as religious people usually will include their beliefs in decisions, which can come across as "this is right and this is wrong". A tip here could be, is she easily swayed by emotion? This could be generalizing, but I have a thinker sister and a thinker friend, and neither are easily swayed by their emotions, whereas they are more receptive to things like facts and statistics. (I generally avoid arguing with them because of this, haha. They are both ESTJ, and both very intelligent and informed about their topics, and stubborn in their opinions.)

    I agree with a previous poster that she sounds like an ENFP and not an ENTP. The writing part did it for me; my dad is ENFP and feels the need to have things down in writing (he calls it his "paper brains") whereas my ENTP sister has never been big on writing, though she can, and quite wittily when she wants.

    Does she have any "creative genius", so to speak? This doesn't strictly apply to art, it can be seen in mechanical ingenuity or in general being a creative problem solver. It may seem trivial, but I think her curiosity and the legos would mean she is a little. My dad and a friend (who is also ENFP) both are really into figuring out how things work and making new things and combining things into genius creations. (As an INFP, I was also curious, but I somehow never possessed the ability to put things back together after having taken them apart.) X)

    ENFP's are really "git-r-done" type of people, or so I've read (and observed.) Does this fit her at all?

    (I also feel obliged to add that femininity and sociability are not directly related to the F-type or the E-type, though they certainly go together often.)
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    I would also like to add: J-types love lists. My two J-type sisters (and my mother) are list aholics. I didn't realize the full extent of this love until, when sitting in my sister's room one day, I picked up one of her notepads and found it full of lists. And there was another one. Full of lists. I knew already that she would schedule her day on a marker board, but I was just blown away by how utterly organized she was, and in such a detailed way! I tested as a somewhat weak P-type, and I know I am because I too like lists, though in great moderation and usually in a "pros and cons" way.
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