User Tag List

First 12345 Last

Results 21 to 30 of 56

  1. #21
    Senior Member Mal12345's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    MBTI
    IxTP
    Enneagram
    5w4 sx/sp
    Socionics
    LII Ti
    Posts
    13,991

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Many people do, and I don't. I will address this in my future post. The right method appears to be circular, but isn't if you do it right. If you do it wrong or use an incorrect method which looks like it (like spiritual people must be INFP's), then it just perpetuates all sorts of incorrectness and merits your criticism. The correct method only looks circular because it involves both induction and deduction, in a process of them working together.
    Now you're saying it only looks circular. But it's about justifying the conclusion. Either it's a circular justification, or it's not.
    "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth." Mike Tyson
    “Culture?” says Paul McCartney. “This isn't culture. It's just a good laugh.”

  2. #22
    Retired Nicki's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    1,512

    Default

    ENTP
    I really like cats and food.

  3. #23
    philosopher wood nymph greenfairy's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    MBTI
    iNfj
    Enneagram
    6w5 sx/sp
    Posts
    4,042

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Now you're saying it only looks circular. But it's about justifying the conclusion. Either it's a circular justification, or it's not.
    I don't know the answer. It's not circular in the way an invalid argument or fallacy or something is. The processes involves forming theories and then getting data to support it, then modifying the theories accordingly. So the two reinforce each other. That's the way scientific investigation works. Are you saying that's circular too? I think you are just thinking it looks that way.

  4. #24
    Senior Member KatharineML's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    MBTI
    ?
    Enneagram
    5w6 so/sp
    Posts
    118

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    In other words, ENTP, INTP, ENFP, or INFP.

    There are more signs of extraversion than introversion in the description given. Their only question was F or T. ENTP tends to be more unruly than ENFP.
    Hmm, interesting. She's not as brazen as the ENFP's I know, but not an INFP I don't think. Not subtle enough - given to sharing her opinion freely. Is there any chance she is a J type? Couldn't the NiFe combo manifest as explorative also? I think we can safely say she's an N. I've been thinking recently, maybe a confident and well educated INFJ??

  5. #25
    Senior Member KatharineML's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    MBTI
    ?
    Enneagram
    5w6 so/sp
    Posts
    118

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    But that's circular reasoning. You have to assume what the person's type is and then describe that type's motivations, correlating them with the described behaviors (such as "likes to bug teachers"). Circular.
    We have to start with the observations and fit them into the caricatures of type to some degree. Possible motivations can be considered from there, along with finer nuances of behaviour which might tip the balance in favour of one type or another. It's not an exact science, since we're talking about human beings and PREFERENCE here.

    So what type do you think my friend is? She seems to get more confused the more tests she does and the more she looks into it! She's not confused about her other beliefs - only who she about herself! (could this characteristic be a clue?)

  6. #26
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    MBTI
    intp
    Enneagram
    4
    Socionics
    INTj
    Posts
    1

    Default

    hands down INTP - seems like someone as describing me

  7. #27
    Senior Member KatharineML's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    MBTI
    ?
    Enneagram
    5w6 so/sp
    Posts
    118

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by zodiac View Post
    hands down INTP - seems like someone as describing me
    thanks zodiac

  8. #28
    Senior Member Mal12345's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    MBTI
    IxTP
    Enneagram
    5w4 sx/sp
    Socionics
    LII Ti
    Posts
    13,991

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    I don't know the answer. It's not circular in the way an invalid argument or fallacy or something is. The processes involves forming theories and then getting data to support it, then modifying the theories accordingly. So the two reinforce each other. That's the way scientific investigation works. Are you saying that's circular too? I think you are just thinking it looks that way.
    Theories aren't formed out of thin air.
    "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth." Mike Tyson
    “Culture?” says Paul McCartney. “This isn't culture. It's just a good laugh.”

  9. #29
    Senior Member Mal12345's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    MBTI
    IxTP
    Enneagram
    5w4 sx/sp
    Socionics
    LII Ti
    Posts
    13,991

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KatharineML View Post
    We have to start with the observations and fit them into the caricatures of type to some degree. Possible motivations can be considered from there, along with finer nuances of behaviour which might tip the balance in favour of one type or another. It's not an exact science, since we're talking about human beings and PREFERENCE here.

    So what type do you think my friend is? She seems to get more confused the more tests she does and the more she looks into it! She's not confused about her other beliefs - only who she about herself! (could this characteristic be a clue?)
    As I said, she sounds like an ENFP from your descriptions.

    http://www.personalitypage.com/ENFP.html
    "ENFPs are charming, ingenuous, risk-taking, sensitive, people-oriented individuals with capabilities ranging across a broad spectrum. They have many gifts which they will use to fulfill themselves and those near them, if they are able to remain centered and master the ability of following through."

    I'll leave open the possibility of ENTP:
    "In general, ENTPs are upbeat visionaries. They highly value knowledge, and spend much of their lives seeking a higher understanding. They live in the world of possibilities, and become excited about concepts, challenges and difficulties. When presented with a problem, they're good at improvising and quickly come up with a creative solution. Creative, clever, curious, and theoretical, ENTPs have a broad range of possibilities in their lives."
    http://www.personalitypage.com/ENTP.html
    "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth." Mike Tyson
    “Culture?” says Paul McCartney. “This isn't culture. It's just a good laugh.”

  10. #30
    Senior Member Mal12345's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    MBTI
    IxTP
    Enneagram
    5w4 sx/sp
    Socionics
    LII Ti
    Posts
    13,991

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by KatharineML View Post
    Hmm, interesting. She's not as brazen as the ENFP's I know, but not an INFP I don't think. Not subtle enough - given to sharing her opinion freely. Is there any chance she is a J type? Couldn't the NiFe combo manifest as explorative also? I think we can safely say she's an N. I've been thinking recently, maybe a confident and well educated INFJ??
    Is she more spontaneous than self-controlled? Or vice versa?
    Is she more decisive than indecisive?
    "Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth." Mike Tyson
    “Culture?” says Paul McCartney. “This isn't culture. It's just a good laugh.”

Similar Threads

  1. Help me type my friend
    By Panrue in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 06-04-2014, 06:23 PM
  2. Help me type my friend, please?
    By musicnerd93 in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 10-04-2010, 01:56 PM
  3. help me type my close friend!
    By Rebe in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-26-2010, 06:31 PM
  4. Can anyone help me type my friend?
    By gdhc08 in forum What's my Type?
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 02-01-2010, 01:21 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO