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    Well, now that that's over and done with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Title View Post
    That's true. How do you think it would look?
    I didn't want to speak in absolutes. I never do. I don't have a particular type in mind, but I'm open to suggestions.
    Umm, I'm not sure how it would look, but I imagine it would try to organise that which Ni is perceiving in it's environment, which would say more about the people you are around and the worldview you have absorbed/are absorbing from around you than anything else. For you, maybe then, it would be quite tricky to even use it, since you seem to have no reason to believe things CAN be organised? Maybe this is why you are confused and yet still seeking that box to fit in somehow? I am sure many of us on this site, and at this time in the world, feel this way, I know I relate to it.
    So yes, I still think you are likely to be INTJ, though possibly INFJ also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatharineML View Post
    Umm, I'm not sure how it would look, but I imagine it would try to organise that which Ni is perceiving in it's environment, which would say more about the people you are around and the worldview you have absorbed/are absorbing from around you than anything else. For you, maybe then, it would be quite tricky to even use it, since you seem to have no reason to believe things CAN be organised? Maybe this is why you are confused and yet still seeking that box to fit in somehow? I am sure many of us on this site, and at this time in the world, feel this way, I know I relate to it.
    So yes, I still think you are likely to be INTJ, though possibly INFJ also.
    No, I've always enjoyed organizing and categorizing things, though I find it tedious to store all of that data in my mind at once, it has to develop into a system over time. I don't consider my thoughts organized, but they are definitely split into categories and shared attributes. At the same time, I don't believe that absolutely everything must be organized, but I have a tendency to do so even though my external organization skills are absolutely dreadful (when speaking of things like rooms and workspaces). It's funny how the two types people seem to want to place me as in this thread are opposites in terms of function order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Title View Post
    How do I communicate about the world in a way that indicates a preference for Se? IIRC, in the first post, I regularly tested as Se being one of my very lowest functions. I'm not very comfortable being typed based on voice and video.

    And while I appreciate it, there's pretty much no way I am a sensor because almost none of the traits applied to sensors or any of the processes associated with Se are things I actually do/have done. In fact, those all tend to be more weak spots for me. If we're speaking metaphorically, say, there is a house that a person is looking into. A sensor looking into the house is going to be focusing at any given moment on the features of a room, the physical comfort they feel in it, the vibe they get from it, while the intuitive is probably going to be either walking into a room, sizing up the general feel of it, seeing what else they could put in the room, and moving onto another. Generally speaking, of course. That description is a bit more Se vs. Ne instead of Sx vs. Nx, but you get the point and the general gist.
    I always see cause and effect. I always see perspectives. I always see what something is meant to represent rather than what something is. I much rather enjoy immersing myself in fantasy instead of things readily available. And I love theoretical topics more than hands-on topics because I love thinking about the things that most people don't entertain, the things that you don't see, the things that can't be tangibly explained. I have SP friends and they share an affinity for hands-on learning and a sharp dislike for being forced to sit down and listen to theoretical lectures. I'm the other way around. I also have SJ friends, and they don't care for wondering about the future or theoretical things because the world has never really been that way so they think they could be much more productive thinking about something real.

    Wow, that was a trainwreck of a paragraph - forgive me, I'm tired, haha.
    Duly noted.

    One last question and I'll leave you to it: if you're certain about everything you've said about your proclivities, and have multiple test results indicating one particular type and function preference, then what motivated you to create this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Title View Post
    No, I've always enjoyed organizing and categorizing things, though I find it tedious to store all of that data in my mind at once, it has to develop into a system over time. I don't consider my thoughts organized, but they are definitely split into categories and shared attributes. At the same time, I don't believe that absolutely everything must be organized, but I have a tendency to do so even though my external organization skills are absolutely dreadful (when speaking of things like rooms and workspaces). It's funny how the two types people seem to want to place me as in this thread are opposites in terms of function order.

    I test exclusively ENTP and INTJ, and I know nor am I perceived as either. Take from that what you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jontherobot View Post
    I test exclusively ENTP and INTJ, and I know nor am I perceived as either. Take from that what you will.
    I would have 'percieved' you as one of them. They are very alike online, but in person the ENTP has more of a social presence. There are a lot more differences, but that is the initially obvious one. I guess you must be on the cusp of introversion and extroversion since both those types have the same ORDER of preferences - NTFS - and if you start with a mid Ne/Ni, you can presumably go either way with the rest of them, right?

    Maybe that is the root of your confusion too, Title? If you could decide whether you are a feeler or a thinker, instinctively, that would help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KatharineML View Post
    I would have 'percieved' you as one of them. They are very alike online, but in person the ENTP has more of a social presence. There are a lot more differences, but that is the initially obvious one. I guess you must be on the cusp of introversion and extroversion since both those types have the same ORDER of preferences - NTFS - and if you start with a mid Ne/Ni, you can presumably go either way with the rest of them, right?

    Maybe that is the root of your confusion too, Title? If you could decide whether you are a feeler or a thinker, instinctively, that would help.
    Perhaps. How would you define the core differences between a feeler and a thinker?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wind-Up Rex View Post
    Duly noted.

    One last question and I'll leave you to it: if you're certain about everything you've said about your proclivities, and have multiple test results indicating one particular type and function preference, then what motivated you to create this thread?
    Didn't see this.
    Because regardless of what type the tests came out as, there was no clear function preference.
    I'm certain I'm an intuitive, as I said in the title of the thread.
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    I would say the easiest place to see the difference is in the area of 'values' or right and wrong: A thinker uses logic or principles to define values/right and wrong. A feeler uses their moral instinct/feelings (their own and/or others/society's) to define values/right and wrong.
    Of course, we all use BOTH, it's just that one comes more naturally to us than the other and we feel more comfortable using it (according to Jungian theory).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Title View Post
    Didn't see this.
    Because regardless of what type the tests came out as, there was no clear function preference.
    I'm certain I'm an intuitive, as I said in the title of the thread.
    For you, I think it's best to forget the function preference and focus on more general type descriptions and where you fit there. It's probably when you're most relaxed and least conscious of yourself that you are behaving true to type ... maybe ask someone you are close to and who knows you really well to describe you at your best/most natural, in 5-10 words/sentences. Then post it here and see what people say and what types relate to it.

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