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    This is a chicken and egg problem, if you think it through.
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    Gosh, the world looks so small from up here on my high horse of menstruation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salomé View Post
    This is a chicken and egg problem, if you think it through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    FWIW, I know what you mean. I think. Thomson touched on it as where Fe reflects an immediate or community framework, Fi is expressing a more general notion of "humanity". What I had confusion with about her explanation is the differences between Se and Ne (ISFP and INFP). It didn't seem like she was differentiating them that much, other than that INFPs just take it a step further.
    Hmm. I wasn't really taking them into account. I suppose they would give two distinct flavors; in my experience with IFP's though they haven't made a difference in terms of degree of "sensitivity" though. (I know 3 confirmed IFP's, and they are all over the top. So maybe my experience is biased.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Hmm. I wasn't really taking them into account. I suppose they would give two distinct flavors; in my experience with IFP's though they haven't made a difference in terms of degree of "sensitivity" though. (I know 3 confirmed IFP's, and they are all over the top. So maybe my experience is biased.)
    Oh, I was chiming in to Standuble and Salome's discussion.

    As for your original question, ITPs aren't less sensitive. Maybe Ne is a bit more oblivious when someone is disrespecting them, so they're indifferent. Also, they care less about being relevant (or "popular" in some way.. and while I don't care about those things now, my more frustrating years was when I was more concerned. I think how you want to be seen plays into sensitivity. If someone is a threat to that, you might jump too quickly at defending yourself). That said, the first impulse for a Ti dominant wouldn't be to respond diplomatically. Which might be ignoring "F" actually. These are things I've only learned better over time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Oh, I was chiming in to Standuble and Salome's discussion.

    As for your original question, ITPs aren't less sensitive. Maybe Ne is a bit more oblivious when someone is disrespecting them, so they're indifferent. Also, they care less about being relevant (or "popular" in some way.. and while I don't care about those things now, my more frustrating years was when I was more concerned. I think how you want to be seen plays into sensitivity. If someone is a threat to that, you might jump too quickly at defending yourself). That said, the first impulse for a Ti dominant wouldn't be to respond diplomatically. Which might be ignoring "F" actually. These are things I've only learned better over time.
    I think I disagree, but interesting thought. I definitely relate to Ne obliviousness to disrespect.

    Everyone is sensitive to their inferior function, so Ti dominants would be sensitive about Fe issues- but that would look different from Fi dominant.

    If you want to define sensitivity broadly, you could say everyone is but in a way which corresponds to their type and functions. It's just that the standard ways of using the word are usually applied to INFP's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    If you want to define sensitivity broadly, you could say everyone is but in a way which corresponds to their type and functions. It's just that the standard ways of using the word are usually applied to INFP's.
    Yeah maybe. While I say I've been guilty of sensitivity, I don't experience it as the pensive/Kurt Cobain/emokid stereotype. I've just been some punk who flew off the handle at dumb things, in hindsight. It was bad enough that my parents made me see a shrink when I was in middle school. Anger issues.. Homicidal, rather than suicidal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDude View Post
    Yeah maybe. While I say I've been guilty of sensitivity, I don't experience it as the pensive/Kurt Cobain/emokid stereotype. I've just been some punk who flew off the handle at dumb things, in hindsight. It was bad enough that my parents made me see a shrink when I was in middle school. Anger issues.. Homicidal, rather than suicidal.
    And that's more the inferior Fe.

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