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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    You are not an ISFP!
    How?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    There are so many definitions of Ni around the Internet and I'm not sure exactly what it means. I know what Fi is and I definitely relate to it. I get my morals through my inner feelings rather than what other people's feelings. How does inferior Te work? I relate much more to inferior Se. Here, personalitycafe, and greenlightwiki.
    The inside awareness independent of how it effects the external world seems more like NiFi and inferior Se.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    I thought it over and I realized that I'm not an extravert, I just wanted to see myself as one. People exhaust me and I get energized from living in my inner world. I don't feel like I live in the external world. I'm fairly unhealthy currently so it would make a bit of sense. I relate really well to ISFPs.
    An SP would get out and interact with the 'real' world, and a feeling one on top of that would like people.

    If you would like more evidence and examples, I can provide it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    My friend I've been talking to for a while thinks I'm an ISFP. I think it's definitely possible considering I'm pretty unhealthy emotionally. INTJs are often glorified on the Internet and maybe I want to see myself as something I'm not. Ask me anything!

    I'm going to talk about whatever comes to mind. My ultimate goal in life is to become my ideal of perfection and create an impact on the world that will last at least a million years. I care a lot about being authentic to my myself and my morals. I don't believe in excuses ever when it comes to doing the right thing. I believe in emotional control at all times in order to do what I deem as the right thing to do. I try to push my personal feelings aside when I help others out because I usually don't care too much about people around me, I care much more about doing the right thing. I'm fine with making people angry as long as I'm true to my morals.

    I have 13 70-page journals dedicated to long term planning and I consider myself very results-oriented. I'm also a 3w4 though. I don't really believe in living in the moment because everything adds up in the end IMO. I'm also very oblivious to anything that doesn't have to do with a goal. For example, I didn't notice my house had a dishwasher until a few months ago and I've been living here for 9 years. I also can never remember details in an environment. I'm not observant at all.

    I'm very into aesthetics and shock affect. Many times, I say something ridiculous or blunt just to impact others. I've very focused on making on making an impact, doesn't matter if it's negative or positive, the more, the better. I'm very, very into fashion. I love reading fashion history books and browsing magazines. I love creating things. I get a sense of satisfaction from creating beautiful things. When someone has that ability, I tend to really admire them. It's amazing IMO.

    I really hate conflict sometimes but the other times, I find it fun and refreshing. I used to have a problem in which I created conflicts in my relationships just because I was bored and wanted to spice things up.

    I really dislike being controlled. My first reaction to someone telling me to do something is to not do it but then I recognize that that's unreasonable so I do whatever will help me achieve what I want to. I dislike the system and I seek to change it one day. I don't really like people who blindly obey rules and I hate it when people don't critically think at all.

    By the way, I'm a 3w4 1w2 7w8 which can really affect the way I come off.
    Honestly, I see no real reason to question your type, based on the information you've put forth. It all seems very in line with an ego-centric (I don't mean that in a bad way ) INTJ that wants to make their mark on the world (which explains why you've typed as a 3).

    Even if you're worried about your 'unhealthiness' impacting your type, I don't think even the unhealthiest of ISFPs could pull off the INTJ look for long. So if you're being honest with what you're posting (and there's no reason for me to think you're not), I hardly see the worry. Keep in mind that this is your friend, too, who likely sees you at your best and at your worst. Seeing all sides of you, like when you're upset and bound to express your tert/inferior functions, would affect his/her judgment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    The inside awareness independent of how it effects the external world seems more like NiFi and inferior Se.
    Oh okay, yeah, I can see that.

    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    An SP would get out and interact with the 'real' world, and a feeling one on top of that would like people.

    If you would like more evidence and examples, I can provide it.
    Hmm I'm not sure what this means but sometimes when I stay in my house for too long, I can go kind of insane and get this fear of becoming disconnected from reality. I heard a lot of Fi doms are misanthropes. Could you provide more please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ism View Post
    Honestly, I see no real reason to question your type, based on the information you've put forth. It all seems very in line with an ego-centric (I don't mean that in a bad way ) INTJ that wants to make their mark on the world (which explains why you've typed as a 3).

    Even if you're worried about your 'unhealthiness' impacting your type, I don't think even the unhealthiest of ISFPs could pull off the INTJ look for long. So if you're being honest with what you're posting (and there's no reason for me to think you're not), I hardly see the worry. Keep in mind that this is your friend, too, who likely sees you at your best and at your worst. Seeing all sides of you, like when you're upset and bound to express your tert/inferior functions, would affect his/her judgment.
    What about my desire for impact?

    I was trying to be as honest as I possibly could. When I first made a thread asking about my type on this forum, a long time ago, I wasn't being too honest and I was kind of afraid of people saying that I was an asshole or something similar. Yeah, that would make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    What about my desire for impact?
    As in making your mark on the world? Still INTJ. INTJs in fiction, for example, are often the visionaries who want to have a long-reaching influence, even past their death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ism View Post
    As in making your mark on the world? Still INTJ. INTJs in fiction, for example, are often the visionaries who want to have a long-reaching influence, even past their death.
    Ah, they tend to be type 3s right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    It doesn't seem worth it but
    I'd reduce my payout to 5 million
    Internet- 18 points
    Library and study with every book published- 4 points
    Workout Room- 5 points
    Hygiene Products- 3 points
    All movies and TV shows- 4 points
    Total: 34 points
    The only things on that list that seem more SFP than NTJ are the last 2, but you didn't even give them as many points. The internet on the other hand is a conduit of multiple possibilities that can be programmed and experienced with joy by the mind of an NT.
    What is reality? Isn't everything we know and see subjective? How do we know for sure what reality is? After all, everything's perspective and we never know anything for sure. (I'm not allowed to pull up the source directly from the SP private forum, but here's the source - http://www.typologycentral.com/forum...0790&p=2030375)
    I don't think I have ever seen any ordinary SPs fond of this kind of meta-perspectivization.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    I related to these things.

    "I have a tendency to want to forget everything before the present moment, because it's immaterial. Even if what I've been through has made me somewhat of a role model, and even if I can recall those experiences for my own betterment and the betterment of others, I'd still choose to ignore them (or at least treat them objectively or from a distance) if possible. It's as if the person way back then was 'not me,' that adversity is absolutely great so long as it's actually been overcome, and that I'd rather not be reminded of the 'failure' I used to be, thank you very much."

    "I outright mentor those who work for me and we're very vulnerable with one another. We know each other pretty well, which, among other things, provides context in the work environment. My opinion is that people are of the utmost importance and that we ought to be able to cut through our bullshit, and I strive for higher positions to increase my sphere of influence both for my gain and so I can fix this sort of culture to the extent that I can.

    I used to have a bit of anxiety about being judged or rejected by those who were important to me, and it was difficult to find "safe" atmospheres. In keeping with my last answer above, I decided instead to create those safe atmospheres."
    I'm not sure this is all type related, but in you first paragraph, you mentioned something about rising above challenges and overcoming adversity - which is more ITJish.

    Again, if this is insufficient, I can dig a deeper hole into your history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ism View Post
    As in making your mark on the world? Still INTJ. INTJs in fiction, for example, are often the visionaries who want to have a long-reaching influence, even past their death.
    The scientific man does not aim at an immediate result. He does not expect that his advanced ideas will be readily taken up. His work is like that of the planter — for the future. His duty is to lay the foundation for those who are to come, and point the way. He lives and labors and hopes. - Nikola Tesla

    There's a prime example for you - and yes, this desire to transform the world is very much in line with NTJ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleda View Post
    Ah, they tend to be type 3s right?
    Can't say for sure, but type 3s aren't called Achievers for nothing.

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