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    Quote Originally Posted by Folderol View Post
    This website is one man's way of visually representing the cognitive processes to "see" how they work. I think it's an interesting representation. http://player2000gi.alotspace.com/jungian_functions.htm



    How do you know you are getting the most accurate full image if you are leaving holes then filling them in yourself? I know what you mean though, just a counterargument. Nuance is the key word. Seeing the forest for the trees is also a good way to describe it. Some place priority on the details to create the big picture (more accuracy), while it sounds like you place priority on the total picture, filling them in and skimming along the way (more speed).
    Site isn't working for whatever reason.

    I'm not getting the most accurate full image, but usually I get just enough details I need to visualize it. It's a way to compromise with myself, because I tend to want to jump to the end and then go back and fill in the rest, and that really sucks when you constantly automatically jump to the end of a page. I'm a very visual person, so I suppose that has something to do with it.

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    INFJ, good Ti
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    INFJ, good Ti
    I'm flattered, shortnsweet, simply flattered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Title View Post
    I'm flattered, shortnsweet, simply flattered.
    I'm glad, Title.
    Now we are friends.
    06/13 10:51:03 five sounds: you!!!
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    06/13 10:51:12 shortnsweet: go do your things and my things too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shortnsweet View Post
    I'm glad, Title.
    Now we are friends.
    Sounds groovy. I like friends and I had a nice chuckle at your avatar.

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    @Folderol, very interesting link you provided -- I relate a lot to both extroverted intuition and introverted intuition, but the little things they put about Ni users/NJs sound really accurate. Also, I tried that "guide to double checking your type" thing, and I ended up directing/responding, which corresponds to INFJs -- also, NF temperament was accurate (NT was close). So perhaps I really am an INFJ. Isn't it said that one might not always relate to their dominant function because it occurs so unconsciously for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Title View Post
    Some people think I'm INFJ and I relate to the descriptions, but I don't understand Ni very well, so I have no idea. Do you have any analyses to give? Thanks for feedback btw.
    Ni probably takes the longest to fully understand, think of it as your anchor and emotional well. Folderlol explains it pretty well, it's like Ni pulls an idea inwards creating something solid and concrete rather than expand it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Folderol View Post
    How do you know you are getting the most accurate full image if you are leaving holes then filling them in yourself? I know what you mean though, just a counterargument. Nuance is the key word. Seeing the forest for the trees is also a good way to describe it. Some place priority on the details to create the big picture (more accuracy), while it sounds like you place priority on the total picture, filling them in and skimming along the way (more speed).
    EXACTLY what I thought when I saw that about reading. When I read something, I'll enjoy it much more in a second read through then just skimming. In fact I'll sit there read the same paragraph several times when I sit down for a long reading session just so I can "zone in" to the book and get a complete picture without missing the details. If I don't I'll forget half the bits and pieces because I'll be side tracked with other details. That's Ne for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joehobo View Post
    Ni probably takes the longest to fully understand, think of it as your anchor and emotional well. Folderlol explains it pretty well, it's like Ni pulls an idea inwards creating something solid and concrete rather than expand it.

    EXACTLY what I thought when I saw that about reading. When I read something, I'll enjoy it much more in a second read through then just skimming. In fact I'll sit there read the same paragraph several times when I sit down for a long reading session just so I can "zone in" to the book and get a complete picture without missing the details. If I don't I'll forget half the bits and pieces because I'll be side tracked with other details. That's Ne for you.
    I sort of get it. My mind works in ways I apparently can't comprehend. That's really cool.

    I asked my INTP friend about it and she said the same thing as you. I don't understand! How can you guys pay that much attention? ...oh god, it must take you forever to read books! I applaud your perseverance. *furious clapping*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Title View Post
    How can you guys pay that much attention? ...oh god, it must take you forever to read books! I applaud your perseverance. *furious clapping*
    I don't think it's about attention. I just feel most confident when I have been given all the facts (or what I think is enough facts to draw a conclusion from). It's like reading the fine print before signing a contract. (Another reason why I hate clouding of consciousness). I actually hate reading books and I don't read them. They're so long. The internet is bite sized, thank god! Maybe this whole subject is why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Title View Post
    I'm not familiar with that theory, but definitely interested in hearing it.

    So basically, standard function orders are like this:

    Fe or Te

    Si or Ni

    Fi or Te

    Se or Ne


    Let's say hypothetically, if you are Ne dom, I doubt Se is your very last used function. Se is probably a close second to your primary function (in developed users) or just behind the secondary... maybe even the tertiary, under certain conditions. The two theoretical orders would be like this, only spliced together in some fashion:

    Ne/Ni/Ti/Te/Fe/Fi/Si/Se

    and

    Ne/Se/Ti/Fi/Fe/Te/Si/Ni




    Reevaluating.... I'm thinking Te is in your upper stacking over Fe; you likely simply understand the value in other's subjective perceptions, giving those test results. I'm now considering XXTJ.


    I really don't know, lol. Good luck.

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