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    Default Yet another person who cannot decide between INFP and INFJ.

    Basically, I feel like I use Fi, Fe, Ni and Ne more than anything else. Whether this is actually possible is up for debate; maybe I'm confusing Fi and Ni together, or even Ne and Ni. Anyway, I think I'm just going to go down a list and see what everyone thinks.

    -I am future-oriented. I scan for possible things that can go wrong, and I want to either reconcile with or fix them before they actually happen, if at all. I get really paranoid about bad things that have even a slight chance of occurring.

    -I HATE being caught off guard by a problem that I didn't see coming. When I'm surprised like that, I usually take it very badly (example: I made a U-turn a few months ago and didn't properly judge the distance between the wheel and the curb. Went over the curb, got stuck, started to cry in panic. My boyfriend had to tell me to calm the hell down as he immediately thought of a solution to the problem). So, I'm not a TACTICAL thinker at all. I always need time to think about how to approach a problem, and cannot handle making split-second decisions.

    -I'm extremely aware of myself and situations around me, though not so much the physical details.

    -I absolutely need security in my relationships with utter confidence that the other person isn't going anywhere. I need the other person to say what they mean and mean what they say. I can't handle wishy-washy behavior.

    -I'm not really afraid of being open with others and sharing myself (however, I will take care to not offend the other person or start an argument).

    -I sort of alter my behavior depending on the person I'm talking to. If they're really quiet, I'll speak up more and try to connect with them, but if they're doing most of the talking, I'll listen to their every word. If someone is passive, I become more aggressive, and if they're aggressive, I'll become more passive. However, if I don't really like the person or don't FEEL like being sociable, I'll slowly withdraw.

    -I am a very big-picture person who doesn't focus too much on the tiny details. I can easily see symbolic and moral meaning behind seemingly trivial occurrences and people's actions.

    -I'm highly patient with others, but inwardly critical and judging of their goodness and intentions.

    -I'm terrible about procrastinating and struggle with being proactive. I'll get things done in the end most of the time, but I only do it if I feel I absolutely have to. If I have the option to not work without (as I perceive to be) major consequences, I won't do it.

    -My judgments and opinions will usually start OUT rigid, and then become slightly more flexible as I consider new viewpoints/input.

    -I am a much more serious person inside than lighthearted.

    -I can be very indecisive at times (unless it involves my deepest values, which I am almost always decisive about).

    -I'm decent at reading other people. Not a psychic or anything, but decent.

    -I almost always take others seriously unless it's very clear that it's just a joke.

    -I can analyze supposed "paradoxes" in a situation or line of logic, and rationalize them so that they make sense when put together.

    -When I'm in distress, I need to talk it out with someone I love. I don't like to bottle up my feelings.

    -It's hard for me to just keep a blank, straight face. My facial expressions are usually based upon my emotions and it's not so difficult to tell what I'm feeling by looking at me.

    -Regarding social norms... On one hand, I think that they CAN be too rigid and confining at times. But for the most part, I DO feel that they are necessary to conform to in order to get ahead in the world, and I find that I inwardly judge people who completely ignore them. I actually have a great recent example: My ENFP friend, very strong in her Fi, got upset at the idea that I would expect her to wear a dress to my wedding. She's hugely tomboyish, hates fashion and can't handle not staying "true" to herself in every way. I tried to tell her that wearing casual stuff to a formal wedding is disrespectful, but she wouldn't have any of it and it just made me extremely angry.

    -I am not really opposed to labels and categories. While I think that everyone is indeed their own unique person, I also think all people have similarities in the mind that can be analyzed. While I'm skeptical of the idea that every person fits into one of the 16 types, I do admire the concept of the functions.

    -Sometimes, out of pessimism, I won't do something again if it didn't work out in the past.

    -When I feel like I KNOW something, I build upon that conclusion with further evidence I find. But if I DON'T know something, I'm very indecisive about it and constantly need new input and research to better understand it (and may change my mind many times).

    -I really hate arguing, even if I'm winning. It's just a very draining activity for me and I can never do it for long.

    -Rather than facing conflict outright, I try to think of ways to circumvent it.

    -Physical sensations can be overwhelming for me.

    -I'm very in touch with my feelings, and if what is happening conflicts with my values. I would say I'm more self-centered than people-centered; however, I'm still in touch with what others need.

    -I may bend my rules for someone that I really love.

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    You sound very INFJ to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catharsia View Post
    Basically, I feel like I use Fi, Fe, Ni and Ne more than anything else. Whether this is actually possible is up for debate; maybe I'm confusing Fi and Ni together, or even Ne and Ni. Anyway, I think I'm just going to go down a list and see what everyone thinks.

    -I am future-oriented. I scan for possible things that can go wrong, and I want to either reconcile with or fix them before they actually happen, if at all. I get really paranoid about bad things that have even a slight chance of occurring.

    -I HATE being caught off guard by a problem that I didn't see coming. When I'm surprised like that, I usually take it very badly (example: I made a U-turn a few months ago and didn't properly judge the distance between the wheel and the curb. Went over the curb, got stuck, started to cry in panic. My boyfriend had to tell me to calm the hell down as he immediately thought of a solution to the problem). So, I'm not a TACTICAL thinker at all. I always need time to think about how to approach a problem, and cannot handle making split-second decisions.

    -I'm extremely aware of myself and situations around me, though not so much the physical details.

    -I absolutely need security in my relationships with utter confidence that the other person isn't going anywhere. I need the other person to say what they mean and mean what they say. I can't handle wishy-washy behavior.

    -I'm not really afraid of being open with others and sharing myself (however, I will take care to not offend the other person or start an argument).

    -I sort of alter my behavior depending on the person I'm talking to. If they're really quiet, I'll speak up more and try to connect with them, but if they're doing most of the talking, I'll listen to their every word. If someone is passive, I become more aggressive, and if they're aggressive, I'll become more passive. However, if I don't really like the person or don't FEEL like being sociable, I'll slowly withdraw.

    -I am a very big-picture person who doesn't focus too much on the tiny details. I can easily see symbolic and moral meaning behind seemingly trivial occurrences and people's actions.

    -I'm highly patient with others, but inwardly critical and judging of their goodness and intentions.

    -I'm terrible about procrastinating and struggle with being proactive. I'll get things done in the end most of the time, but I only do it if I feel I absolutely have to. If I have the option to not work without (as I perceive to be) major consequences, I won't do it.

    -My judgments and opinions will usually start OUT rigid, and then become slightly more flexible as I consider new viewpoints/input.

    -I am a much more serious person inside than lighthearted.

    -I can be very indecisive at times (unless it involves my deepest values, which I am almost always decisive about).

    -I'm decent at reading other people. Not a psychic or anything, but decent.

    -I almost always take others seriously unless it's very clear that it's just a joke.

    -I can analyze supposed "paradoxes" in a situation or line of logic, and rationalize them so that they make sense when put together.

    -When I'm in distress, I need to talk it out with someone I love. I don't like to bottle up my feelings.

    -It's hard for me to just keep a blank, straight face. My facial expressions are usually based upon my emotions and it's not so difficult to tell what I'm feeling by looking at me.

    -Regarding social norms... On one hand, I think that they CAN be too rigid and confining at times. But for the most part, I DO feel that they are necessary to conform to in order to get ahead in the world, and I find that I inwardly judge people who completely ignore them. I actually have a great recent example: My ENFP friend, very strong in her Fi, got upset at the idea that I would expect her to wear a dress to my wedding. She's hugely tomboyish, hates fashion and can't handle not staying "true" to herself in every way. I tried to tell her that wearing casual stuff to a formal wedding is disrespectful, but she wouldn't have any of it and it just made me extremely angry.

    -I am not really opposed to labels and categories. While I think that everyone is indeed their own unique person, I also think all people have similarities in the mind that can be analyzed. While I'm skeptical of the idea that every person fits into one of the 16 types, I do admire the concept of the functions.

    -Sometimes, out of pessimism, I won't do something again if it didn't work out in the past.

    -When I feel like I KNOW something, I build upon that conclusion with further evidence I find. But if I DON'T know something, I'm very indecisive about it and constantly need new input and research to better understand it (and may change my mind many times).

    -I really hate arguing, even if I'm winning. It's just a very draining activity for me and I can never do it for long.

    -Rather than facing conflict outright, I try to think of ways to circumvent it.

    -Physical sensations can be overwhelming for me.

    -I'm very in touch with my feelings, and if what is happening conflicts with my values. I would say I'm more self-centered than people-centered; however, I'm still in touch with what others need.

    -I may bend my rules for someone that I really love.
    There is a big difference on the inside between both. And certain quirks could just be quirks and not related to your personality type at all. We all get confused and make mistakes sometimes, like the one you did around the curb.

    I think you use Ni like an INFJ. Building upon a conclusion in the way you described, is more of an INFJ thing and I think mot of the quirks you described showed how you were in touch with more the commune of the group, which is more of an INFJ thing. But again, really these are quirks and of you base information like this as your data i don't think it will get you far in finding ur mbti type .

    As an INFP I can vividly draw back detailed memories from the past to back up, why I will not succeed in doing something now. And I'm frequently stuck in these states of mind, despite this Ne insurgence going 'oh what if you try this or this or this or this!'.

    And I don't usually clash with another person for their Fi, Fi is lifeblood for us infps. And I would most likely clash with an enfps ne-te rationalization.

    So, do you make judgments about the external world by feeling in a positive light that you could maybe change later or do you seek to validate your world in a more serious tone, that is more stable and valid?
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    I'm a INFP - The sociopath

    I think I'm either a 4w5, 4w3, 6w5 or 9w1. Most possibly 4w5.

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    @Catharsia - does it have to be one of them two types? I mean...how sure are you?

    I sort of alter my behavior depending on the person I'm talking to. If they're really quiet, I'll speak up more and try to connect with them, but if they're doing most of the talking, I'll listen to their every word. If someone is passive, I become more aggressive, and if they're aggressive, I'll become more passive. However, if I don't really like the person or don't FEEL like being sociable, I'll slowly withdraw.
    I think this is Fe trait.

    It's hard for me to just keep a blank, straight face. My facial expressions are usually based upon my emotions and it's not so difficult to tell what I'm feeling by looking at me.
    Expressive in facial expression is also sound of Fe. In a way of trying to describe what are you telling.

    I'm extremely aware of myself and situations around me, though not so much the physical details.
    Not using Sx functions so often or well is sign of being more skillful on Nx functions probably.

    All in all...you seem like you use Fe over Fi.
    But im having hard time detecting which perceiving functions are using.
    Have you read threads Acerbusvenator posted to you and took your pic on which functions you are more prone to use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peguy View Post
    You sound very INFJ to me.
    I second this notion. You outsource your emotions, and they are dependent on others (Fe) whereas if you were an Fi dom like myself, you'd have an inner-flame that keeps you warm and anytime shit hit the fan, you'd retreat to it and adjust.

    I'm guessing you need to detach from situations in order to cope?
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    Isn't "retreat to it and adjust" detaching in order to cope?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AphroditeGoneAwry View Post
    Isn't "retreat to it and adjust" detaching in order to cope?
    Fe needs to leave away from the situation/person, and comes back when it cools down.
    Fi digs into inner resources and deals with the situation, but leaves when either it's done or when inner resources are depleted.
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    So one is an external detachment and one is an internal detachment.
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    If I had to guess to save my life, I'd say INFJ

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