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    Default Me taking a test and my responses to the questions.

    Another greenfairy type thread, yay! Well, a few people suggested this idea, and I think it's a good one. So here goes.

    (From this link: http://similarminds.com/cgi-bin/newmb.pl )

    1. I favor the surreal.
    I dunno. When and with reference to what? (This is going to be my response to a lot of things.) Um...I guess I like realistic things better. So...somewhat inaccurate.
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    2. I tend to be more comfortable with the known than the unknown.
    I think I'm equally comfortable with both, except that things unknown make me want to know them, at least with a general idea. So...in the middle.
    3

    3. I base my goals in life on inspiration, rather than logic.
    Hm...probably. I don't know what goals based on logic would look like- maybe purely practical ones? But most people will do things they are inspired by which are also practical, if they can. I guess I do what I enjoy, what is in line with using my talents, and then use practical logic to make my plans feasible. But I'm not extreme, so I'll have to say somewhat accurate.
    4

    4. I am extremely interested in abstract ideas.
    Yes!
    5

    5. I tend to trust the mind more than the heart.
    Well, the heart knows what is best for the spirit, so it knows what is ultimately best for a person in general if someone can listen to it accurately. However, I have not reached that point, and I need my mind as a reality check- so yes. They have to work together usually, and make sensible decisions.
    4

    6. I tend to be organized.
    Yes. But I'm not perfect at time management, so not 5.
    4

    7. I focus far more on possibilities than present reality.
    Probably. I daydream a lot about how things could be. Far more on possibilities? As opposed to just more...I'd say accurate- no, I'll go with extremely accurate.
    5

    8. I require lots of time alone to recharge.
    Not a lot. I have a lot of alone time, and I use it to recharge...and I like it; but I also like it when I have a lot of time with other people.
    So...somewhat inaccurate. No, in the middle. Who knows? I'd have to be in a situation where I had very little alone time and see if I liked it. I've spent weekends at festivals where I could spend my time any way I wanted, and I chose to be with other people nearly all the time. But that was just weekends.
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    9. I tend to be more realistic than conceptual.
    Conceptual meaning having to do with concepts- and this is opposed to being realistic? Doesn't really make sense, but it must be an S vs. N thing. Probably conceptual because in my philosophy classes I'm always throwing out crazy "what if" questions; but not extreme, because I always think about whether it all really matters (and conclude that it usually ultimately doesn't). So somewhat N...that would be...
    2

    10. I frequently come up with ideas/solutions out of nowhere.
    Oh yeah. All the time. I'm totally an idea person. I have like a million.
    5

    11. I often start/do things at the last minute.
    I used to, but I never really liked this about myself. So not anymore. Now I rarely do.
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    12. I tend to make decisions based on logic and facts.
    What decisions are we talking about here? That's always the question. What I'm going to do with my life? What I'm going to have for supper? What movie I want to see? Whether I'm going to spend money on something? Whether I'm going to get up at 8 tomorrow and get to school 2 hours early as usual?

    What I'm going to do with my life: both logic and feelings. Supper: what I want as long as it's healthy and inexpensive. Movie: logic and facts don't really have to do with it, so whatever I think I'll enjoy. Spending money: I try to avoid it, but I like buying things when I let myself. Getting up tomorrow: yes. I'm serious about school. So sounds like I'm more sensible than anything else, just based on these questions. I guess somewhat accurate.
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    Or are we talking about making decisions as in coming to conclusions? I use intuition a lot, and if I have a feeling about something it usually feels like intuition even if it has an emotional component- if I do have a strong emotion about something, I try to avoid making decisions just based on this. So still 4.

    13. I tend to value competence more than compassion.
    Another loaded question, which is therefore confusing and difficult to know the correct answer to. But my instinct says yes. This is one question I changed my answer to when I was deciding I was not in fact INFP. Of course I value compassion- who doesn't; but compassion has so many subjective interpretations, so people will probably end up fighting over what is compassionate and what isn't. Altogether easier to just prioritize competence, and make sure the people in charge have some sense of compassion to go along with it. And people can take advantage of compassionate people, and I really don't like enabling people to be irresponsible. I feel like most people deserve the benefit of the doubt sometimes, but ultimately they just have to deal with the consequences of their actions.
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    14. I rely mostly on my feelings to guide my decision-making.
    So the parallel to 12. I guess not. Even though I take them into consideration, I wouldn't say I rely mostly on them.
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    15. I am extremely sentimental.
    Looking "sentimental" up in the online dictionary...
    1
    a : marked or governed by feeling, sensibility, or emotional idealism
    b : resulting from feeling rather than reason or thought <a sentimental attachment> <a sentimental favorite>
    2
    : having an excess of sentiment or sensibility

    I guess I'm sentimental. But not extremely. So...in the middle?
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    16. I am very social.
    I'm social, but not very. If I was less busy and had people to socialize with who were less busy, I'd be more social.
    I guess in the middle. But the question says "very," so in the middle would be more than in the middle. So,
    2

    17. I prefer to keep my spaces clean.
    Yes. I'm not extreme about it, so:
    4

    18. I am weird.
    Probably. I know this is at least somewhat accurate. So I guess I have to choose:
    4

    19. An argument with feeling has more effect on me than a cold rational one.
    Hard to say. Probably not. Even if I'm persuaded by an emotional argument, I want to have facts and reasoning to back it up. I prefer cold rational arguments. So I'm going to say:
    2
    I think intuition takes it all into account and balances the two.

    20. I prefer to keep things open and flexible.
    Pretty much.
    4

    21. I frequently do things without a specific schedule or plan.
    I always have a tentative plan or schedule, and then I modify it according to whether I have time to follow the inspirations of the moment. And sometimes I lose track of time. But I feel a bit uncomfortable being totally spontaneous and impulsive without it modifying a plan I already have in place. So I'm going to say in the middle.
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    22. I am more of a planner than an improviser.
    Probably. I have a lot of detailed plans. Often the reality doesn't look exactly like my plans, but I have fun making them, and they always inspire my actions.
    4

    23. I tend to analyze things objectively and critically.
    Yes. Even if I have thoughts which are emotionally or subjectively based, I always examine them critically and objectively. I examine everything this way, especially things I shouldn't.
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    24. I talk a lot.
    I talk to myself a lot- does that count? Seriously, I wonder. Anyway, I don't think that's what they mean. In real life, I talk an average amount. Even though I'm really quiet. So in the middle I guess.
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    25. I am a private person.
    Nope. I'm the opposite of private. I'll tell you more than you want to know.
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    26. I value compassion over analytical reasoning.
    So almost the opposite of 13. But I love analytical reasoning so much! I like compassion; I have compassion and love for every cute little living thing- but not more than analysis. It's a close call. I'm going to have to say in the middle.
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    27. I value solitude immensely.
    I would say this is inaccurate, but is it very inaccurate? No. I like some solitude, but not too much.
    2

    28. I feel very comfortable around people.
    No, I'm always I bit nervous, no matter how happy I am. Unless I know the person really really well.
    2

    29. I think rules and regulations are necessary.
    Generally. An excess is unnecessary and troublesome, and an insufficient amount leads to chaos. But what if you could get around rules and regulations? What if people just naturally did what they were supposed to do? I know it happens sometimes in some situations, with people being in the right relationship to one another and cooperating and all that. Still, that's not the norm in our current world. So,
    4

    30. I tend to be spontaneous.
    I guess kinda, maybe. I don't know. I like being encouraged to be spontaneous by other people.
    3

    31. I greatly appreciate strangeness.
    Depends. I don't like ugly unpleasant strangeness, like that one movie my ISFP guy made me watch. I don't like feeling like I'm in a bad dream. But nice feeling strangeness, or just unusual and interesting things, I like.
    3

    32. I am very introspective.
    Probably to much.
    5

    33. I am extremely passionate.
    I'd say that's accurate. It makes me feel alive. But I don't get swept away by it really. So I'm going to say
    4

    34. I tend to be more down-to-earth than head-in-the-clouds.
    No. My head isn't so far in the clouds that I don't get things taken care of, so
    2

    35. I am extremely outgoing.
    Not extremely. I can be outgoing, but it's probably not a marked feature of my personality. I should say inaccurate.
    2

    36. I am far more casual than orderly.
    Not far more. I have order to my actions. I like being casual though. As for just casual vs. orderly, I'd have to say in the middle I guess.

    37. I tend to be more practical than abstract.
    Both these words can have so many meanings. But since I'm making all these questions more abstract than they need to be, I think I should say no.
    2

    38. I tend to pay more attention to my thoughts than my feelings.
    This is true. I think a lot, and I get lost in thought and carried away with it. Not so much with feelings. I don't get lost in and carried away with feelings. If I get outraged about something, and I have stuff I want to say about it, then I translate those feelings into (mostly illogical) thoughts and get carried away with them; but that is usually not a good idea, and I've found I should say things when I'm not annoyed. Doesn't mean I always follow my advice. Still, the answer to the question is yes, since this happens less often than getting really into pure thoughts.
    4

    39. I find it difficult to approach others.
    Sometimes, kind of. I feel like I have to have a plan of action for it, so it doesn't go embarrassingly wrong. If I already know the person, no.
    4

    40. I tend to prefer actual examples to theoretical ones.
    Mostly. I like both, but I have to have at least one actual example to really make sense of things. The important thing is that the examples clearly illustrate the concepts, whether they're theoretical or not. I guess in the middle.
    3

    41. I tend to value fairness more than feelings.
    This must be an Fe vs. Fi question! And yes. Why would you be dissatisfied with something fair? If I am, I just have to deal with it. And I expect the same of other people. Of course, people feel what they feel, and having expectations of people doesn't make them operate the way you want. But the question asked what I value; and I think things tend to work better this way.
    4 or 5?
    I guess 4. I'm accommodating to people who value feelings.

    42. I tend to prefer the specific to the general.
    No, I love generalities and generalizations. But I also love specifics when they are used for clarity and precision. I'm just going to say
    2

    43. I make friends easily.
    I make friendly acquaintances easily. Good friends, no. Hm...3 or 2? I'm not bad at it anymore. I think
    3

    44. I am somewhat disorganized.
    Aha, the parallel to 6! No. Probably.
    2

    45. I am very open.
    I guess. I like to think I am. I don't know if that's how others see me.
    3

    46. I tend to make specific plans before taking action.
    Parallel to a couple of other questions. I don't know. Maybe. If I don't know I guess I have to say in the middle.
    3

    47. I avoid unnecessary interaction.
    No, I'm usually pleasantly surprised by unnecessary interaction. I wouldn't like to have a job where I interacted with strangers for extended periods of time all day, because it tends to make me nervous, and I think and daydream a lot. That would kind of cramp my style. So I guess I'm not an extrovert. But back to the question...I guess I do somewhat, but in other ways I don't. So I am forced to choose
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    48. I prefer structured environments to unstructured ones.
    Well, I guess I feel more relaxed at home that at school or work; but I get more done at school or work usually. Hm...I guess unstructured ones, because I can create structure. (But then is it really unstructured?) I'd get bored and feel lost with no structure ever. I have to have stuff to do and some kind of plan, or at least idea. Oh, I'm just going to choose in the middle again.

    Last question!

    And the result is...



    Introverted (I) 55.56% Extroverted (E) 44.44%
    Intuitive (N) 65.63% Sensing (S) 34.38%
    Thinking (T) 59.46% Feeling (F) 40.54%
    Judging (J) 57.58% Perceiving (P) 42.42%

    Your type is: INTJ

    INTJ - "Mastermind". Introverted intellectual with a preference for finding certainty. A builder of systems and the applier of theoretical models. 2.1% of total population.

    I'm really sure I use Fe though; maybe I flip flop between INFJ and INTJ. Not too strong on any letter other than N, which is what I already knew. So INXJ/XNTP.

    Argue with the test, bitches.

    Thoughts?

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    What, no comments? Does that mean no one is upset? Everyone agrees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    What, no comments? Does that mean no one is upset? Everyone agrees?
    I don't agree. I feel like the way you answered ALL of the questions was very perciever-like. After the first five I had to get some food lol...because I knew I would be reading everyone. If I were taking the test I would just have answered them and maybe for like 2-4 put explainations...maybe it's just me though...When I take tests I just make a decisions...I need closure...I don't pull it apart like Ti does and I don't consider all the possibilities like a perciever would. lol I still think you're an INFP. But your thinker side is definately more developed than most feelers. Again only imo. Sometimes I can't tell if it's INTP or INFP...but then again I don't see many INTP's disclosing much, you seem very open to me...<--which is kool btw also I don't see many INTP's saying "I'd get bored and feel lost with no structure ever." At least not the ones I know. You seem to put higher answers for the "organizational questions" <---that could be Te which an INFP has...but that's just me lol...I have still never met an INTJ ...so I could be way off...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urarienev View Post
    I don't agree. I feel like the way you answered ALL of the questions was very perciever-like. After the first five I had to get some food lol...because I knew I would be reading everyone. If I were taking the test I would just have answered them and maybe for like 2-4 put explainations...maybe it's just me though...When I take tests I just make a decisions...I need closure...I don't pull it apart like Ti does and I don't consider all the possibilities like a perciever would. lol I still think you're an INFP. But your thinker side is definately more developed than most feelers. Again only imo. Sometimes I can't tell if it's INTP or INFP...but then again I don't see many INTP's disclosing much, you seem very open to me...<--which is kool btw also I don't see many INTP's saying "I'd get bored and feel lost with no structure ever." At least not the ones I know. You seem to put higher answers for the "organizational questions" <---that could be Te which an INFP has...but that's just me lol...I have still never met an INTJ ...so I could be way off...
    Cool. Good analysis. I thought it seemed more Ne/perceiver-like as well, but then I'm in the middle. Fair enough reasoning for INFP. I just don't think I'm Fi dom is all- everything I've read about it and from IXFP's seems to be less like me than Fe. Particularly the parts about getting swept away with emotion- that I associate with Fi (and it's not something that happens to me). So you think INTP's are less self disclosing? That fits with my observations on here, but then it seems to be the opposite in real life. I think INTP's are about the same online as in real life, and INFP's are more cautious in real life and see the online format as being more confidential (whereas I'll just talk about myself to anyone who's interested regardless). As for INTJ's, I think they are more private.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Cool. Good analysis. I thought it seemed more Ne/perceiver-like as well, but then I'm in the middle. Fair enough reasoning for INFP. I just don't think I'm Fi dom is all- everything I've read about it and from IXFP's seems to be less like me than Fe. Particularly the parts about getting swept away with emotion- that I associate with Fi (and it's not something that happens to me). So you think INTP's are less self disclosing? That fits with my observations on here, but then it seems to be the opposite in real life. I think INTP's are about the same online as in real life, and INFP's are more cautious in real life and see the online format as being more confidential (whereas I'll just talk about myself to anyone who's interested regardless). As for INTJ's, I think they are more private.
    I see what you me about Fi...I'm not sure how you are irl with your emotions. I feel like I relate to Fi users...Like they're the only one's I can feel the emotional vibes off of if you know what I mean. So I wouldn't be able to determine that unless irl really. Also my INFP friend just did this the other day: I told her I would do a huge favor for her and she was EXTREMELY happy. To me I could tell that she was so happy because to me it is expressed by holding in tears of being overwhelmed and hugging someone. <--Hugging is a very NF thing to do in general I find. They love hugs...hugs make things ok at the end of the day. But I had a connection with her because she was introverting her emotions. Not because she was smiling...so what i'm getting to is...do you feel like you express yourself as easily as others(not to be mistaken for disclosing info) or does it feel better to just do your own thing when you're feeling a strong emotion... A lot of isfp's I know don't think that they us Fi primarily becuase they do it so naturally...it can be difficult to detect...

    Hmm...you do have a point about INTP's or INFP's irl and on here...there may be a difference...INTJ's do seem very withdrawn, maybe only having a small circle that they really open up to...

    Can you give examples of when you use Fe?
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    Though the test gave you INTJ and I have even suggested it before it rests on very shaky foundations as none of your letters tested that strongly and you come across as having very strong Fi so I would guess you are either INTJ or INFP depending on what type of intuition you use. INTJs are described as tenacious visionaries oriented towards action while INFPs are described as idiosyncratic dreamers with strong imaginations. Which do you believe yourself to relate more towards? Anyway I just asked people on Ventrilo what type they think you are and they all answered INFP though one person said INTP and one said EFP so apparently nobody except for me seems to even think of INTJ as an option but ultimately you should seek for the answer within.


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    wow...you make a very good point...if she tested intj...then she tested Fi...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    Though the test gave you INTJ and I have even suggested it before it rests on very shaky foundations as none of your letters tested that strongly and you come across as having very strong Fi so I would guess you are either INTJ or INFP depending on what type of intuition you use.
    Ok, apparently I strike people as Fi. But of the 4 Fi people I know, I am nothing like them feeling-wise. Really. Can I ask where you see Fi in my answers to these questions? I don't see it at all, except maybe the one about basing my goals on inspiration. I'm trying to provide actual "evidence" to base things on here, rather than my username and avatar and the fact that I get frustrated with this whole thing (seems rather self validating).
    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    INTJs are described as tenacious visionaries oriented towards action while INFPs are described as idiosyncratic dreamers with strong imaginations. Which do you believe yourself to relate more towards?
    I identify equally with both.
    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    Anyway I just asked people on Ventrilo what type they think you are and they all answered INFP though one person said INTP and one said EFP so apparently nobody except for me seems to even think of INTJ as an option but ultimately you should seek for the answer within.
    Well then I guess they're not very experienced typologists, because I've tested this way several times, including the first time when I took the official MBTI test. I'm not saying I think this is my definite type, but it certainly seems like I resemble it. Out of curiosity, how many are "they"? Yes, I know I have to find the answer within. I'm content with INXJ/XNTP, but the point is I can't seem to persuade "the public" that I know what I'm talking about, and unfortunately this fact bothers me. I sometimes feel like people just aren't listening to what I say and don't care what I think, and so it's kind of pointless me even being on here if I can't contribute to a type forum by using typology. <--Fe btw, being concerned about relating to a group.

    Oh well. Thanks for your input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urarienev View Post
    wow...you make a very good point...if she tested intj...then she tested Fi...lol
    Yeah, but INTJ's have Fi as only a tertiary function, so they don't really look like INFP's because INFP's are Fi dominant. And if I'm INFJ with T tendencies, then I could pretty easily switch by Ni bringing up Fi from the unconscious. Conversely, if I'm INTJ with P tendencies, it would do the same with Fe- and would fit with INFJ. The point is that if I'm INXX, I could easily switch between the 4 types and have a strong preference for Fe at the same time- being the 2 Fe using types most often, then INTJ, then INFP. You see?

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