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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    ...Come on, what do you guys think? 64what? What is that last number?! TELL ME!
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    I think you can tell a 9 fix apart from an 8 fix by how they deal with conflict. When I get into an argument with someone, I'll try to convince them with logic (as a head type), but if that doesn't work, I'll give up trying to convince them and try to end the argument. This person has made me VERY angry, but (as someone with a 9 fix) I still want to end the conversation peacefully. I'll do this by taking a tolerant stance, which may sound something like this: "Maybe it works for you, but not for me. It's just not my style." I'm not rejecting your idea, but I don't agree with it either. An 8-fixer would not really care about ending an argument peacefully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silveresque View Post
    I think you can tell a 9 fix apart from an 8 fix by how they deal with conflict. When I get into an argument with someone, I'll try to convince them with logic (as a head type), but if that doesn't work, I'll give up trying to convince them and try to end the argument. This person has made me VERY angry, but (as someone with a 9 fix) I still want to end the conversation peacefully. I'll do this by taking a tolerant stance, which may sound something like this: "Maybe it works for you, but not for me. It's just not my style." I'm not rejecting your idea, but I don't agree with it either. An 8-fixer would not really care about ending an argument peacefully.
    Situations like this are why I can't decide in the first place. I don't really care about ending the argument peacefully, but I have nothing against it either. As some of you may have seen, sometimes I will try to drop an argument quickly, because I just don't think it's worth it, other times I'll dig my heels in and defend my stance long past the point where other would have given up.
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    How do people react to you, the presence you exude? Do they think you're intimidating, a ninja, etc etc?? These questions are stupid, but bear with me. It's my opinion that it will manifest itself a certain way. For example, type 8 is usually very expansive, dominating, and comfortable in their environment. The timeless article on personalitycafe site associates type 8 with the Freudian concept of the id. From wikipedia:
    The id is unconscious by definition:
    "It is the dark, inaccessible part of our personality, what little we know of it we have learned from our study of the Dreamwork and of the construction of neurotic symptoms, and most of that is of a negative character and can be described only as a contrast to the ego. We approach the id with analogies: we call it a chaos, a cauldron full of seething excitations.... It is filled with energy reaching it from the instincts, but it has no organization, produces no collective will, but only a striving to bring about the satisfaction of the instinctual needs subject to the observance of the pleasure principle."
    You can see why type 8 is associated with the id and the passion of lust, therefore you can probably imagine how that manifests itself in the phycial form - an assertive and expansive energy. Of course it's usually not as dramatic as the descriptions make it out to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    Situations like this are why I can't decide in the first place. I don't really care about ending the argument peacefully, but I have nothing against it either. As some of you may have seen, sometimes I will try to drop an argument quickly, because I just don't think it's worth it, other times I'll dig my heels in and defend my stance long past the point where other would have given up.
    You enjoy the conflict or something? Or is simply cuz they stepped on your ideals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    How do people react to you, the presence you exude? Do they think you're intimidating, a ninja, etc etc?
    I honestly don't know how to answer this one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You enjoy the conflict or something? Or is simply cuz they stepped on your ideals?
    It's a little bit of both. If you step on an ideal, that's a guaranteed way to make me argue, or at least get pissed off at you. But sometimes, I enjoy arguing simply for the sake of arguing. Usually when I have personal experience or above general knowledge on a topic. (Plus, I sometimes get a little amusement out of picking apart other people's arguments.)
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    What about anger? How do you express it? And how do you feel afterwards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    What about anger? How do you express it? And how do you feel afterwards?
    ...Express it? I try not to... Mainly because it's difficult for me to control myself when I let my anger go.
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    If I was a betting man. I'd bet on 1-gut fix for you.

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    Great, now I'm even more confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrinth View Post
    ...Express it? I try not to... Mainly because it's difficult for me to control myself when I let my anger go.
    If you were an 8 gut fix, then you would be a triple reactive (4-6-8), which would push you more along the counterphobic description of a 6. Do you consider yourself more phobic or counterphobic?

    My opinion (take it for what it's worth), you are either a 1 or 9 gut-fix. I lean towards 1 because you are less denying of anger and your relation to conflict doesn't sound very 9-ish. Also, what I quoted from you sounds like how 1s deal with anger. Sounds to me like you view it as bad - something that conflicts with your inner ideal, so you try to control it. That's why e1s typically express themselves in the form of impatience, frustration, or some form of visible annoyance.

    There's only so much I can read into from what you told me dude. I probably totally off. If this didn't help, then sorry. I tried.

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