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What's my JCF type?

  • INFP

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • ENFP

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • ISTJ

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • ESTJ

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • ISFP

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • ESFP

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • INTJ

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • ENTJ

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • ISTP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • ESTP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • INFJ

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • ENFJ

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • INTP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • ENTP

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • ISFJ

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • ESFJ

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    16

wolfy

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Fi-Ni fits his self-reporting and behavior better! But I'd allow INFP as well. The little "s" was my out.

Fair enough, you probably actually read and thought about things. Feels more infp to me. The small s was very clever.


I haven't seen you post a single analytical thing on the forum. It's all either introspection (IN) or fluff (FP).

But mostly you just don't vibe like an INTJ in any way.

I agree with this.
 

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Why 2 votes for ENTJ?
Just because he considered that a discussion about his mbti type was worth a thread in the main subforum ?
:burns:
 

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Where is your Ni in either this post or the one on personalitynation? Show it to us.

Right, I don't understand where the Ni comes from; I don't see it.

Therefore, INTJ doesn't make any sense to me. [Also, why multiple type-me threads at once? Not very efficient/purposeful]

NFP, or if you believe yourself to be a TJ, ISTJ like [MENTION=7330]onemoretime[/MENTION] states. His analysis is pretty interesting/compelling.
 

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um...I'm not sure why you made a separate thread for the same topic, but threads merged...
 
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Some . . . many don't consider me to be INTJ. I don't seem to fit the function mold according to others (whom think I am xxFP), others say that I don't have the INTJ vibe, etc. However, I have yet to see any argument strong enough to convince me otherwise. So I suppose I'll list my own reasons for why I considered INTJ in the first place.

I felt doubtful over past judgments concerning type; that perhaps I had been wrong and that I misinterpreted myself, or the information somewhere in the typing process. So I did some thinking upon the matter, or rather random bits of introspection over an extended period of time until I came upon an impression that I was in fact something different than what I had hitherto perceived.

So I started by narrowing down all the possible function that I felt were illustrative of my being. I immediately disregarded Fe/Ti types in favor of some sort of Te/Fi user. Any sort of moral or value that I possess is one strictly exclusive to me, plain and simple. I also appreciate certain authorities (NOT societal authorities) that can bring objective data and facts that are indisputable to opinion; case in point, judging the quality of a movie not so much by myself, but more so by what Rotten Tomatoes has to say about it.

So then the next step was deciding upon the S/N split, or Se/Ni vs. Si/Ne. However I could not fully relate to either completely, but over time I started to wonder if Ni made more sense, as I could see that my thought pattern might fit that function better. To gain better clarity, I submitting a long questionnaire, anonymously, on the website PersonalityNation. For reference sake, please read the entire thread here (note: not that long to read, it's only a couple pages):

http://www.personalitynation.com/observatory/6266-casual-typing.html

It was here that the idea of an INTJ in an Ni-Fi loop, or INTJ with weak Te started to make more sense. That any 'NFness' was nothing more than the duality of Ni and Fi being on par with each other. That all my weaknesses in life could be attributed to the combination of undeveloped Te (inability to get shit done or fully adhere to greater authorities) and inferior Se (unchecked hedonism, laziness, and a restrained hold on my more bloodthirsty and immediate desires).

Additionally, certain moral opinions that I held in the past I have come to look back on are ideas which I no longer hold value. I have learned to see a different side to things, although I suppose that while I don't believe some past morals, I do have new contemporary values.

In short that is why I considered myself to be INTJ. All counter-arguments are welcome.

counter argument: you aren't INTJ.
 

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Hmm this thread convinced me that IM an INTJ.

*Blows trumpet while riding unicycle*

"dum de dum!!"
 

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Hey, looks like you did get your replies after all. :)

For what it's worth, I'm not sure you were always this flowery in your prose... Did something change, or am I just misremembering?
 

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Where is your Ni in either this post or the one on personalitynation? Show it to us.
There should be real life examples of Ni explained in the questionnaire on the PN thread. Also, there have been instances where Sim mentioned (in other threads on that site) how Ni doms manipulate information to another in order to gain perspective on something, and not only do I relate to that, but I have done such things on occasion.
Your current persona seems rather forced like you are trying way too hard. It doesn't seem relaxed like when there is natural vibe. But in the end, it's your call... you don't need to convince us.
Does my persona come off that way? Hm, come to think of it, I think I might have the same problem concerning my persona in real life. Also, while I don't need others t convince me, I am far to insecure with myself to make such judgments alone for I may be wrong concerning objective data.

If you were able to immediately dismiss Fe/Ti in favor of Fi/Te, and have trouble distinguishing between perception styles, doesn't this suggest that Fi or Te are your secondary function, since you are consciously aware of this strong aspect of your personality? I think you have Te right in this circumstance, since objective facts and data lend credence to a person's authority (the auxiliary is the most authoritarian function, after all).

I would suggest that you are an ISTJ. I don't think you have dominant Ni, mostly on account of the doubts that you express in your second paragraph. The anxiety raised by the concern over the possibility of misinterpreted data sounds a lot like how inferior Ne manifests itself. That's also the case with the "random" nature of the introspection; you kept juggling possibilities until you had no solid grounding inside, and were instead left with a vague sense of not being who you are. That's what being caught in the inferior is like.

Your solution was to narrow down all those possibilities, using introverted judgment, and this caught your Fi. That's probably why others think you're an xxFP, if you judge via Fi regularly during times of stress and being overwhelmed by possibilities.

When trying to decide between Si/Ne and Ni/Se, you were unable to distinctly choose between possibilities, another aspect of inferior Ne at play. You then say that your consideration of Ni hinged on it fitting your thought patterns better. This, in and of itself, makes it fairly clear that Ni is not your dominant function, for if it were, you wouldn't be able to consider it in terms of observable thought patterns. Instead, it would be the observer. In this case, the observing "you" is matching descriptions to patterns. The thought patterns you could observe were likely that inferior Ne. You could square away with the search for unseen possibilities, but not with the extraversion. Ni was a better fit in that context, but it had everything to do with an interpretation of the observed, and not of the observer.

This works well enough to construct a persona, and theories about why that persona operates as it does. It gives you a set of known explanations to counter any doubts you might have about your adopted persona being your real self. It allows you to blame yourself for your insecurities and perceived failures in life, but compartmentalizes them to the point that they can exist without having to be observed in detail. However, you said it yourself earlier: if it were anyone else trying to convince you of this, you would want hard facts and indisputable data that would ground you in the basis of the argument in reality.

Your observer, I am guessing, continues to subtly seek out this conversation, understanding that this persona is a mask that keeps your true self hidden from the world. This mask deflects outside stimuli from disrupting the stability of your inner world, but it betrays you in the process. In fact, you do not need this mask, because the doubts and threatening possibilities cannot disrupt the peace and serenity of your inner sense of stability, if you permit yourself to trust in it. Your observer, that is, who you actually are, doesn't rely on authorities to determine truth, since he is capable of it himself if he has the facts and data. He doesn't have to worry about overlooking something, because he can always go and look again. He can confidently change his beliefs, because they are his beliefs, and he would only change them for a good reason.

ISTJ sounds right.

Wow. Just wow. That's an excellent amount of insight into this matter. I'm seriously considering ISTJ now (that, or at least any type that uses Si/Ne/Fi/Te).

Although you did lose me a bit concerning the whole 'persona' thing. Could you go into more detail there?

I sense Si somewhere about.

Wasn't sure what you meant, but after reading OMT's post, that actually makes sense.

- people in an Ni-Fi loop are highly avoidant, paranoid and liable to become obsessed with conspiracy theories. (@The Great One has a friend who is either an INTJ or ISFP in an Fi-Ni loop and I see none of the cognitive function related neurosis that he describes in you).

That is true, although I do tend to be paranoid in general. Granted that has to do more so with my own perceived insecurities.

- I see Ne all over your posts :newwink: (it's just there, and it's obvious to anyone who is also an Ne user)

But isn't it possible that such Ne would actually be the result of Ne inferior? Or at least Ne that isn't as developed as it should be but is played around with a lot?

- you are clearly more comfortable using Fi than Te. it's clear from your post that Te is the relief function for your Fi and not the other way around

That is another major consideration in the debate between INFP and ISTJ (henceforth I have narrowed down the 2 most likely types to be either these based on function usage).

- despite what you may think about yourself, from your videos and the few phone conversations we've had, you seem like a very friendly, sociable, likable person. you have an engaging quality to you that is very non-INTJ.

I'm not going to doubt that (being friendly, sociable, and likable), but I dislike the idea that JCF types must have certain external qualities exclusive towards them when the system aims more so an measuring how they perceive and judge data and ideas.

I think you are a healthy ENFP 6w7>1w9>4w3 Sp/So who is developing Te and doesn't fit the touchy-feely rainbows and unicorns, social butterfly stereotype of the ENFP.

Well maybe, but I'm still going to do more thinking and searching into the matter. Also, enneagram wise, I'm 6w7>1w2>4w3 sp/so ;)

Pardon my ignorance, but how are these different?

One is based off of cognitive functions, the other off of dichotomies. JCF =/= MBTI.

You could be an INTJ. Anime avatar, borderline aspie, ponce-y prose, and Ni-Fi hissy fits [WHY THE FUCK WAS MY THREAD MOVED!?!?!?!?!11?!?!!].

But I'd say IsFP.

I really wish people would stop bringing up that "WHY THE FUCK WAS MY THREAD MOVED?!" thread. It was the one time I ever threw a fit, I mean it's not like I'm like that all the time or anything.

Right, I don't understand where the Ni comes from; I don't see it.

Therefore, INTJ doesn't make any sense to me. [Also, why multiple type-me threads at once? Not very efficient/purposeful]

I made a new thread with the hope that it would garner more attention and feedback.

NFP, or if you believe yourself to be a TJ, ISTJ like [MENTION=7330]onemoretime[/MENTION] states. His analysis is pretty interesting/compelling.

Agreed.

counter argument: you aren't INTJ.

That's not a very convincing argument.

Hey, looks like you did get your replies after all. :)

Indeed :)

For what it's worth, I'm not sure you were always this flowery in your prose... Did something change, or am I just misremembering?

Nope, I've always possess a refined level of authenticity and elegance within all my writings and musings. ;)
 

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[MENTION=10919]Savage Idealist[/MENTION]
you are definitely not an Si dom, and Ne is NOT your last function, you use it so comfortably and unconsciously, I think it's your first function :newwink:
 

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you are definitely not an Si dom, and Ne is NOT your last function, you use it so comfortably and unconsciously, I think it's your first function :newwink:

What about onemoretime's theory for ISTJ?
 

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Wait a second, when you mention IN and FP, I presume that you must be talking about MBTI dichotomies? In that regard, there may be a bit of confusion here; I am trying to find my Jung Cognitive Function type. Dichotomy wise, I would consider myself a INFJ or INFP.

On second thought, I think a new thread is in order . . .

I don't think there is much difference at all between MBTI and Jungian Cognitive Functions. The MBTI system is based on those same 8 functions. If you read "Gifts Differing" carefully, you will see it in there. Also read some of Naomi Quenk's stuff. She's an MBTI practitioner. It was dumbed down for the masses, but that's what it's based on.

[MENTION=10919]Savage Idealist[/MENTION]
- people in an Ni-Fi loop are highly avoidant, paranoid and liable to become obsessed with conspiracy theories. (@The Great One has a friend who is either an INTJ or ISFP in an Fi-Ni loop and I see none of the cognitive function related neurosis that he describes in you).
- I see Ne all over your posts :newwink: (it's just there, and it's obvious to anyone who is also an Ne user)
- you are clearly more comfortable using Fi than Te. it's clear from your post that Te is the relief function for your Fi and not the other way around
- despite what you may think about yourself, from your videos and the few phone conversations we've had, you seem like a very friendly, sociable, likable person. you have an engaging quality to you that is very non-INTJ.

I think you are a healthy ENFP 6w7>1w9>4w3 Sp/So who is developing Te and doesn't fit the touchy-feely rainbows and unicorns, social butterfly stereotype of the ENFP.

That seems like a pretty sound analysis to me

Some . . . many don't consider me to be INTJ. I don't seem to fit the function mold according to others (whom think I am xxFP), others say that I don't have the INTJ vibe, etc. However, I have yet to see any argument strong enough to convince me otherwise. So I suppose I'll list my own reasons for why I considered INTJ in the first place.

I felt doubtful over past judgments concerning type; that perhaps I had been wrong and that I misinterpreted myself, or the information somewhere in the typing process. So I did some thinking upon the matter, or rather random bits of introspection over an extended period of time until I came upon an impression that I was in fact something different than what I had hitherto perceived.

So I started by narrowing down all the possible function that I felt were illustrative of my being. I immediately disregarded Fe/Ti types in favor of some sort of Te/Fi user. Any sort of moral or value that I possess is one strictly exclusive to me, plain and simple. I also appreciate certain authorities (NOT societal authorities) that can bring objective data and facts that are indisputable to opinion; case in point, judging the quality of a movie not so much by myself, but more so by what Rotten Tomatoes has to say about it.

So then the next step was deciding upon the S/N split, or Se/Ni vs. Si/Ne. However I could not fully relate to either completely, but over time I started to wonder if Ni made more sense, as I could see that my thought pattern might fit that function better. To gain better clarity, I submitting a long questionnaire, anonymously, on the website PersonalityNation. For reference sake, please read the entire thread here (note: not that long to read, it's only a couple pages):

http://www.personalitynation.com/observatory/6266-casual-typing.html

It was here that the idea of an INTJ in an Ni-Fi loop, or INTJ with weak Te started to make more sense. That any 'NFness' was nothing more than the duality of Ni and Fi being on par with each other. That all my weaknesses in life could be attributed to the combination of undeveloped Te (inability to get shit done or fully adhere to greater authorities) and inferior Se (unchecked hedonism, laziness, and a restrained hold on my more bloodthirsty and immediate desires).

Additionally, certain moral opinions that I held in the past I have come to look back on are ideas which I no longer hold value. I have learned to see a different side to things, although I suppose that while I don't believe some past morals, I do have new contemporary values.

In short that is why I considered myself to be INTJ. All counter-arguments are welcome.

There should be real life examples of Ni explained in the questionnaire on the PN thread. Also, there have been instances where Sim mentioned (in other threads on that site) how Ni doms manipulate information to another in order to gain perspective on something, and not only do I relate to that, but I have done such things on occasion.

Does my persona come off that way? Hm, come to think of it, I think I might have the same problem concerning my persona in real life. Also, while I don't need others t convince me, I am far to insecure with myself to make such judgments alone for I may be wrong concerning objective data.

Wow. Just wow. That's an excellent amount of insight into this matter. I'm seriously considering ISTJ now (that, or at least any type that uses Si/Ne/Fi/Te).

Although you did lose me a bit concerning the whole 'persona' thing. Could you go into more detail there?

Wasn't sure what you meant, but after reading OMT's post, that actually makes sense.

That is true, although I do tend to be paranoid in general. Granted that has to do more so with my own perceived insecurities.

But isn't it possible that such Ne would actually be the result of Ne inferior? Or at least Ne that isn't as developed as it should be but is played around with a lot?

That is another major consideration in the debate between INFP and ISTJ (henceforth I have narrowed down the 2 most likely types to be either these based on function usage).

I'm not going to doubt that (being friendly, sociable, and likable), but I dislike the idea that JCF types must have certain external qualities exclusive towards them when the system aims more so an measuring how they perceive and judge data and ideas.

Well maybe, but I'm still going to do more thinking and searching into the matter. Also, enneagram wise, I'm 6w7>1w2>4w3 sp/so ;)

One is based off of cognitive functions, the other off of dichotomies. JCF =/= MBTI.

I really wish people would stop bringing up that "WHY THE FUCK WAS MY THREAD MOVED?!" thread. It was the one time I ever threw a fit, I mean it's not like I'm like that all the time or anything.

I made a new thread with the hope that it would garner more attention and feedback.

Agreed.

That's not a very convincing argument.

Indeed :)

Nope, I've always possess a refined level of authenticity and elegance within all my writings and musings. ;)

Ne. Bouncy bouncy all over the place. Just like @Effboy says.

I take back what I said about ISFP. INFP or ENFP. Probably ENFP. Also, remember the impact of the Enneagram 6 on your behavior and not to confuse aspects of that with JCI.
 

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I don't think there is much difference at all between MBTI and Jungian Cognitive Functions. The MBTI system is based on those same 8 functions. If you read "Gifts Differing" carefully, you will see it in there. Also read some of Naomi Quenk's stuff. She's an MBTI practitioner. It was dumbed down for the masses, but that's what it's based on.
Exactly. That was the point of my question earlier. I'm no expert, but it seems the two methods should lead to the same answer.
 

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6-Fi-Si(loop?). 7-Ne type. INFP.

There are no 7 IxTJs.
 

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Wow. Just wow. That's an excellent amount of insight into this matter. I'm seriously considering ISTJ now (that, or at least any type that uses Si/Ne/Fi/Te).

Although you did lose me a bit concerning the whole 'persona' thing. Could you go into more detail there?

Thank you. :)

Regarding the whole persona thing, it goes back to how the dominant function supposedly operates, particularly when it is a perceiving function. It is such a seemingly natural preference, that you'd have no way of noticing your tendencies in that area. This is because your means of observation has a bias toward those tendencies being normative, and consequently takes these tendencies for granted.

The whole "trying too hard" observation comes from people noticing that it is a persona that you are wearing. You're trying to play a role, or fit within a particular archetype, as a means of assuaging those anxieties, since by doing so, you would have norms and expectations that you could judge the validity of those anxieties by. You need that internal checklist to serve as a steady foundation, and have heightened anxiety because things just aren't matching up. You try to keep fitting into a mask that just doesn't fit, instead of accepting what your body is telling you.
 

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no, what he thought was "inferior Ne" was you being a 6w7 :yes:

What about all the 'persona' and 'observer' stuff that he mentioned?

I don't think there is much difference at all between MBTI and Jungian Cognitive Functions. The MBTI system is based on those same 8 functions. If you read "Gifts Differing" carefully, you will see it in there. Also read some of Naomi Quenk's stuff. She's an MBTI practitioner. It was dumbed down for the masses, but that's what it's based on.

Uh, no. MBTI may be based off of Jung, but it is twisted into something so wholly different that the two can't really be compatible with each other; they are two very different systems. MBTI is based off of Jung's 4 dichotomies but it doesn't incorporate all of them into one state of mind (unlike any Jung type which uses Sx, Nx, Tx, and Fx), rather it splits them apart as necessary opposites. Furthermore it reinterprets the deeper meaning of those functions; Extravert and Introvert isn't merely a means of attention to the outer world vs. attention to the inner world in MBTI, but rather it's whether one is more people and social oriented or more private and solitary oriented. Feeling isn't about values and Thinking isn't about standards, rather it's literally feeling and thinking as an opposite. So when some thinks I'm such a type because I seem to be 'IN', then we're talking about a totally different system here, because in Jung, 'IN' is either INTJ, INFJ, INFP, and INTP. None of those types fit into the same function bracket.

That seems like a pretty sound analysis to me

That is fairly good argument I suppose.

Ne. Bouncy bouncy all over the place. Just like @Effboy says.

Wait, all my responses there were Ne? How? How where they "bouncy bouncy"?

6-Fi-Si(loop?). 7-Ne type. INFP.

You're placing far too much emphasis on JCF and Enneagram as being interconnected; that's not what I consider an accurate method to typing.

There are no 7 IxTJs.

Uh, no. But I don't think this thread is the place to get into such discussion (unless of course, you think that a 7 wing would be impossible for an IxTJ type. I could understand not seeing core 7 and Pi dominant as compatible, but saying that a certain wing isn't compatible is close minded IMAO.

Regarding the whole persona thing, it goes back to how the dominant function supposedly operates, particularly when it is a perceiving function. It is such a seemingly natural preference, that you'd have no way of noticing your tendencies in that area. This is because your means of observation has a bias toward those tendencies being normative, and consequently takes these tendencies for granted.

So what you're saying is that because I'm possible SI dominant, and because I'm accustomed to perceiving information only through reliable facts and data in a standard and expected sort of way, that that is actually working against me finding reliable truths in my endeavor to type myself/skewing the method by which I observe things?

The whole "trying too hard" observation comes from people noticing that it is a persona that you are wearing. You're trying to play a role, or fit within a particular archetype, as a means of assuaging those anxieties, since by doing so, you would have norms and expectations that you could judge the validity of those anxieties by. You need that internal checklist to serve as a steady foundation, and have heightened anxiety because things just aren't matching up. You try to keep fitting into a mask that just doesn't fit, instead of accepting what your body is telling you.

Oh, so I'm trying to fit myself into some type in order to make sense of my faults and insecurities, because the type offers an ordered and known explanation that I seek? Almost like the type is a scratch to my itch, in a sense? And that would suggest ISTJ?
 

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You're placing far too much emphasis on JCF and Enneagram as being interconnected; that's not what I consider an accurate method to typing.

And that is not what I consider as a valid argument. ;) The interconnection is quite obvious. Why would it be inaccurate?

Uh, no. But I don't think this thread is the place to get into such discussion (unless of course, you think that a 7 wing would be impossible for an IxTJ type. I could understand not seeing core 7 and Pi dominant as compatible, but saying that a certain wing isn't compatible is close minded IMAO.

Close-minded...? Why? Let's make this straightforward. Give me any counter-evidence. that is, cite at least one credible IxTJ with credibility of being wing 7. More specifically, 6w7.
 
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You are clearly trying too hard in this thread and many others since you decided you were INTJ. There is an unnatural gait to your posts when you are trying to showcase this type. It holds dissonance to the reading.

I also think that out of all types, INTJs are the most likely to be born with the innate knowledge that they are INTJs. I don't know how many of my INTJ friends I have tried getting to take the MBTI test only to have them respond with this put upon expression of "I know who I am, why do I need it confirmed?" The last thing I see being done is a public thread where external knowledge about their inner workings is going to be asked for. (And this isn't the first time you have created a thread like this. There are many type me threads, and one where you pretended it was your cousin but in actuality it was blazingly obvious that it was you.)

Most likely choice is that you are an NFP, probably very definite ENFP. I just realized you have dozens upon dozens of new threads started stating your personal opinions on topics.

I see ne-dom as most likely occurrance. INTJ isn't even in the same room as this idea or the same dimension.
 

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And that is not what I consider as a valid argument. ;) The interconnection is quite obvious. Why would it be inaccurate?

Because I don't believe that JCF and Ennagram are intrinsically connected; ergo any JCF can be paired with any Ennagram type.

Close-minded...? Why? Let's make this straightforward. Give me any counter-evidence. that is, cite at least one credible IxTJ with credibility of being wing 7. More specifically, 6w7.

Maybe 'close-minded' wasn't the right word to use, or perhaps it was a tad too strong to describe what I was trying to say.

As for credible IxTJ 7 or IxTJ Xw7, I know that there's a member on the forums (and PersonalityCafe) who goes by the name Stephen, of whom types ISTJ 6w7. As for more Pi dominant 7 types, I would need to go through some of my older type archives to find more examples which I may do later.

You are clearly trying too hard in this thread and many others since you decided you were INTJ. There is an unnatural gait to your posts when you are trying to showcase this type. It holds dissonance to the reading.

I haven't been aware of this change in my posts; do you mean that I'm trying to come off as to 'INTJ'-ish?

I also think that out of all types, INTJs are the most likely to be born with the innate knowledge that they are INTJs. I don't know how many of my INTJ friends I have tried getting to take the MBTI test only to have them respond with this put upon expression of "I know who I am, why do I need it confirmed?" The last thing I see being done is a public thread where external knowledge about their inner workings is going to be asked for. (And this isn't the first time you have created a thread like this. There are many type me threads, and one where you pretended it was your cousin but in actuality it was blazingly obvious that it was you.)

That may be a reason to consider Ne > Ni. I read in a thread on PersonalityNation where sinulatedworld mentioned that Ni types often don't share in ideas that they're confidant about, while Ne types often need external output to their ideas in order to find validity in them. I think by this point, yeah, INTJ is probably not a type to consider for myself at all.

Most likely choice is that you are an NFP, probably very definite ENFP. I just realized you have dozens upon dozens of new threads started stating your personal opinions on topics.

Actually I wouldn't rule out INFP either (only because I would sooner consider myself Te inferior as opposed to Si inferior due to my rejection or external structures when it pleases me, but this still requires more thinking and information before I can be fully certain).
 
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