Curse me with a type...

[Amargith]

first jag!!! you're not understanding that people pull all the data together...not just that bit!

and amar totally enfp 4w3 sx/so

Ha, thats another interesting tidbit

I only recently changed to 4 double wing sx-so. Before that I went for 4w5. Care to elaborate?

 

[Lady_X]

because you're like a gwen stefani style of enfp!! [MENTION=195]Jaguar[/MENTION]

4s without a 3 wing may well be subtle, understated personalities, tending towards being withdrawn and introverted. However, the 3 wing causes the 4 to want to stand out a little, often causing marked extroversion and assertiveness, and a boost in the 4's regularly low seratonin levels (see Scientific Proof for the Enneagram.). If the withdrawn 4 is subtle mauve and the assertive 3 is bright yellow, then the 4w3 is electric purple! (Or, hehe, death-black and blood-red, if that's better befitting of the nature of their identity fixation.)

 

[Amargith]

because you're like a gwen stefani style of enfp!! [MENTION=195]Jaguar[/MENTION]

I'll take that as a compliment! I thought she was listed as 4w5 though...and how does Jag fit into this?

 

[Lady_X]

I'll take that as a compliment! I thought she was listed as 4w5 though...and how does Jag fit into this?

she has a sultry thing going on...more so than 4 w5 imo

and jag just because he keeps making fun of people who say you're like so and so so you have to be that type!

 

[Lady_X]

don't you feel a lil dark blood red too?

 

[Amargith]

don't you feel a lil dark blood red too?

It is my fav color...together with Indigo

 

[Lady_X]

It is my fav color...together with Indigo

see?? i can feeeel that

 

[Amargith]

see?? i can feeeel that

Lol, ENFPs and their magic mindreading powahs!

Honestly, I figured that other ENFps would be the first to type me a different breed, as they often seem to not relate to the posts I make

As for the 4w thing...I recognise myself equally in both wings, though I really really prefer the w5's qualities over the w3 ones.

 

[Lady_X]

haha oh okay then! have it your way!! you non committal such n such!

and no definitely not...i see different sorts of enfps all the time...and i do think you are one.

i mean compare robin williams to steven tyler

 

[Scott N Denver]

I voted for ENFP. NFP seems undeniable and while I've noted both Fi and Ne from you, you've always seemed more Ne than Fi to me. And more E than I in general. Lady X made an interesting point about non-3 ENFP's, and I could totally see that relating to you.

 

[Jaguar]

how does Jag fit into this?

Because your posts are like my Aunt Gertrude's, making you ESTJ.

 

[Lady_X]

non 3 enfps? what do you mean?

 

[rav3n]

Introversion and extraversion are difficult to differentiate on the Internet. Extroverts have far more body language cues that aren't evident through cyberspace. Also obvious about extroverts in real life is their energy push, where introverts can be energy neutral or sink.

 

[Phoenix]

Introversion and extraversion are difficult to differentiate on the Internet. Extroverts have far more body language cues that aren't evident through cyberspace. Also obvious about extroverts in real life is their energy push, where introverts can be energy neutral or sink.

I would guess that that would change depending E-type and instinctual variants. I'm an ENTP 4w3 sx/sp ... I do have my moments of outward energy when I stop introspecting and finally act out. The kind of energy and push you're talking about is extremely sx-ish. An Ne dom with an "introverted" E-type .. especially sp's will not exhume the kind of energy output that's typically taken for granted in the MBTI world.

My SO is an ENFP 2w3, but she has a very strong sp/sx stacking, therefore she's not even half as "extroverted" as my 7w8 sx/so ENFP ex.

I have been wondering lately if [MENTION=5494]Amargith[/MENTION] may have a relatively stronger 3 wing than she wants to see in herself.

Given my understanding of three things:

1. 4 desire to be somewhat desiring of more attractive traits in others may be pushing her towards seeing more of the 4w5 than is really there

2. 4 longing to stand out from other 4s may be contributing to her desire to take on a 'balanced wing' as opposed to a dominant wing.

3. Finaly, I've noticed that 4's tend to type themselves based on the weaknesses of a type first before really looking at the strengths [especially if they're already had average levels], as 4's are typically motivated to think of themselves as inherently flawed. 4w5's are the less extroverted versions of 4w3's .. so I wonder if that was another motivation for [MENTION=5494]Amargith[/MENTION] to take the 4w5 when she did.

Edit: And I agree with her sx/so stacking .. I've recently been in touch with an INFJ 4w3 sx/so and she has way more energy than I do when it comes to staying in touch .. It's a moot point .. but I personally as an sx/sp veery rarely connect with a lot of people and socializing when there isn't someone I'm merged with around is a pain in the ass. I don't even want to leave the home if I know I'm going to be stuck in a place/group where I don't have a chance of merging with someone else.

 

[rav3n]

I do have my moments of outward energy when I stop introspecting and finally act out. The kind of energy and push you're talking about is extremely sx-ish. An Ne dom with an "introverted" E-type .. especially sp's will not exhume the kind of energy output that's typically taken for granted in the MBTI world.

Consider how you've stated this. 'when I stop introspecting and finally act out'. What does this mean? It appears to mean that when you finally decide to socialise with people. If you're not feeling social, of course you're not going to push energy to others.

That said, introverts even when feeling social, have to force out energy or tap it from others for short spells, albeit it can get overwhelming so they have to shut down after awhile. Introverts get sufficient dopamine rewards in their brains while contemplating their interests, that too much from externals, can overstimulate.

 

[Phoenix]

non 3 enfps? what do you mean?

Type 3 ENFP .. now that would be interesting. I think my ex was a 3-fixed ENFP ... and it manifested itself as added aggression to her 7 core and at unhealthy levels turned her into a status conscious, materialistic person filled with jealousy of other people's success.

 

[Phoenix]

Consider how you've stated this. 'when I stop introspecting and finally act out'. What does this mean? It appears to mean that when you finally decide to socialise with people. If you're not feeling social, of course you're not going to push energy to others.

Yes. That does describe it quite well. In my case, I've been a social recluse for well over a year and have lost touch with the external world for the most part indulging in primarily introverted activities which have begun to make me feel much more energized than social interaction. That said, even now when I am in the right mood, I can still take centre stage at a social gathering and expend a lot of energy. The difference between me and typical extroverts however is that even though I am extroverted [dominant Ne], I do get drained from social contact as time wears on and I need to retreat back into my home [sp - related] in order to re-energize myself.

 

[Amargith]

Because your posts are like my Aunt Gertrude's, making you ESTJ.

 

[Amargith]

I would guess that that would change depending E-type and instinctual variants. I'm an ENTP 4w3 sx/sp ... I do have my moments of outward energy when I stop introspecting and finally act out. The kind of energy and push you're talking about is extremely sx-ish. An Ne dom with an "introverted" E-type .. especially sp's will not exhume the kind of energy output that's typically taken for granted in the MBTI world.

My SO is an ENFP 2w3, but she has a very strong sp/sx stacking, therefore she's not even half as "extroverted" as my 7w8 sx/so ENFP ex.

I have been wondering lately if [MENTION=5494]Amargith[/MENTION] may have a relatively stronger 3 wing than she wants to see in herself.

Given my understanding of three things:

1. 4 desire to be somewhat desiring of more attractive traits in others may be pushing her towards seeing more of the 4w5 than is really there

2. 4 longing to stand out from other 4s may be contributing to her desire to take on a 'balanced wing' as opposed to a dominant wing.

3. Finaly, I've noticed that 4's tend to type themselves based on the weaknesses of a type first before really looking at the strengths [especially if they're already had average levels], as 4's are typically motivated to think of themselves as inherently flawed. 4w5's are the less extroverted versions of 4w3's .. so I wonder if that was another motivation for [MENTION=5494]Amargith[/MENTION] to take the 4w5 when she did.

Edit: And I agree with her sx/so stacking .. I've recently been in touch with an INFJ 4w3 sx/so and she has way more energy than I do when it comes to staying in touch .. It's a moot point .. but I personally as an sx/sp veery rarely connect with a lot of people and socializing when there isn't someone I'm merged with around is a pain in the ass. I don't even want to leave the home if I know I'm going to be stuck in a place/group where I don't have a chance of merging with someone else.

I gather knowledge and am afraid of acting in the world. I fear being incompetent, not knowledgable enough to handle what comes my way and so I refuse to act. I also struggle with staying authentic when I do try to be motivated by extrinsic incentives. I very much enjoy exploring intellectual subjects and have quite a reading addiction on all kinds of subjects. And I live in my head. IRL, I moved abroad a year ago, and have lived as a hermit since. I dont have a social life here, and enjoy my little cocoon at home, using only the internet for social interaction. I also do not feel the need to go and find a social life.

I cringe at the w3's darker sides, but the truth is that I dont fret about the w5 ones, though they do hold me back in life and frustrate me so. If I could tap in more in the w3 strengths, my life would be a lot easier. Im working on it though, as I do recognise that once I do step into a community, I enjoy putting on a performance, to connect with its members and I do enjoy the recognition I get once I contribute to that community, though it isnt my primary motivation. More like a bonus. I think this might have something with my stacking though: sx-so.

Tbh, Ive always felt though that my w5 tendencies really kick the part of me that enjoys my w3 tendencies, as it sees it as inauthentic, and plain selfish. At the same time though, I realize that I will have to tap into it, if I ever want to accomplish something in my life...

 

[Lady_X]

Type 3 ENFP .. now that would be interesting. I think my ex was a 3-fixed ENFP ... and it manifested itself as added aggression to her 7 core and at unhealthy levels turned her into a status conscious, materialistic person filled with jealousy of other people's success.

I don't really know what you're talking about. I mean... Someone quoted me saying something about non 3 enfps and I was just asking what they're talking about.

I totally think amar is a type 4. I view the 4 w3 as more sultry and and sort of flamboyant or dramatic. She doesn't seem very w 5 to me but maybe it's more apparent irl. Idk.