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    Quote Originally Posted by AffirmitiveAnxiety View Post
    I dont fit the type, the type fits me.
    Precisely.

    Holy smokes, you look and sound exactly like my ISFJ brother. I'm not kidding. I know that doesn't prove anything, but it's true, for what it's worth. He's awesome by the way-- so you'd be in great company.

    I'm a sensor who also started out very wobbly on the N/S divide, and looking back I just think it's funny. I love N types but I wouldn't trade in my S for anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lith View Post
    Precisely.

    Holy smokes, you look and sound exactly like my ISFJ brother. I'm not kidding. I know that doesn't prove anything, but it's true, for what it's worth. He's awesome by the way-- so you'd be in great company.

    I'm a sensor who also started out very wobbly on the N/S divide, and looking back I just think it's funny. I love N types but I wouldn't trade in my S for anything.
    Interesting, thanks for the information, perhaps I should have added a poll? Seems ISFJ for the most part .

    *EDIT* Ok added one.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    More information...although so far ISFJ appears to be winning the race....the tortoise didnt stand a chance...he's cooking in the pot.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Hmm im thinking ESFJ more and more now.

    There is, afterall, no reason why a sensing type cannot enjoy consideration of conceptual idea right? It's only a preference....doesnt mean it cannot be my preference.

    Ive realised that there is a problem with how sensing is intepreted. Whenever I read Jung I get the impression that he intended sensing types and functions to be understood as having conceptual and cognitive interpretations of their senses.

    Rather than the rampant literalism that appears to have taken over lately, which seems to believe that sensing means: Uses the 5 senses literally like a beast, (ironic considering human beings ARE nothing but beasts). But all it really means is that sensing types are more likely to trust information of their senses over intuition, but not in the sense of literally sniffing the air or listening to the wind.

    They want information to be proven rather than assumed, if anything sensing, (or at least introverted sensing), is more akin to the empericism of science in that it constantly checks and cross compares to make sure the information is correct. However it does not mean they cannot develop a capacity for intuitive understandings.

    Also I have seen no evidence, beyond blind assumptions, that there are more sensing types than intuitors. At least besides the terribly flimsy evidence put forth by Isabel Briggs-Myers and her mother in Gifts Differing. I wouldnt be the least bit surprised to find out that the percentage numbers of the stupid and frustrating people in our lives were a 50/50 split between sensing and intuition. Since neither has a monopoly on intelligence or stupidity and no experiment or example has ever proven that this theory has a real grounding in reality. Essentially this is a belief system with no evidence beyond the heuristic.

    I also hear terms like "down to earth" and "common sense" thrown around a great deal, by all people from all different backgrounds and within this theory as well, especially concerning sensing types. But I dont know what those terms mean....they are completely subjective and have no standard beyond what a group chooses to agree on for them.

    The common usage of the terms towards physical solutions and problems most likely has more to do with the societal structures and perceptions of a certain environment. Physical work and solutions = for those who are not intellectual. Anything else is not down to earth or common sense because it involves a conceptualisation of ideas and theories which have no practical application, but why should it be that there is no common sense in a theory? Or in an idea?

    There isn't as far as I can tell. It stands to reason that over time such terms have been morphed and adopted by the various pressures of society past and present. Afterall there has always been a snobbery with intellectualism, if you are looked down upon for being physically orientated, most likely because of your environment and circumstances rather than any inherent preference, then you are likely to want to fight back and proclaim the virtues of your position in defence of yourself.

    This has more to do with class warfare, (or rather economical warfare), than any typological inherency.

    There are lots of funny systems of nonsense we concoct for ourselves, aren't there?

    *Sits back and waits for the 'YOU'RE WRONG' brigade to get here*
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    I was going to say that I thought you were some sort of Ne-dom, but I see you already have ENTP listed. It looks like you're contemplating ESFJ also, so not sure if serious. Are you more confident in your enneagram typing though? For what it's worth, I've seen a quite a few who identify as e6 online express difficulty determining their mbti. I've read the descriptions for e6 and I think it really suits Ne types - the overactive mind that sees all possibilities (to its detriment at times). I want to know why you chose an Fe-dominant type though. In your post above, you talked about how sensors are misunderstood essentially, but you never got into the functions of an ESFJ and how you see them in yourself.

    -Member of the 'YOU'RE WRONG' brigade

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    I was going to say that I thought you were some sort of Ne-dom, but I see you already have ENTP listed. It looks like you're contemplating ESFJ also, so not sure if serious. Are you more confident in your enneagram typing though? For what it's worth, I've seen a quite a few who identify as e6 online express difficulty determining their mbti. I've read the descriptions for e6 and I think it really suits Ne types - the overactive mind that sees all possibilities (to its detriment at times). I want to know why you chose an Fe-dominant type though. In your post above, you talked about how sensors are misunderstood essentially, but you never got into the functions of an ESFJ and how you see them in yourself.

    -Member of the 'YOU'RE WRONG' brigade
    Hah this is true, especially the part about E6. I was more explaining an angle on interpretations of both Jung and MBTI than my type. ENTP is only there to quell the, (now), rather large numbers of people who claim it to be my type.

    I suppose functionally I dont really notice any function to a great degree, not because I have no knowledge of them, but because I see all of their usages at once; although after this next little bit you might disagree. Ill explain my day as it might normally happen functionally though:

    I wake up.

    I think: What have I planned that needs doing today, (Te), and how do I want to do it,(Fi).

    I was asked by X to do this today, ill do it because I know she likes that done and I would feel guilty if I didn't because I feel it is my obligation. (Fe)

    As I walk out the room to get breakfast I notice my warhammer and writing pad by the door. A mere glance throws out two separate ideas, one is about how interesting it is how we create worlds in our minds and use these to bring archetype into reality as a functional physical object, this is an idea id been following for some time actually with a bit of obsession, (Ni). The other idea is that it would be great to do a Benny Hill parody with goblins chasing squigs using certain warhammer models, (Ne).

    As I go into the kitchen and pour out my cereal, I notice it is the cereal I always choose because I am familiar with the taste and prefer it over the others. (Si + Fi).

    One of our cats is watching from the sideboard, she jumps off and knocks a ball to the floor. I watch it bounce towards the lounge door and disappear, I also turn my head again to watch a sudden fly that has flown in through the kitchen window and is attracting my attention with it's buzzing. (Se)

    I sit down to eat my breakfast, I turn on the tv and watch a random program. This time it appears to be some kind of daft reality show, I dont stay on the channel long, but I do stay on long enough to see a fat woman who reminds me of churchill, (Si + Ne), give her argument as to what policies she supports and why. I notice several inconsistancies within the structure of her argument and in my mind they are chalked up as red lines, I could easily have given a rebuttal on the spot as to how her statements did not hold up and often contradicted each other. (Ti)

    So that's basically it, obviously I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if this is somehow innacurate to some peoples interpretations of the functions. But we need more objective agreement on their definitions, so a little disagreement would be good so as to break through to the agreement.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    Is it possible ive been confusing E6 anxiety with Fe when it comes to caring what others think?

    I often carry a lot of apprehension around when it comes to new situations and people, this is obviously common for many, however this realisation was one ive considered for a long time now, but dismissed because I wasn't fully certain of it.

    I say this because even though I often get intense pangs of caring what others think, I tend to override it because it is not conducive to individual progress, but the fact that it remains there as a natural and instinctual, internalised reaction made me wonder if it was to do with Fe, but also there was the possibility of E6 as well.
    'One of (Lucas) Cranach's masterpieces, discussed by (Joseph) Koerner, is in it's self-referentiality the perfect expression of left-hemisphere emptiness and a precursor of post-modernism. There is no longer anything to point to beyond, nothing Other, so it points pointlessly to itself.' - Iain McGilChrist

    Suppose a tree fell down, Pooh, when we were underneath it?"
    "Suppose it didn't," said Pooh, after careful thought.
    Piglet was comforted by this.
    - A.A. Milne.

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    I can't believe that this thread has over 400 views yet only 3 people voted. This is madness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    I can't believe that this thread has over 400 views yet only 3 people voted. This is madness!

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    @wolfy harhar very funny.

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