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    Quote Originally Posted by kanye west View Post
    i'm too lazy to fill out a form, because every time i do so i end up realizing that i'm not the most truthful when answering it for reasons unknown so i'll just try to describe myself in each dichotomy!!!!! i'm basically xxxx at the moment!

    I vs E

    • i don't get tired after socializing, but i rarely ever socialize anyway, and the only time i do talk to people is at school, and with the same four people at that.
      Introverted - not sure which just yet.
    • i don't usually care about companionship, but i'd rather not sit alone only because i'm a little self-conscious at looking lonely.
      Not Fe
    • i almost never start conversations, unless it's with my closest *three* friends lmao, so most of my friendships die after a while
      Introverted
    • i can talk endlessly if it's about something i'm interested in, but i sometimes can barely think of what to say if it's about other people's personal matters or stupid stories about their siblings etc etc
      These are more concrete subjects of conversation, so your lack of interest could indicate iNtuition. Then again, these conversations are pretty unexciting for anyone who isn't the person talking, so what does capture your attention?
      You're also pretty blunt, which could mean Fi/Te, or that their stories really are stupid.


    S vs N
    • i'm don't feel very n-ish, mostly because i don't talk/type with symbols. i sometimes use analogies but they're pretty stupid so idk
      Not really relevant. You don't have to be an N to use symbols/analogies. And you don't have to be good at them to not be an S.
    • i'm super bad with details and my *surroundings* i've gone through days where i've worn something backwards and not realized for hours on end
      Se tends to be tuned into the physical world around them, so you can make an argument for lack of Se, especially in light of the other traits you listed below.
    • my memory is okay (does this have to do with sensory stuff????? w/e) i can usually remember if someone told me something about themselves years ago, but i sometimes can't remember what i wore the day before or what i ate
      Sounds a lot like me, and I use Si, so I think that could be a trait. The way you presented this point is also in a way that I would have done it, too. Not the most empirical deduction that could be made, but it could mean something.
    • i look forward to the future and think about the future often, but i'm REALLY lazy and probably have self-control issues so i just sit on the internet instead of actually working towards the future
      Definitely P. If you're introverted, too, we've got IxxP. You also show more evidence for Si than Se, so now we're down to INxP.
    • if i put enough effort into it, i can sometimes find symbols and understand the hidden meaning in films. it doesn't come naturally though, and takes more effort than i'm willing to give for a bad indie film on netflix
      Not really relevant.
    • probably doesn't relate to sensing vs intuiting as much, but i'm awful at sports, except for handball, i think i liked playing handball during elementary school. i have a hard time watching it too except for tennis and sports that have to do with nets ahahah
      Yeah, I've seen Ns and Ss both excel at sports.
    • i think i'm a sensor that has no good sensor traits? is that possible? a lot of humiliating memories haunt me though, and basically anything will trigger them, so is that signs of Si?
      Yes, Si.


    T vs F
    • i sometimes cry at really stupid things, like at jin and sun near the lost finale, and some other media-related things
    • idk if this has to do with anything but i think i might've gotten more emotional as i've aged (which isn't much considering i'm sixteen)
    • i can't say if i put my emotions into my decisions, mostly because i haven't made any big decisions in my life.
    • i don't really care about the emotions of other people, and i rarely ask people how they're doing unless other people make a big deal out of it so i'll feel a little obliged to ~fit in~
      Once again, lack of Fe. And also a prevalent desire to fit in? This is a common theme with you, lol, and it reminds me of my more cerebral INFP friend. He's pretty cynical, but, interestingly, is a lot more conscious about how he fits in than I am.
    • i have commitment issues. if someone doesn't like me more than i like them then our relationship doesn't work, and if that person likes me more than a normal person likes a friend, then our relationship definitely can't work. i get freaked out if people cling on to me, and i'll start acting rude just to get them to back off. socializing on the internet is much easier than real life socializing, because if i get sick of a person on the internet i can block them and never have to face them again lol
      Protective Fi? Needs a lot of personal space, but equally finds the thought of liking someone more than they like you highly unfavorable. Pretty guarded.
    • if i cared about mbti a year ago, i could talk a lot more about being blunt and believing in ~honesty~ but i've started to hold back my opinion a little more
      Fi desire for authenticity?


    P vs J
    • i sometimes plan things, but i rarely go through with the plan because i'm either a. too lazy or b. too apathetic
    • i'm a big procratinator. a lot of the time i don't start most of my homework/projects until the night it's due, or sometimes the morning if i feel like telling myself that i have eight hours until it's actually due.
      Yeah, basically P.


    idk if i were to compare myself to someone, it'd be oreki from hyouka. i'd probably copy his description on mal if i were too lazy to write my own. okay wait i lied again omfg i reread oreki's description thing on mal and it says that he finishes all of his work no matter what but i've completely like ~seven~ math assignments during high school.
    So it seems to me like they're INFP, based on the points I've provided above, and my experience with similar INFPs.

    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    See, if you are a girl that kind of changes things because certain behaviors are typical and conditioned for certain genders. Girls are conditioned to be more social, and to be interested in the less abstract and more human subjects in school. Your kind of antisocial and relationship related detachment issues in a guy might be more expected- but in a girl suggest more thinking tendencies to me. Who knows, though? You could just be antisocial and depressed, and this is dulling your Fi. My point on these threads, since I think I've been mistyped by people lots of times, is to try to tell people they can never make assumptions, and to use critical thinking when assessing people.
    It doesn't change much for me. Then again, I kind of figured Kanye was a girl just by the way he/she typed, purely with the use of '~'s and '*'s and other silly ways to replace italics, as well as the fact that she would even obligate her/himself to care about others' feelings.

    When I was in high school, the thought rarely occurred to me, much less for people outside of my core friend group (making me even less interested), and I'm INTP. The desire to at least engage themselves in that kind of situation, while not totally detaching themselves, is an indication of the fact that it's something that they don't personally enjoy. They do, however, see it as important enough to dedicate some time to the matter, for a greater reason or another that affects how they view themselves, and what that means to their core values or personal desires. Whatever those are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Girls are conditioned to be more social, and to be interested in the less abstract and more human subjects in school.
    whenever i hear that, the girls are conditioned towards the humanities rather then science and engineering, i find it very difficult to not imagine two parents catch their 5yo's doing subtraction and saying "bad girl! that's a boy thing..."

    i think it's more likely to be the fact there are more female feelers then thinkers (population wise), carried a step further on gender biases identity seeking and childhood culture, a.k.a. if most females are feelers so will most of the role models and likely social clubs growing up will be, thus encouraging you to 'act as a feeler', which in turn increases the feeler-like behavior and language of the role models and social clubs available for the next generation, and also feed's into mistyping and increases the apparent population difference, etc...

    the point is, if your an T female or an NF male, your in an unrecognized minority, and the same social dynamics apply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mane View Post
    whenever i hear that, the girls are conditioned towards the humanities rather then science and engineering, i find it very difficult to not imagine two parents catch their 5yo's doing subtraction and saying "bad girl! that's a boy thing..."

    i think it's more likely to be the fact there are more female feelers then thinkers (population wise), carried a step further on gender biases identity seeking and childhood culture, a.k.a. if most females are feelers so will most of the role models and likely social clubs growing up will be, thus encouraging you to 'act as a feeler', which in turn increases the feeler-like behavior and language of the role models and social clubs available for the next generation, and also feed's into mistyping and increases the apparent population difference, etc...

    the point is, if your an T female or an NF male, your in an unrecognized minority, and the same social dynamics apply.
    I agree with this. For example, at work it is really important for us to smile and be friendly with the customers, and make them feel comfortable. Yet I see male servers act more "business like" and no one thinks anything of it. If a woman acts this way it's considered rude. This Fe type behavior is just expected of us.

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