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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    If we were to type by functions, I would say INTJ Ni-Fi Loop. If we were to type by the tritype theory, I would say INTP/INFP/INTJ. If we were to type by type description, I would say INFJ. So I don't know lol.
    Interesting. I won't argue that this doesn't make sense. I could see INFJ; however, in my personal research I discounted it because I am very different from the one INFJ I know in several ways:
    -She is an extreme planner and organizer. She plans out her specific goals and much of her personal calendar way in advance, and organizes all sorts of events for the pagan community. I like to have a loose sort of plan and then define it when the time comes, and I don't much like to be responsible for other people.
    -She is very concerned about proper behavior and what other people think of her. (Fe I am thinking.) I care about these things to some degree, I just consider myself my own authority ultimately, and think my opinion of what is appropriate is just as good as anyone else's.
    -She is very concerned about what is ethical. I am too, but I am much less judgmental than she is. I think there is more than one way of looking at things, and often value judgments have nothing to do with it.
    -She is much more religious than I am. I am spiritual but not religious. I say I connect with the goddess and god energy, but this is not really in a theistic sense. I think of it more in terms of archetypes.
    -She is far more emotional than I am. I don't know if this is an INFJ thing or not, but it is a significant difference between us.
    -She is much more sensitive than I am. She often doesn't take jokes very well and gets offended a lot. I like jokes, and don't really get offended at all. The only time I really get offended is if I feel like someone is insulting my intelligence and reasoning ability (and yeah I'm working on that).

    Those are the most notable differences. It could be that she is simply an extreme case. Not saying your opinion doesn't make sense, just once again putting information and ideas out there to help type people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I've seen so many INFJ/INTP combinations that I should have thought of it long before this. As far as functions go, I'm seeing more Ni now that I think about it. I just don't like to. But I have to ask what it is about the INTP description that seems so accurate? For example,

    "The most important thing to me is to know and understand reality and the ultimate truth of the universe (both objective and subjective)" ("INTPs value knowledge above all else"). But that's only a small part of the description compared to all this:

    "Externally I value freedom, harmony, truth, responsibility, happiness, independence, collective empowerment, thinking outside the box, being openminded, seeing interconnectedness, having a balanced ego, compassion within reason, and honesty (both with others and yourself), among other things. I value practicality and applicability, as well as imagination and idealism and pointless mental activity. For me personally I value health and fitness, competence, being extraordinary, beauty, pleasure, logic, humor, being stable and sane, knowing myself, independence, maturity, and constant commitment to being my best." "My ethics have evolved over the years" ("INFJs place great importance on havings things orderly and systematic in their outer world. They put a lot of energy into identifying the best system for getting things done, and constantly define and re-define the priorities in their lives." "They have high expectations of their children, and push them to be the best that they can be.") Some of that sounds Fi and some Ni.

    So which type is more prominent?
    I think the best way to do this is to put two descriptions up and highlight the parts that fit me and underline the ones that don't, along with elaboration and explanation. (If people want to take the time to read it.) I was intending to anyway, with my goal of helping type INXP's; so I guess the time has come. But not tonight haha. In the near future. I'm also going to "blow up" my own OP and analyze it, to put my own opinion out there. I just wanted some discussion unbiased by my thoughts before I did.

    *And INFJ doesn't use Fi; I know it seems like they should, but it's Ni Fe Ti Se.

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    There isn't a lot that you've said that I would disagree with, and I'm pretty decisively an INFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    I think the best way to do this is to put two descriptions up and highlight the parts that fit me and underline the ones that don't, along with elaboration and explanation. (If people want to take the time to read it.) I was intending to anyway, with my goal of helping type INXP's; so I guess the time has come. But not tonight haha. In the near future.

    *And INFJ doesn't use Fi; I know it seems like they should, but it's Ni Fe Ti Se.
    I've seen the side-by-side type comparisons done before but it can be done wrong. The most grievous error was the tendency to highlight or cross out bits and pieces of entire sentences or even single words pulled out of context. I would highly recommend considering entire sentences.

    I wouldn't say that any particular INFJ (or other type) DOESN'T use a certain function, particularly when it comes to the shadow functions such as Fi in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raine_lynn View Post
    There isn't a lot that you've said that I would disagree with, and I'm pretty decisively an INFP.
    "Pretty decisively" is such a P statement!
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    Quote Originally Posted by raine_lynn View Post
    There isn't a lot that you've said that I would disagree with, and I'm pretty decisively an INFP.
    Orly? jk

    Maybe it would be helpful to compare ourselves.

    What are the main reasons you are sure you are INFP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I've seen the side-by-side type comparisons done before but it can be done wrong. The most grievous error was the tendency to highlight or cross out bits and pieces of entire sentences or even single words pulled out of context. I would highly recommend considering entire sentences.
    Yeah good point, I'll make sure to do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    I wouldn't say that any particular INFJ (or other type) DOESN'T use a certain function, particularly when it comes to the shadow functions such as Fi in this case.
    I totally agree; I believe everyone uses the 8 functions. I was just referring to the main ones in case you hadn't read that far into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    The only point of incompatibility is if someone uses subjective feelings to extrapolate universal truths which are in fact not objectively true. They are only true from that particular personal perspective. I see an Fi based value system to be vulnerable to this. So I judge myself to use Fe which is more collective and includes multiple perspectives, and is compatible with universal truths which transcend all personal perspectives. (Fe+Ti)
    I don't always base my Fi values on my own feelings. Sometimes it's more.... well, I often identify my strongest values with my intuition (for a while I thought I was an Ni-dom)... my "universal truths" are obtained via my intuition (and it's what I tend to describe in philosophic terms rather than in personally meaningful ways). I very much value objectivity and knowledge, knowing the nature of reality, and understanding humanity.
    I might just be drunkenly rambling, now, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenfairy View Post
    Yeah good point, I'll make sure to do that.

    I totally agree; I believe everyone uses the 8 functions. I was just referring to the main ones in case you hadn't read that far into it.
    I don't know what I use Fe inferior for, if at all. But if my Si is a strong tertiary, then it uses a judging function to act as a kind of auxiliary, in this case, shadow Te. So my second MBTI type is ISTJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raine_lynn View Post
    I don't always base my Fi values on my own feelings. Sometimes it's more.... well, I often identify my strongest values with my intuition (for a while I thought I was an Ni-dom)... my "universal truths" are obtained via my intuition (and it's what I tend to describe in philosophic terms rather than in personally meaningful ways). I very much value objectivity and knowledge, knowing the nature of reality, and understanding humanity.
    I might just be drunkenly rambling, now, though.
    Lol.
    Well, this way of knowing truth I would say is pretty universal. I think the best way to know any truth is through one's intuition. I mean, I believe knowledge of ultimate truth is attainable by anyone, and intuition is kind of a combination of all the senses and functions combined. It is a balance of unconscious and conscious knowledge. I guess the complication and individual differences arise when either people let a function get out of balance and shut out the intuition (or only take in information to feed Ti or Fi), or through the weight they give to the particular CF's.

    So I guess the question is how does an INFP value system differ from an INTP value system? I thought I understood it pretty well, but I'm going to have to think about it some more because evidently it's not as simple as I thought.

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