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    Default Please, some Hints for an INxx on his Type

    Now, before I get all locked up in some type, if anybody could help me in finding a type that would fit me, it would be appreciated. I believe myself to be an INxx of some kind, most likely an INTP. I'll try to paint a picture of how I believe I appear, was, and am like, hoping it doesn't seem too random.

    Me, and People
    As a school child, I was a loner until about the age of 13-14, when I got a bit more expressive than I had been before, and started gaining a small group of friends, with whom I still spend a good deal of time with at the age of 24. As time passes, the group slowly grows bigger.

    In this group, I often have an advisor-like role. I think that by them I'm considered independent, intelligent and open. I don't impose my views on people, but try to enable them to solve problems and conflicts themselves by giving hints, when they aren't just in need of someone to listen. That hasn't happen very often for some time, though.

    As we don't meet up that often, we decided to make a little club, which meets up every 3 months, and on christmas and easter. The 'chairman' who coordinates it together with two others ('the board') has tried to convince me to 'run' as 'deputy chairman', and I've consistently said no. Firstly one of my younger brothers wants it now that it's free and he'll do fine, secondly it seems overly formal, thirdly I don't want to be some authority figure.

    Me, and my Interest
    Anyway. Before I reached the 13-age mark that I mentioned above, I was quite content to live in my own world, and for the most part didn't identify with the other children I was surrounded by.

    Most of my interest were quite introverted, and still are; I like writing and reading, and especially wrote a lot in my first years of school, playing chess, which I didn't have the necessary patience for however, and playing games like Civilization and (traditional western) RPGs. When I didn't, from time to time, play soccer.

    In high school I was in a band, were I sung and enjoyed it a lot. It was a possibility to express myself in a way that didn't seem... inappropriate. I would like to do it again, someday, and have discussed it quite a bit with my younger brother, who plays bass.

    I've also, in the last few years, spend a good amount of time in politics in a youth organisation. I enjoy discussions about ideas on how to look at the world and my country, how we wish it to be in the future, why and how we'll get there.

    Me, and Academics
    I performed well in school in most subjects. My teachers in my first language-subject considered me very imaginative, my math teachers in the latter grades said that I had a tendency to forget making the steps I made when solving assignments completely clear, but they didn't consider it much of a problem.

    I usually perform well at written exams and horribly at oral exams, where I have to think much more on the fly than I'm good at and... it's an awkward situation all in all. My teachers thought I was much more independent in class than at exams. At high school I turned into a bit of a slacker, and have never really returned to my younger selfs more structured way of studying.

    I studied economics and got a bachelor's degree, and continued studying it a bit after that, but should have quit sooner as the focus was far more on maths than I could enjoy; it's not that it's that difficult, it's just very uninteresting. My bachelor's degree can't be used for anything in this country, so I'll study something else (going to school is luckily free here and I'll hopefully be able to get some credit), and aim for some kind of teaching position, where I can hopefully help develop the hearts and minds of young people.

    My questions
    I'm sorry if it got a bit long-winded. Is this enough to give you some idea, or was it mostly useless info? What type would you believe me to be, and why?

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    You seem introverted and intuitive, but there's not very much more in your bio directly related to type. There is a good questionnaire on this site.
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    You could be a "behind-the-scenes Rational."



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
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    I think you're looking at this:

    "In this group, I often have an advisor-like role. I think that by them I'm considered independent, intelligent and open. I don't impose my views on people, but try to enable them to solve problems and conflicts themselves by giving hints, when they aren't just in need of someone to listen. That hasn't happen very often for some time, though."

    "Open" is a good clue, among others. "How we wish it to be in the future" (lower down) is an N statement. Talking about the future of humanity in an idealistic sense is an NF feature.

    I'll say INFP, Behind-the-scenes Idealist.
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    Personally, all I really needed to see was this:
    Quote Originally Posted by HowWhyWhen View Post
    Now, before I get all locked up in some type,

    And the rest just sort of confirmed it. I've noticed that the people who view type like some impersonal prison infringing on their Unique Snowflake Identity tend to be Te-inferior/tert. And, like you said, seems like a behind the scenes, one-on-one interpersonal shepherd with rather social interests. For N vs S, as always, it's easy to go either way.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Personally, all I really needed to see was this:



    And the rest just sort of confirmed it. I've noticed that the people who view type like some impersonal prison infringing on their Unique Snowflake Identity tend to be Te-inferior/tert. And, like you said, seems like a behind the scenes, one-on-one interpersonal shepherd with rather social interests. For N vs S, as always, it's easy to go either way.
    Agreed, and I'm not denying that there are a lot of little things indirectly related to type in that description.

    For example, consider this: "I had a tendency to forget making the steps I made when solving assignments completely clear, but they didn't consider it much of a problem."

    The first part relates to Intuition. These types can see through a math problem to its solution without taking the intermediate steps toward solving it.

    Now in my day, MY ALGEBRA TEACHER WOULD HAVE HAD A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THIS. Not solving the problems step-by-step would reduce my score on the problem by 1/2. So even if I got them all correct, I would have received only half a grade by using intuitive problem-solving methods.

    "But they didn't consider it much of a problem." Really? Is this a commentary on today's teaching methods? How is it related to type?

    The real problem is determining which parts of a bio are type-related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Personally, all I really needed to see was this:
    And the rest just sort of confirmed it. I've noticed that the people who view type like some impersonal prison infringing on their Unique Snowflake Identity tend to be Te-inferior/tert.
    That seems like a bit of an overstatement. It was meant as an attempt to use humor to describe that I am uncertain about how to view each of the types and in what way I fit in them; that I would like to try to avoid any unnecessary presumptions.

    And, like you said, seems like a behind the scenes, one-on-one interpersonal shepherd with rather social interests. For N vs S, as always, it's easy to go either way.
    That seems to be how I described myself when I read it again. I have noticed that the roles I 'play' can be quite different from one situation to the next, and in different stages in my life I have been considered quite cold by others. Anyway, your conclusion would be an Fi-dom? An ISFP or INFP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    "But they didn't consider it much of a problem." Really? Is this a commentary on today's teaching methods? How is it related to type?
    Should probably have put a 'usually' inside that quote; the culture I was schooled in was not very test heavy, and of course I didn't get all the points for those parts of the assignments. Not quite as hard as half, though.

    The real problem is determining which parts of a bio are type-related.
    This hits the nail on the head. My problem is that it's not possible for me to look at myself or look at the way I think from the outside. Writing this didn't really get away from that problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mal+ View Post
    Agreed, and I'm not denying that there are a lot of little things indirectly related to type in that description.

    For example, consider this: "I had a tendency to forget making the steps I made when solving assignments completely clear, but they didn't consider it much of a problem."

    The first part relates to Intuition. These types can see through a math problem to its solution without taking the intermediate steps toward solving it.
    Eh...part of this is just intelligence. I don't see this as N-signaling as much as it could simply be Te-weakness.

    Sensation is unfairly assumed to be rigid and detail oriented which can be extremely inaccurate when trying to describe SPs, as "open" is precisely what I'd describe any SP to be. So it's very easy to see an "open" style and assume N, when that's not guaranteed. I can easily point to the poster's enjoyment of music and band as pure expression to be indicative of SP "performer/artisan" styles, but I don't think that's responsible typing at all, and just cherry picking.



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    Quote Originally Posted by JocktheMotie View Post
    Eh...part of this is just intelligence. I don't see this as N-signaling as much as it could simply be Te-weakness.

    Sensation is unfairly assumed to be rigid and detail oriented which can be extremely innacurate when trying to describe SPs, as "open" is precisely what I'd describe any SP to be. So it's very easy to see an "open" style and assume N, when that's not guaranteed. I can easily point to the poster's enjoyment of music and band as pure expression to be indicative of SP "performer/artisan" styles, but I don't think that's responsible typing at all, and just cherry picking.
    Actually, I assumed that "open" was perceiving. But I agree about SP, they're not all like that. My ISFP wife isn't like that.
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